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    Turbo's: Picture Comparisons & Stats

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    Reading "Clint!" this morning I started searching around for pics of the Borg Warner turbo's and couldnt find any that compared them to others. So figured it might help to have a thread here with pics of various turbo's side by side with any stats about them you would like to list

    I dont know shit about the BW turbo's so looking for some info/pics on these: Bullseye S256 & Bullseye S362

    Here's what I got:

    T3 3071R on left, T3 3076R on right





    GT3071R Specs
    Turbine
    -Wheel: 60mm w/ 84 trim
    -Housing: .63 ar

    Compressor
    -Wheel: 71mm w/ 56 trim
    -Housing: .50 ar

    GT3076R Specs

    Turbine
    -Wheel: 60mm w/ 84 trim
    -Housing: .63 ar

    Compressor
    -Wheel: 76.2mm w/ 56 trim
    -Housing: .60 ar

    GTRS & T3 3071R



    GTRS & K04-015





    Ill post this again for the hell of it

    GT3071R & Precision PT74

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    Re: Turbo's: Picture Comparisons @ Stats

    i just physically drooled... awesome thread ...

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    great thread, love seeing turbo comparison photos!

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    goddamn that pt74 is HUGE>.....nice thread
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    Nice Thread. Good pics, Thanks!
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    Re: Turbo's: Picture Comparisons @ Stats

    This thread is worthless without compressor maps, dyno numbers or timeslips.

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    For picture comparison it works
    For stats...ehh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPA4 View Post
    This thread is worthless without compressor maps, dyno numbers or timeslips.
    yes but it's cool to be able to picture the differences in size when people are talking about all these turbos.

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    Re: Turbo's: Picture Comparisons @ Stats

    what car is that PT74 in?

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    it's a B6 A4. and the PT74 is just laying on top of the 3071r thats in it.

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    The PT74 belongs to Shawn's tech and is in his nearly 700AWHP R32

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPA4 View Post
    This thread is worthless without compressor maps, dyno numbers or timeslips.
    I was looking for and most curious about physical size in a picture and wheel size specs. Ive never been able to read a compressor map or understand what exactly its showing

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    http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech103.html

    My turbo is out of its efficiency range up here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPA4 View Post
    The PT74 belongs to Shawn's tech and is in his nearly 700AWHP R32
    Heres a few pics of the R. Havent dyno'd on higher boost but a year or so ago before alot of changes it did 584awhp on 15psi. Currently runs 10.7 @ 134 with full interior on 25psi and should be in the neighborhood of 700awhp




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    I want to see a pic of that giantastic ass turbo in the car, where exactly does it sit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPA4 View Post
    This thread is worthless without compressor maps, dyno numbers or timeslips.
    But its good for those 'internet tuners' that just keep talking....

    amongst other things.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    But its good for those 'internet tuners' that just keep talking....

    amongst other things.

    RUN what you BRUNG
    I know you have some comparison pics, come on, post up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAudi View Post
    I want to see a pic of that giantastic ass turbo in the car, where exactly does it sit?
    Are you kidding? I did ... its in the car right above your response.

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    And you guys suck, ADD SOMETHING USEFUL!!!

    GT3076R on left, S256 on right





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    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    I know you have some comparison pics, come on, post up!
    What do you want me to compare? I've only used two different turbochargers on my car (beyond stock). The only difference between the two is the compressor size and compressor maps.

    What I think is more useful is a table of various turbochargers and links to their respective information... specifically compressor maps for efficiency usage and the like. Then real world examples of engines and cars that use them (if applicable). We started this in the big thread in the FAQ section (which I think a lot of people forget we have such a section).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    What do you want me to compare? I've only used two different turbochargers on my car (beyond stock). The only difference between the two is the compressor size and compressor maps.

    What I think is more useful is a table of various turbochargers and links to their respective information... specifically compressor maps for efficiency usage and the like. Then real world examples of engines and cars that use them (if applicable). We started this in the big thread in the FAQ section (which I think a lot of people forget we have such a section).
    I looked through it and it didnt have much if any info in it. And internet tuners ... you haven't been able to back up shit either so your no different

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    I looked through it and it didnt have much if any info in it. And internet tuners ... you haven't been able to back up shit either so your no different
    What are you talking about? My car is currently sitting at a shop [slowly] getting tuned. Its not my fault the shop is prototyping a few kits for other vehicles (one in particular is a 30series B7 2.0T kit as well as more B6 S4 work) while mine has been concurrently there.

