stage 3 is more expensive than anyone says

[alosh]

well i blew the k03s finally, 90K miles with about 45K running 18psi. anyways I'm going stage 3 (minus for now i can't swing fueling just yet). anyways, its more expensive than I thought, because I'm not going to overlook anything and do the job over. so heres my break down, tell me if im pricing wrong.

-K04s ($2250)
-034 Inlets ($375)
-Vast Ceramic clutch ($745)
-Piggies (free)
-custom catback (???)
-ECS Oil feed and drain lines ($600)
-5bar FPR ($125)
-Manual Boost Controller ($50)

TOTAL : I'm looking at $4145 not including the catback...and I'll need my LWFW resurfaced probably.

Am I really going overboard or does that sound right? It seems every says they can go full stage 3 for $4000 so i guess im calling bullshit and asking for help? TIA i really didn't expect this crap to happen so soon

PS...I think GIAC stage 3- tune says you need a bosch 5bar FPR (do i? theres no diff. really)

[spinny]

Sounds about right - I'm going to be selling my AWE fueling kit, if you're interested let me know.

[2001S4NY]

you don't really need to spend that $600 on oil drain and feed lines, you can find a 5Bar used for cheap

There are other alternatives to Giac stage 3- software which are cheaper, what do they charge for stage 3- like 600-800?

[Dr.Duct]

you don't really need to spend that $600 on oil drain and feed lines, you can find a 5Bar used for cheap

There are other alternatives to Giac stage 3- software which are cheaper, what do they charge for stage 3- like 600-800?

second.. Find some of the stuff used.

also do you really need that clutch?

[HighDesertAudi]

Skip the 3- setup and save for the real thing.

You can clean out your existing oil lines or find them cheaper from alot of other places (even if you want to replace them, you don't need to do all of them, STFA).

And reconsider what clutch you want to run. Are you going to be launching the car alot?

[Rated S]

Just clean your existing oil lines, no reason to spend $600 on new ones.

Resurfaced fw should be like $100 MAX iirc.

So now your price just went down to a little over $3,500.
Sound pretty good.
Now bend over for labor or do it yourself.

[Evilevo]

I have an AWE Fueling kit forsale if you want to go full stage 3 for cheaper

[Grangalan]

Not too bad. I spend 1800 on turbos, 275 for inlets and a grand for labor.the supporting mods were done prior

is the 5 bar fpr necessary?

[S4_NE]

well i blew the k03s finally, 90K miles with about 45K running 18psi. anyways I'm going stage 3 (minus for now i can't swing fueling just yet). anyways, its more expensive than I thought, because I'm not going to overlook anything and do the job over. so heres my break down, tell me if im pricing wrong.

-K04s ($2250)
-034 Inlets ($375)
-Vast Ceramic clutch ($745)
-Piggies (free)
-custom catback (???)
-ECS Oil feed and drain lines ($600)
-5bar FPR ($125)
-Manual Boost Controller ($50)

TOTAL : I'm looking at $4145 not including the catback...and I'll need my LWFW resurfaced probably.

Am I really going overboard or does that sound right? It seems every says they can go full stage 3 for $4000 so i guess im calling bullshit and asking for help? TIA i really didn't expect this crap to happen so soon

PS...I think GIAC stage 3- tune says you need a bosch 5bar FPR (do i? theres no diff. really)

nice start, to add if you need to do your tb and engine/trans mounts, also what IC's are you going to use, if the car is apart it is a good ideal to get your ic done when the car is apart, for a cat back i recomend ASP system

[spinny]

I have an AWE Fueling kit forsale if you want to go full stage 3 for cheaper

Is there an echo in here?? :)

[RolledMySTi]

No need for the oil lines. Just clean them up like people have said. Definitely get new motor and trans mounts while you are in there.

[HighDesertAudi]

Also do the RMS, and any other seals that might be leaking (Valve covers, cam seals, etc).
You can do things like exhaust and Intercoolers later. Just do the essentials that you can't do later when the engine's back in.

