The Economy means I need an A5 alternative... help

[-Audi_tuning-]

I cant afford to get this thing with the stocks down like this and with the awsome depreciation this whole thing has done to my car... Im gunna step down at A4 or A3... I know, Sucks!.... should I step down to the a3 and have it for three years, till im out of college or get an a4 for two years... I know why lease? cause its whats in my budget for now and I like a new car all the time....my thoughst about this whole thing:

[SupraBlur]

I cant afford to get this thing with the stocks down like this and with the awsome depreciation this whole thing has done to my car... Im gunna step down at A4 or A3... I know, Sucks!.... should I step down to the a3 and have it for three years, till im out of college or get an a4 for two years... I know why lease? cause its whats in my budget for now and I like a new car all the time....my thoughst about this whole thing:

Bimmer 328 or Infiniti G37 coupe.

[khmerguy978]

my a4 was 40g's and that was just the Prestige package. how much was the a5 you were looking at gonna run you?

[jonmiles]

Bimmer 328 or Infiniti G37 coupe.

Gay and Gayer.



Stop whining and buy the A5. The economy will rebound, and the cars have shown almost no depreciation in the year that they have been out. Don't be retarded

[SupraBlur]

Gay and Gayer.



Stop whining and buy the A5. The economy will rebound, and the cars have shown almost no depreciation in the year that they have been out. Don't be retarded

LOL I was just trying to give him cheaper alternatives that are at least in the same genre of car. The a3 and a4 are way off, other than being from the same make.

[-Audi_tuning-]

k im involved in the community im not changing brands i would just change cars... and as for whining, im also a college student and dont have the income to step up the hit my car has taken on depreciation.... idk what im gunna do.... guess ill have to wait and see...

[Anthony]

What does the stock market have to do with your monthly income and monthly car budget?

If you're going to lease, then the A5 hasn't ever really been a great option for you. Lease rates are much better on the A3 and A4. Although, the A5 is supposed to start leasing better in the coming months.

[JMRQuattro]

Ok so i'm just curious how you have an 03 a4, a 97 boxster, and an 06 Cayenne to start with if you're a college student? The other thing i'm wondering is why do you feel the need to have ANOTHER car on top of that when you already have 3? I don't know about you but i'm struggling to figure out how a college student affords all of that. I'm a college student and i can barely afford 1 car without any payments. Basically just gas and insurance and some mods here and there.

[Borg54]

I had an A3 for a long time and LOVED it. i didn't like the front wheel drive at all but the all wheel drive version would have been the perfect car.

I would not have any problem jumping back into an A3 if i needed too.

[gadumah]

I hate to sound like an old fart but if you're really just a college student you need to focus on your studies and NOT get yourself into debt right when you're starting your career. As nice as it is driving a car like an A5 it's not worth getting your self into financial trouble.

If you really wanted a good cheaper lease I'd think about taking over a lease from someone else. There are many sites out there with thousands of car leases ready to be taken over.

BTW, I'm only in my late 20's so no old guy jokes please

[MTLA4]

Ok so i'm just curious how you have an 03 a4, a 97 boxster, and an 06 Cayenne to start with if you're a college student? The other thing i'm wondering is why do you feel the need to have ANOTHER car on top of that when you already have 3? I don't know about you but i'm struggling to figure out how a college student affords all of that. I'm a college student and i can barely afford 1 car without any payments. Basically just gas and insurance and some mods here and there.

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if their are you parents car

[ShadyJC]

If the swings in the economy are affecting whether you should be buying ANY particular car, then you probably can't afford it in the first place.

[SuperA4Turbo]

Ok so i'm just curious how you have an 03 a4, a 97 boxster, and an 06 Cayenne to start with if you're a college student? The other thing i'm wondering is why do you feel the need to have ANOTHER car on top of that when you already have 3? I don't know about you but i'm struggling to figure out how a college student affords all of that. I'm a college student and i can barely afford 1 car without any payments. Basically just gas and insurance and some mods here and there.

The Boxster is his fathers car and the Cayenne he no longer owns due to practicality and car payments. Yes I know him.

[-Audi_tuning-]

If the swings in the economy are affecting whether you should be buying ANY particular car, then you probably can't afford it in the first place.

yea it was kinda a stretch... but was feasable until the depreciation on my car because of the economy tanking kicked in...

[-Audi_tuning-]

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if their are you parents car

cool, I pay for my own shit, took a semester off from college, and started my own business... I think that accounts for my cars.... and for the future, your on an audi forum, half the kids I kno got handed keys, some of the biggest audi tuners live with their parents and depend on them even though their 30...soo my advice is stop hatin cause life isnt fair, i worked damn hard for my stuff but I dont hate on those who struck gold just by being born, their luckey....and if you dont like it then you should find a brand of car where the mummy daddy crowd wont be...