    I have not come out publicly and claimed what I think my car can do and what I think it is capable of without any real-world information to back up those claims... THAT, is what I refer to as 'internet tuners'.

    I am waiting to publicly say things until I have information to back up my statements. I don't want to mis-lead people with false claims.


    Regarding why my Avant is not at my house right now...... I, personally, don't really care if the car is at the shop for an extended period of time. As long as some work is getting done (which it is). Why rush a good tune that works across many different operating conditions just to say my car is 'done' and I'm driving it? I am a very meticulous individual and am driving Mark to look at many different aspects of the ECu to get my car running flawlessly. Any B6 that comes in after me, in turn, will benefit GREATLY from the work I am requesting on my car. Besides, I have lots of other stuff to do and not having my car in my possession has allowed me to finally focus on other things in the meantime (outside the Audi/VW scene).
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    I am an internet tuner
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    Shawn, your thread will get even longer in the future.
    love the pictures btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4 TSCHUSS View Post
    I am an internet tuner
    I guess i am a internet tuner also....

    modding my A4 is a side hobby for me, learning as i go (well, of course i research first but you know what i mean). i would still be stock with my local stealership working on my car if it were not for audiforums (where i started) and audizine (where i ended up after seeing most of the cool people were over here). now i'm running a stage 3 GTRS setup and don't think twice about pulling the entire front end of my car apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by widgget View Post
    I guess i am a internet tuner also....

    modding my A4 is a side hobby for me, learning as i go (well, of course i research first but you know what i mean). i would still be stock with my local stealership working on my car if it were not for audiforums (where i started) and audizine (where i ended up after seeing most of the cool people were over here). now i'm running a stage 3 GTRS setup and don't think twice about pulling the entire front end of my car apart.

    THANK YOU INTERNET!
    That's not the definition of internet tuner...
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    then maybe i'm not one after all :P

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    Still going to the track tonight Shawn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    Still going to the track tonight Shawn?
    Its tomorrow night and not sure. Just got my new injector seats put in. What a F'in pain in the ass! Old ones we're brittle as hell so I had to take the intake mani off just to change them and keep from getting anything down in the valves!

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    Go Go GO!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    Go Go GO!!
    Not the fix Stupid F'in car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    Heres a few pics of the R. Havent dyno'd on higher boost but a year or so ago before alot of changes it did 584awhp on 15psi. Currently runs 10.7 @ 134 with full interior on 25psi and should be in the neighborhood of 700awhp



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    Quote Originally Posted by widgget View Post
    I guess i am a internet tuner also....

    modding my A4 is a side hobby for me, learning as i go (well, of course i research first but you know what i mean). i would still be stock with my local stealership working on my car if it were not for audiforums (where i started) and audizine (where i ended up after seeing most of the cool people were over here). now i'm running a stage 3 GTRS setup and don't think twice about pulling the entire front end of my car apart.

    THANK YOU INTERNET!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    Are you kidding? I did ... its in the car right above your response.

    I dont see the turbo in the car, i see piping. Im saying show me where its hidden cause i cant see shit.
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    Funny. About the talk of "internet tuners" that is. I'll wait for the right discussion to start about that and wont jack Shawn's excellent thread.
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    K04-15 vs. Bullseye S256 .55AR


    S256 installed in my car, on top of a SPA manifold, custom intake, etc.
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    S362 on a 1.8T

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    damn man....i hope u built that motor to 11k RPM.....lol. even then you might only get 2k at spool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverNoob View Post
    damn man....i hope u built that motor to 11k RPM.....lol. even then you might only get 2k at spool!

    j/k...just redonkulous!
    should spool in the mid 4s methinks... and the head will rev to 8500, should be a good time
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    how is that gonna fit under the hood? looks like clearance might be an issue, no?
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