[alosh]

Also do the RMS, and any other seals that might be leaking (Valve covers, cam seals, etc).
You can do things like exhaust and Intercoolers later. Just do the essentials that you can't do later when the engine's back in.

what is RMS?

my TB was done and i had the metal impeller water pump done. I'm just going to do the belt and tensioners. As for seals, everything is mint in my engine (it was great, i got it off a 60 year old guy who was a power attorney in NYC, and he spared not a single expense, so all the modifications were done by the dealer )

i'm going to replace the control arms in this thing too.

i'm doing all the work myself, but i'm a little worried. I really don't know anyone around here (i live in MD) that can help, except my friend Clint but hes still in school and i don't won't to bother him to much. i've done other things and am mechanically inclined, but i just can't fuck anything up (i don't have the money to fix a fuck up).

[highPSI-S4]

RMS= Rear Main Seal if i'm correct.

If were talking bout the same clint i'm sure he could fit you in his schedule. Aleast you'll have alittle help and will cut the cost of labor.

[alosh]

oh yea also, i just going to do a custom catback like deb38's single 3" becuase i figure itll sound good and be the cheapest for now (can't afford asp and stage3 at once)

i run an rs4 clutch right now...i don't know if it will be up to the challenge of k04s and would rather put in the best clutch for my money while the engines out.

i picked the ceramic rather than kevlar from VAST because its only 25 bucks more, and i guess for longetivity i wouldn't mind the more harsh engagement and stiffness.

anyone know how to clean the oil lines?

and there will be a MASSIVE write up with LOTS of pics. everytime i searched for a DIY, i wish there was a literal step by step DIY.

oh and btw, working with the stock market sucks really bad recently. just a rant

[Boris]

yeah no need for the 5 bar, all the stage 3 kits I know run stock 4 bar oem one.

don't forget if your doing the clutch your probably gonna want at least a new resurfaced flywheel also..

[alosh]

yea clints a nice guy and all that but my budget is so tight i dont know how much i should offer him for his help, and i don't want to insult him or make him think i don't value his work by offering to little.

we haven't been friends for too long, i ran into him without a bumper on and a huge FMIC instead on campus when i had my TT 225.

and clint, if you see this thread...we need to meet up man, haven't seen you car since it was 1.8.

-tareq

[alosh]

yeah no need for the 5 bar, all the stage 3 kits I know run stock 4 bar oem one.

don't forget if your doing the clutch your probably gonna want at least a new resurfaced flywheel also..

im not going full stage 3 yet, so i need the 5bar fpr right?

and my current clutch is mated up to a LWFW so that will be resurfaced...where do i take that, a machine shop or something?

[dougyfresh]

yea clints a nice guy and all that but my budget is so tight i dont know how much i should offer him for his help, and i don't want to insult him or make him think i don't value his work by offering to little.

we haven't been friends for too long, i ran into him without a bumper on and a huge FMIC instead on campus when i had my TT 225.

and clint, if you see this thread...we need to meet up man, haven't seen you car since it was 1.8.

-tareq

send him a pm (audia4_20t)

[highPSI-S4]

send him a pm (audia4_20t)

That would be Clint, he already stated he knows clint and might ask for his assistance.

[nateS4]

i run an rs4 clutch right now...i don't know if it will be up to the challenge of k04s and would rather put in the best clutch for my money while the engines out.

How many miles are on the RS4 clutch? Not to sound like a dick, but the RS4 clutch is what came on the RS4 which used KO4s, and I think they are rated for a decent amount of HP. But if the RS4 clutch does have a lot of miles on it then its a good idea to replace since you have everything apart.

Let us know how things go, I want to go Stage 3 in the next year, and money does not grow on trees for me.

[Rated S]

im not going full stage 3 yet, so i need the 5bar fpr right?

and my current clutch is mated up to a LWFW so that will be resurfaced...where do i take that, a machine shop or something?

I ran Stage 3- for about 4 months with the stock 4bar fpr no problem.