[-Audi_tuning-]

Ok so i'm just curious how you have an 03 a4, a 97 boxster, and an 06 Cayenne to start with if you're a college student? The other thing i'm wondering is why do you feel the need to have ANOTHER car on top of that when you already have 3? I don't know about you but i'm struggling to figure out how a college student affords all of that. I'm a college student and i can barely afford 1 car without any payments. Basically just gas and insurance and some mods here and there.

ummm the cayenne I just sold, the A4 Im selling, the boxster is only half mine, and I also have a volvo 850Turbo thats the beater... and sooo will only have two and a half cars... the other thing is I took a semester off from school and worked plus I have my own business that pays pretty well...

[-Audi_tuning-]

The Boxster is his fathers car and the Cayenne he no longer owns due to practicality and car payments. Yes I know him.

hmmm who invited you to this thread, are you hoping to find a post from a girl I might be seeing so you can attempt and fail to hit on her... how about you just go back to being a college failout and leave me alone... and if you didnt know, Im on the title to the boxster now, and if you dont believe me why dont you drive by the house and see for yourself.... Its down at school with me... so you can take your words and hopefully choke on em...pce-

[JMRQuattro]

ummm the cayenne I just sold, the A4 Im selling, the boxster is only half mine, and I also have a volvo 850Turbo thats the beater... and sooo will only have two and a half cars... the other thing is I took a semester off from school and worked plus I have my own business that pays pretty well...

wouldn't the cayenne and the new a5 be in pretty close of a price point though? So if you were ever planning on going to the a5 wouldn't the same situation with hard payments arise? I'm not trying to hate or anything i'm just curious. And if you're on the title for the boxster i'd say sell that one instead of the a4. When i see a nicely modded a4 i think more of it than when i see a boxster, modded or not. A boxster is one of those cars that's ok i guess, but whenever i see somoeone driving it i always get that vibe that they've always wanted a porsche but they couldn't afford the 911. Just my opionion, I think there are better cars for the cost of a boxster.

But what business did you start? No offense but I'm just wondering what business you could have possibly started in a semester's time that didn't cost you way more than you could have possibly made to afford a new a5?

[-Audi_tuning-]

wouldn't the cayenne and the new a5 be in pretty close of a price point though? So if you were ever planning on going to the a5 wouldn't the same situation with hard payments arise? I'm not trying to hate or anything i'm just curious. And if you're on the title for the boxster i'd say sell that one instead of the a4. When i see a nicely modded a4 i think more of it than when i see a boxster, modded or not. A boxster is one of those cars that's ok i guess, but whenever i see somoeone driving it i always get that vibe that they've always wanted a porsche but they couldn't afford the 911. Just my opionion, I think there are better cars for the cost of a boxster.

But what business did you start? No offense but I'm just wondering what business you could have possibly started in a semester's time that didn't cost you way more than you could have possibly made to afford a new a5?

Im doing a one pay lease, thats the whole point, I sell the a4, write a check and drive a car with no payments for either 24 or 36 months... and the boxster is awsome, I love that thing and if you see a boxster like a ok car then youve never driven one or tracked it... the thing is soo awsome on the track its worth the 20k we bought it for(with 29k on it and 8 years old)... And the A4 needs some work sooo its a good time to dump it...

As for my business, I started a detailing company two years ago but spent a lot of time focussing on it so that now I have myself, my partner, and two kids undernieth us, I detail cars for a shop in the area, private clients, and then some paint restoration work too... its good pay and low overhead... I sold hondas when I wasnt in school and worked on getting things up and running with the business...

[JMRQuattro]

Im doing a one pay lease, thats the whole point, I sell the a4, write a check and drive a car with no payments for either 24 or 36 months... and the boxster is awsome, I love that thing and if you see a boxster like a ok car then youve never driven one or tracked it... the thing is soo awsome on the track its worth the 20k we bought it for(with 29k on it and 8 years old)... And the A4 needs some work sooo its a good time to dump it...

As for my business, I started a detailing company two years ago but spent a lot of time focussing on it so that now I have myself, my partner, and two kids undernieth us, I detail cars for a shop in the area, private clients, and then some paint restoration work too... its good pay and low overhead... I sold hondas when I wasnt in school and worked on getting things up and running with the business...

I guess i've just never really been a boxster fan... I know they put up good numbers and are supposed to be fun to drive but i just never really got into them.

But that explains the business. I was thinking you know like a conventional business with all the running expenses and stuff that you'd probably still be paying off loans from starting it, let alone getting a new car. But i was actually thinking about doing that same thing. I have detailed my families cars and friends cars for cash before to save them some money. And my girl friend actually suggested i try to get my own detailing thing started. Do all the work yourself at a lower rate than other places and people will come.

