pulling the motor help

[mrhappiepants]

hello everyone, i recently bought an s4 with a blown turbo. hoping i could buy a bentley manual and be capable of pulling the motor myself. well i've started tearing it apart and realized i might have bit off a little more than i can chew. looking for a local or even just some help. or pointers. i'm stuck. i'm in lebanon PA

[mrhappiepants]

help

[espo4442]

if your in a pinch call aptuning they are local to you i'm not sure how good they are with s4's tho

[gointoscott]

Hey Man,

Well first thing I want to say is. Take a few steps back. maybe a day off and collect your thoughts. I know it feels daunting. but really it is just a lot fo small jobs. so break it down and take each job 1 at a time.

Next change your mind set. Instead of saying. WHAT HAVE I GOT MYSELF INTO!!!
Instead say. Yes I can! lol one of the best things I learned from college, never say to yourself that you cant do it.

Ok enough with the pep talk - Cheer leader bull crap.


The biggest thing that usually makes a job unbearable is not having the right tool for what you are trying to accomplish. Then you strip something and turn a 5 minute job on 1 bolt into hours of frustration.

What are you having problems with? How far did you get? Let us know what your problem is and we can try and give you some pointers.

There are nice write ups out there that you can reference.

This one has the most pictures:

http://forums.carolinaeuros.com/inde...showtopic=3297

Or:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ht=engine+pull


Both writeups are by the same person. You could try contacting him for some advice. He did it himself in his garage. Also user The_Jerbel did it outside his house on the street. I think a few guys pulled the motor outside on the street.


I have not taken the task on myself yet. I hope I dont have to, but I keep telling myself if turob's go that I will do it and it will get done.

[mrhappiepants]

alright i probably should have started with how far i got. i really only spent one saturday on it. i got myself a bentley and started to follow that pretty much step by step. pulled the rad support and pretty much have all the lines and connectors un hooked. the next step in the bentley is to pull the heat shields that sit over the turbos. i'm not sure if i should try to drop the subframe and motor mounts. keep in mind i'm just in the garage on jack stands and i've got a cherry picker.

[mrhappiepants]

thanks guys

[mrhappiepants]

ps. i only paid $3450 for the car. i think its pretty much bone stock with tinted windows. 108k miles

[gointoscott]

Hey happy pants

Dont try and take the heat shields off with the engine in the car. In fact from what I read its easiest to disconnect the downpipes from the exhaust under the car and just pull the downpipes out with the engine. It will save a lot of hassle. Also leave the tranny connected and pull the engine and tranny at same time. Just my 2 cents.

[mrhappiepants]

alright thanks for the help guys. the car is at my parents house and i sold my other car to be able to afford this car. so i don't get to work on this car as much as i'd like. but everything is just about ready to pull this thing. i have the motor and tranny mounts on still. but i'm having another problemo... all of the DIY's that i've seen are for manual cars, and i sadly have a tiptronic (i know it sucks, its my first automatic car i'm not sure if i'll know how to drive it). anyway so it turns out the inards of the shifter for the tippy are quite a bit different than the stick so does anybody know of a DIY for the automatic trans.
TIA

[gointoscott]

(i know it sucks, its my first automatic car i'm not sure if i'll know how to drive it).

P is for park. R is for reverse. D is for drive.

Sorry for the sarcasm. Anyway. I have a manual so cant help on the tip question you have. Hopefully someone will respond.


Are you putting K04's in? Any pic's of the job so far? We all love pic's

[mrhappiepants]

i can't afford stage 3. i'm going to take my chances and buy some used ko3's, and get the newer oil feed lines. also found that the stock TBB was torn. which is most likely what led to the demise of the turbo.

[gointoscott]

I C

How much you spending on the used turbo's? IDK I'd really suggest putting new turbo's in. I know it will cost more but its a lot of work pulling the engine and switching out the turbo's to have to do it again shortly after.

You dont have to go full stage 3 just put the better turbo's and Inlet's in.

[MacDaddy]

i can't afford stage 3. i'm going to take my chances and buy some used ko3's, and get the newer oil feed lines. also found that the stock TBB was torn. which is most likely what led to the demise of the turbo.

if you get new used turbos, rebuild them, the most important thing is to put the turbine back on the shaft the same way it came off to maintain its balance.

[mrhappiepants]

used turbos for 300 or new stock turbos for 1600

[gointoscott]

Most the time you get what you pay for.

Hows the engine pull going? Have it out yet?

[Dimcorner]

what section of the bentley is the actual motor pull instructions?
I almost went at it this weekend but noticed that the engine puller my dad has doesn't have the leveling bar so I figured that I need to get that.

[AAAA]

some "odds and ends" tips for you:

-pull the brown grounding wire from the ds firewall
-pull power steering from the front ds toward front of the engine
-pull rear power steering (bolt connector) in between the back of the engine and firewall
-pull bolt connection (large) from A/C canister
-hopefully you pulled the ecu harness and put it on top of the engine instead of pulling everything else off the car
-pull dp's out with car
-undo axles and have them ready to pull out during the engine pull (they have to come out to pull engine, works best for me during pull b/c they get in a position where they'll come out, just do it before the point they get stuck!)
-when you undo tranny mounts, take the middle nut off AND the 2 13mm bolts and remove the whole "ear"
-its a good idea to have a jack underneath the car in between the legs of the engine hoist to support the tranny when pulling it (don't know what your tranny setup looks like but this works for manual) b/c when you hoist the engine way up to pull the tranny will sag too low, so it needs support

That's all the quirks I can think of right now. any more questions just ask

[mrhappiepants]

thanks for the pointers. it's almost done but i'm at a stand still until i figure out the shifter issues.

[AMC]

thanks for the pointers. it's almost done but i'm at a stand still until i figure out the shifter issues.

are you refering to the shifter surround? unbolt the 3 10m bolts and it will fall right down. no need to unbolt the shifter having to realign it later

[mrhappiepants]

do i need to remove the center console to find these bolts? (by center console i mean all the plastic surrounding it) i took off the shifter knob and covers.

[mrhappiepants]

help

[topgearstig]

hey I have a 2000 with tip and just finnished pulling motor for turbo relacement. I pulled motor only because I didn't have the triple square socket thing for the front axels, don't pull just the mtor by be way. I wasted alot of time. Ok now for the tip shiffter surround. Pop off the suuround from around the chrome tip surround ( the thing with the P R N D 4 3 2) then remove three bolts like someone said earlier. Also the downpipes are nearly impossible to remove on a tip car with the engine still in, so don't waste your time. Just disconect the downpipes from catback it's much easier. oh yeah engine levelor from Harbor Frieght for $35.

[mrhappiepants]

i think i'm pretty set, the shifter thing was the only thing i really had a problem with. i took off the shifter surround. but i'm not sure what bolts your talking about. there is alot of plastic stuff under there and it doesn't look like it will fit through the hole. thanks