[alosh]

Let us know how things go, I want to go Stage 3 in the next year, and money does not grow on trees for me.

i sure will, and ill have DIY for all you guys. and the money thing, oh man am i screwed.

as for the RS4 clutch comment, its not a composite like ceramic or kevlar, and i'd like it to withstand the occasional launch. i figure 700 now, or take out the tranny later and be every more pissed off

[nateS4]

I would at least stick with the Kevlar if you are on the street more than the track. And if you are going to be launching the car often with a ceramic clutch I would hope the tranny is being upgraded .

[Stumies]

I've been stage 3- for about 10 months and am using the stock FPR with no problems.

[jukesandz]

Hmm I thought going Stg 3 was more expensive than this, to be honest. I've looked at kits on the AWE website and others, and I just go . The way you guys are talking about it, Stg 3 seems more within reach than I ever thought it would be.

Anyways, definitely take a lot of pics when you do this. When the time comes, I'd like to hope that I won't have to trade a kidney for labor.

[S4evr]

you forgot fluids, that adds another $60 or so depending on the type of oil you choose

[jibberjive]

Hardware for the KO4's is like $80-100 and necessary

[NOVAS4]

Hardware for the KO4's is like $80-100 and necessary

depends where you get it from i believe ecs is the cheapest for like 65 or something iirc

[NOVAS4]

TO those who have been running stock FPR are you running stock ECU also? ive heard with running stock ecu and stock fpr it runs rich with k04s and have also heard it runs fine...? input please

[dougyfresh]

That would be Clint, he already stated he knows clint and might ask for his assistance.

I know that. Clint is pretty busy and hasn't been reading all the forums lately. From the way he was typing I assumed that even though he knows Clint in person he had no idea what his screen name is. Otherwise he would have PMd him rather than asking if Clint is reading this.

[JMTx86]

The thing that kills it is the price of those garbage ass turbos.

[highPSI-S4]

I know that. Clint is pretty busy and hasn't been reading all the forums lately. From the way he was typing I assumed that even though he knows Clint in person he had no idea what his screen name is. Otherwise he would have PMd him rather than asking if Clint is reading this.

Aww, my bad. I misunderstood that part.

[alosh]

Yea I know Clint, we've been playing phone tag for a bit. I'll get in touch with him this weekend, I'm ordering everythinig on Monday and will be taking a week off of work in the first week of November.

oh and i added in fluids and hardware on paper, but i really don't care anymore now that the oil lines can just be cleaned...and I've decided to replaced control arms.

[Caddy7]

I've been stage 3- for about 10 months and am using the stock FPR with no problems.

Hey man, I'm in HB also and am just about to buy k04's but have not decided what to do with the fueling part. Is there any chance to meet up with U so I could see what stage 3- can do?

/mike

[pzp107]

Do Not Buy From Spinny The Ecu Is Mine From Theat Fueling Kit

[Yuppie]

After I added everything up minus exhaust, downpipes, motor mounts, and coilovers which have been bought I'm still looking at 8-9K minus labor.

[hodan]

what is RMS?

my TB was done and i had the metal impeller water pump done. I'm just going to do the belt and tensioners. As for seals, everything is mint in my engine (it was great, i got it off a 60 year old guy who was a power attorney in NYC, and he spared not a single expense, so all the modifications were done by the dealer )

i'm going to replace the control arms in this thing too.

i'm doing all the work myself, but i'm a little worried. I really don't know anyone around here (i live in MD) that can help, except my friend Clint but hes still in school and i don't won't to bother him to much. i've done other things and am mechanically inclined, but i just can't fuck anything up (i don't have the money to fix a fuck up).

Uh, you are guaranteed to fuck this up if you don't know what a rear main seal is.

Seriously.

[alosh]

Uh, you are guaranteed to fuck this up if you don't know what a rear main seal is.

Seriously.

am I? ok we'll see.

thanks though.

[AudiA4_20T]

am I? ok we'll see.

thanks though.

this is quite a bit of work man... do you have an engine hoist and room to pull this sucker out? We might be able to figure something out