A friend and i did about the same thing only our thing was tuning snowboards and skis. We made a home made hot belt wax machine in his garage, bought a couple things of high end wax, and got an edge grinder from BC surf and sport and picked up different grit stones from home depot. Basically it cost us under $50 to do all that and then we tuned boards out of his garage for like $10 for a full tune and $5 for mounting bindings or drilling out boards or skis. So we made all our money back in about 3 boards. We did it for about a month leading up to snowboarding season and ended up with about $300 just off of kids from school and some friends we knew. Plus we saved money tuning our own boards. The problem is that is a very specific market and a very limited one. Can't keep up something like that all year long. But we had a bunch of people wanting us to do it cause we were cheaper than everywhere around who does tuning. So i'm sure once we start again this season we'll have a lot of return customers and probably a lot of new ones. Sucks we can't make a market for that all year long though

[toothysaw2]

the down economy should not have affected the value of your car that much. sure there are less buyers, so you might need to lower your asking price some, but it's not like your 20k used car is suddenly worth 10k... and if you were patient could probably get what you're asking (assuming it's reasonable).

if you really want an A5 be patient, save a little extra money to offset whatever depreciation you feel your car has taken, and then get an A5.

[-Audi_tuning-]

the down economy should not have affected the value of your car that much. sure there are less buyers, so you might need to lower your asking price some, but it's not like your 20k used car is suddenly worth 10k... and if you were patient could probably get what you're asking (assuming it's reasonable).

if you really want an A5 be patient, save a little extra money to offset whatever depreciation you feel your car has taken, and then get an A5.

Yea thats what I was thinking actually... we'll see what happens... and my car all done out is selling for 17k, i mean its not that ourtragious i dont think, i just need to be more patient I guess

[-Audi_tuning-]

I guess i've just never really been a boxster fan... I know they put up good numbers and are supposed to be fun to drive but i just never really got into them.

But that explains the business. I was thinking you know like a conventional business with all the running expenses and stuff that you'd probably still be paying off loans from starting it, let alone getting a new car. But i was actually thinking about doing that same thing. I have detailed my families cars and friends cars for cash before to save them some money. And my girl friend actually suggested i try to get my own detailing thing started. Do all the work yourself at a lower rate than other places and people will come.

A friend and i did about the same thing only our thing was tuning snowboards and skis. We made a home made hot belt wax machine in his garage, bought a couple things of high end wax, and got an edge grinder from BC surf and sport and picked up different grit stones from home depot. Basically it cost us under $50 to do all that and then we tuned boards out of his garage for like $10 for a full tune and $5 for mounting bindings or drilling out boards or skis. So we made all our money back in about 3 boards. We did it for about a month leading up to snowboarding season and ended up with about $300 just off of kids from school and some friends we knew. Plus we saved money tuning our own boards. The problem is that is a very specific market and a very limited one. Can't keep up something like that all year long. But we had a bunch of people wanting us to do it cause we were cheaper than everywhere around who does tuning. So i'm sure once we start again this season we'll have a lot of return customers and probably a lot of new ones. Sucks we can't make a market for that all year long though

I like having the lowkey projects though, makes quick cash and you can do it on ur own terms...gl though!

[JMRQuattro]

^^ for sure. Paid for pretty much my entire season last year as far a gas and food and some lift tickets and stuff.

[Monizzle]

worst thread ever.
buy the a5.

[JMRQuattro]

^^ someone's a downer. You must post only perfect threads that everyone can contribute to and make 11 pages each. Am i right?

[moses0324]

to the OP...stick to school, you have a lot to learn (seriously). Your priorities are way off. I can tell because:

1. Asking on an audi forum
2. Dependent on the stock market
3. Dependent on depreciation rates

Buy a car for means of transporation and enjoyment. Don't buy the car unless you can do both without financial difficulties.

I dont care if mommy and daddy didnt buy the vehicles. Thats not the point. For a business owner you are not very savvy, which is another cause for concern. Anyone can tell you that leasing a vehicle is the worst financial decision. This is of course unless you can write it off under a multi million dollar business, which it doesnt sound like you have.

My words of advice: stay in school and live within your means, not your dreams

[ShadyJC]

My words of advice: stay in school and live within your means, not your dreams

Words of a wise man right there.

[JMRQuattro]

Anyone can tell you that leasing a vehicle is the worst financial decision.

vehicles in general are just bad investments. Unless you're a classic car collector and you have something that will appreciate in value instead of the usual which is always the opposite. I guess Ferrari's are on the list for the top 5 worst investments haha.

[moses0324]

vehicles in general are just bad investments. Unless you're a classic car collector and you have something that will appreciate in value instead of the usual which is always the opposite. I guess Ferrari's are on the list for the top 5 worst investments haha.

I thought this was obvious. I must say buying a car outright does stop the bleeding "slightly"...

