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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    That sucks, story???

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    WHOA!? wtf happened? sorry to hear/see that man. hope everything internally is still sound.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    what causes that?
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Basically something somehow got sucked in the intake and BAM. Dont know when it happend but the car had been running really shitty lately. So after ordering a new wastegate(whick I now know that I didnt need), I pulled the turbo off and found this.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    No air filter? :(

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Blades look like an F-16 engine I saw a couple years ago that sucked up a bunch of dirt.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    and you didn't hear some insane noise coming from the front of the car at any point?

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    looks fine to me..



    ... sorry man

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    WTF! Holy shit dude! Let me know if you need anything!

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    damn that sucks!

    that might be the reason for no boost!

    so do you think it has been like that ever since you first installed it? 9IIR you have never seen past 15psi, correct?)
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    HOLY SHIT!!!

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Yah it worked fine for 2 days or so. Then one day I had a pop. A coupler blew off and i thought that was the end of it. Boy was i wrong.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    that sux royally. although my lawnmower blade looks like that

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 7speed's Avatar
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    WTF! Holy shit dude! Let me know if you need anything!
    Well seeing as Im going to be getting a new turbo now, these look mighty appealing.

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    so what are you going to do? Buy a new one, I can hook you up with Garrett.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings 7speed's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBM View Post
    so what are you going to do? Buy a new one, I can hook you up with Garrett.

    How ? They told me that a new cartridge would cost around 1k. I was like F-that, Ill just buy a new turbo.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by 7speed View Post
    Basically something somehow got sucked in the intake and BAM. Dont know when it happend but the car had been running really shitty lately. So after ordering a new wastegate(whick I now know that I didnt need), I pulled the turbo off and found this.
    Ouch! I am sorry to hear. FOD! (foreign object damage) This is a big deal beyond just the turbo.

    What is your intake set-up like? Air Filter? Etc... Got any clues as to what could have gotten in?


    I suggest a few things to verify the rest of the engine is O.K.
    ~ Pull your FMIC off and take a look at that too. The particles probably got really small so also pull your Throttle body off and look at your intake manifold and throttle body. See if you can look down into the valves. Might have to pull the intake manifold off too. Check for any other damage into the engine.

    ~ Perhaps Shawn has a boroscope at his shop? I am assuming his shop is near you? Really should boroscope into the cylinders to take a look at them (pistons, walls, etc..). Start with looking at the bottom of the spark plugs for potential damage.

    Best of luck!




    Quote Originally Posted by sandspeed View Post
    Blades look like an F-16 engine I saw a couple years ago that sucked up a bunch of dirt.
    Which is why we design for such instances (bird strikes mainly).
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Well Im guessing that it's been that way for about 4 months now, and Ive been thru 2 oil changes. The oil seemed fine. I will check to make sure though.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by 7speed View Post
    How ? They told me that a new cartridge would cost around 1k. I was like F-that, Ill just buy a new turbo.

    What A/R you looking for?
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by 7speed View Post
    Well Im guessing that it's been that way for about 4 months now, and Ive been thru 2 oil changes. The oil seemed fine. I will check to make sure though.
    Holy Shit!

    Well, then I guess things are okay. Still should do a visual on the throttle body and definitely the spark plugs. The spark plugs will tell you a lot.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by JBM View Post
    What A/R you looking for?
    Im not sure. I just know that I want a full framed internally wastegated 2871R. I would go 3071R, but i want to have a litle more time to play before winding out the RPM band.

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    Holy Shit!

    Well, then I guess things are okay. Still should do a visual on the throttle body and definitely the spark plugs. The spark plugs will tell you a lot.
    Yah Ill check that tomorrow.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by 7speed View Post
    Well seeing as Im going to be getting a new turbo now, these look mighty appealing.

    ATP T3 Manifold

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    Call me and we'll get what you need And 28? Decided not to go bigger?

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Damn bro, I guess the positive aspect is that you have finally discovered the problem, sucks that it is such an expensive one. What type of intake were you running at the time?
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Thats known a FOD!

    Foreign Object Damage.

    Jet aircraft engines fall victum to this, and its major $$$$ to fix...

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    damn Sam! sorry to hear!
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by MikTip View Post
    Jet aircraft engines fall victum to this, and its major $$$$ to fix...
    9 times out of 10 the engine is trashed and written off as a loss. I've seen it happen.
    -Doug
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Sam, you going to stay with the same turbo?

    JBM, sending you aa pM
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by absolutegtr View Post
    Sam, you going to stay with the same turbo?

    JBM, sending you aa pM

    Yes and No. Im gonna buy the same turbo, but with a T25 housing. Full GT2871R.

    If you need a manifold and testpipe hit me up, Ill give you a sweet deal.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Damn Sam!!!! That explains everything now! I know you didnt want to take the turbo off but I know youre kinda happy you found out now and not later! I'll call you later on..
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    Im happy that I found out what the problem is, but Im not happy that Im gonna have to shell out nearly 1700.00 for my new top/side mount setup
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    ouch thats sucks

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by 7speed View Post
    Yes and No. Im gonna buy the same turbo, but with a T25 housing. Full GT2871R.

    If you need a manifold and testpipe hit me up, Ill give you a sweet deal.
    Unless you are getting some sweet used deal, then I would highly recommend you go with a t3 setup instead.

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Quote Originally Posted by 7speed View Post
    Yes and No. Im gonna buy the same turbo, but with a T25 housing. Full GT2871R.

    If you need a manifold and testpipe hit me up, Ill give you a sweet deal.
    Foolish idea, the eliminator setup makes more power than the full setup and is much more reliable.

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    Why not buy just a new wheel and have it balanced?
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    35r and REVO...what?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 7speed's Avatar
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    please explain. The reason I was gonna buy it with the t25 is because I found a t25 ATP manifold for cheap.
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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    I can spool my T25 2871R with apr 3+ hardware to 20psi at the same rpm that I did with my gtrs (2860) and atp mani (both 2.0L). With the 2.0L spool with the T25 2871R I am now spooling hundreds of rpms quicker and can hit +/- 2-3psi more peak with this setup than the gtrs and 1.8L or 2.0L. Peak being 25psi up here with my current setup.

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    ATP T25 manifold is a piece of shit, the bolts that hold the turbo break daily, there is no TIP that fits and the downpipe is a piece of shit too.

    I ran this crap back in 2004 and am glad to have it off of my car.

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    Re: Total complete utter DESTRUCTION

    agreed atp makes shit mani's

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