[JMRQuattro]

^^ haha yeah. But i guess it really depends on your situation but sometimes leasing a car could be better. Because if you give the car back at the end of the term you only end up paying half of what you would if you bought the car outright. But that's assuming you don't go lease another vehicle once that one's gone haha. Which never happens. Depreciation sucks.

[-Audi_tuning-]

to the OP...stick to school, you have a lot to learn (seriously). Your priorities are way off. I can tell because:

1. Asking on an audi forum
2. Dependent on the stock market
3. Dependent on depreciation rates

Buy a car for means of transporation and enjoyment. Don't buy the car unless you can do both without financial difficulties.

I dont care if mommy and daddy didnt buy the vehicles. Thats not the point. For a business owner you are not very savvy, which is another cause for concern. Anyone can tell you that leasing a vehicle is the worst financial decision. This is of course unless you can write it off under a multi million dollar business, which it doesnt sound like you have.

My words of advice: stay in school and live within your means, not your dreams

Haha thanks man, If I hadnt worked in the industry for a while now I would agree, but a lease isnt the worst financial decision, 80% of americans dont make the last payment on their car,and 45% roll negative equity into their new car... I also like having a new car which is why its the best decision for me....I appreciate you saying Im not very business savy, Ive actually done alright for myself, and my schoolwork is going just fine... my priorities arent that off, I am trying to pick a car within my financial situation, just because Im young doesnt make me an idiot, but thanks for the condecending tone...

[moses0324]

^^^ehhh doesn't sound like you are living within your means...dumping vehicles you couldn't afford (cayenne comes to mind)...

if you need to ask for financial advice on a car forum you probably shouldn't be in the market for a car. this would be like me asking how much does a ferrari cost to maintain. if money is that big of an issue then its probably not the vehicle for you...i think the US economy come to mind

people obtaining lending without a financial background. sounds pretty similar to your situation.

im not condescending im thinking practical...im probably your same age. i just bought an 08 lexus, so i know what you are going through...just think things through

and business cant be too great...(see aforementioned arguments)

[-Audi_tuning-]

^^^ehhh doesn't sound like you are living within your means...dumping vehicles you couldn't afford (cayenne comes to mind)...

if you need to ask for financial advice on a car forum you probably shouldn't be in the market for a car. this would be like me asking how much does a ferrari cost to maintain. if money is that big of an issue then its probably not the vehicle for you...i think the US economy come to mind

people obtaining lending without a financial background. sounds pretty similar to your situation.

im not condescending im thinking practical...im probably your same age. i just bought an 08 lexus, so i know what you are going through...just think things through

and business cant be too great...(see aforementioned arguments)

dude, shut up, and learn what condecending means, it has nothing to do with age... and btw your input is no longer wanted, so find someone elses threads to try and act better then everyone in....

-->btw in case you wanted to know, found a buyer for my car I believe and itll give me the money to get the a5, stuff it--

[moses0324]

^^^another keyboard warrior...watch out

keep in mind this is a forum and you did ask for peoples opinions...if you are so close minded then you shouldnt be posting especially for suggestions

im not trying to act better than you...give me an example. im trying to think logically for you. if you see prior posts some people actually agree with me...

get your head out of your ass and start thinking...

[CanuckRS]

I cant afford to get this thing with the stocks down like this and with the awsome depreciation this whole thing has done to my car... Im gunna step down at A4 or A3... I know, Sucks!.... should I step down to the a3 and have it for three years, till im out of college or get an a4 for two years... I know why lease? cause its whats in my budget for now and I like a new car all the time....my thoughst about this whole thing:

Simple dude, if you can't afford it, don't buy it! This is exactly the problem with the financial markets...people borrowing money for sh&t they don't need.
Suck it up, take responsibility for yourself, and buy a beater!

[moses0324]

^^^why am i not surprised someone agrees with me...

[snosk8tr123]

dude, shut up, and learn what condecending means, it has nothing to do with age... and btw your input is no longer wanted, so find someone elses threads to try and act better then everyone in....

-->btw in case you wanted to know, found a buyer for my car I believe and itll give me the money to get the a5, stuff it--

great "business man"

[snosk8tr123]

^^ haha yeah. But i guess it really depends on your situation but sometimes leasing a car could be better. Because if you give the car back at the end of the term you only end up paying half of what you would if you bought the car outright. But that's assuming you don't go lease another vehicle once that one's gone haha. Which never happens. Depreciation sucks.

The difference is at the end of the lease you have nothing.... when you buy a car, you still own something of value. So you basically payed the price of half the car and ended up with nothing in the end.... just like renting an apartment instead of buying, you're just burning money. But if you truly can afford a car and afford to change it every few years, then leasing is definitely a better option, especially if you own a multi-million $$$ business.

[Chapunki]

This thread is full of lulz