saw a IS-F tonight

[MacDaddy]

that thing looks like a big pile of poo.

you'll think your seeing double when you see the tailpipes and the body has been over accessorized with vents and flares.

[Toast]

you should see pics of the engine bay its actually worse then the styling

[Monizzle]

i've seen one in just about every color in my neighborhood. shit looks like ass in every color.
not a fan...sounds great though.

[moses0324]

yea its not the best looking car...pictures do it no justice though

ive seen a few in person and have been somewhat impressed...i like the overall design but the front...too beluga whalish for me...they should have just used the regular IS design

for looks i would rather purchase an m3 or rs4..

[MacDaddy]

you should see pics of the engine bay its actually worse then the styling

yeah, not a big fan of how they cover up the entire engine with plastic panels, not as bad as acura with the TL, they basically covered everything with several big pieces of plastic to cover everything up.



I like how BMW does their engine bays:

any "covers" actually serve a purpose.

[Tiesto]

Audi does it best.

[BavarianAudi]

is-f engine without the cover on




i really like AMG covers

[davis449]

^^^ God I love how all the Japs always go for the "Pile of shit under the hood" look when it comes to engine bays. Not saying they're all crap, just saying that most Jap engine bays look like a fucking rat's nest.

[moses0324]

^^^yet they are known for being the most reliable and longest lasting...interesting

[marcus1701]

well the thing that ruined the IS-F was that the styling for the normal IS is already pretty bold with big wheel arches and an aggressive front. Trying to make it look more mean caused it to look like an aftermarket body kit.

[NewEnglandRS]

IS-F = Worst in class

[MacDaddy]

I just see a ton of crap ready to fail looking at that IS-F engine!

i know the RX300's have lots of electrical problems, when the Japanese try to do fancy electrical stuff they fail.

If Toyota tried to do what BMW does with the 7 series, they would have alot more problems than BMW ever will.

[cerfus]

^ Hyundai Genesis..I'll take that over an S550/750li/A8 ya ok, It looks good, but not that good, still looking at 40k+ all said and done.

[B6_Rakete]

I'm sorry, but the IS-F's stacked tail pipes is the dumbest looking setup I've seen, aside from maybe:



or...

[moses0324]

well the thing that ruined the IS-F was that the styling for the normal IS is already pretty bold with big wheel arches and an aggressive front. Trying to make it look more mean caused it to look like an aftermarket body kit.

i 100% agree...the regular IS is very bold and agressive. To make the IS-F all that much bolder, it actually came out worse...I do like the sidevents, wheels, brakes, suspension, engine, and interior...but something about the exterior design....the front is just ouch

[Onese1f]

i really like AMG covers

C63's are absolute monsters.

[BavarianAudi]

C63's are absolute monsters.

um thats a cl63

[MacDaddy]

^ Hyundai Genesis..I'll take that over an S550/750li/A8 ya ok, It looks good, but not that good, still looking at 40k+ all said and done.

Genesis looks pretty good car overall, never driven one.

I'd get a jaguar XJR before the S class, the 7series or the A8. Its true to what its suppose to be, goes like a stabbed rat and IMO nothing short of a Rolls Royce has the presence of a Jag.

[Onese1f]

um thats a cl63

Oh! My apologies

They both look the same from that angle

[Tiesto]

^^^yet they are known for being the most reliable and longest lasting...interesting

Oh really? Check out this thread: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...92#post2944992

[moses0324]

Oh really? Check out this thread: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...92#post2944992

Are you honestly comparing all german cars vs. one japanese car...Especially a japanese car that was just released...Give me a break

Audi's are more reliable than Lexus too right??? Get real...

[Raudi 4.2]

i dont mind the is-f... it has good performance numbers... chicks dig it... and it looks good... in person. id still rather have a german sports sedan like an rs-4 or c-63 or m-twee

[BavarianAudi]

it has good performance numbers...

both the M3 and the c63 outperform it, it was funny listening to jdm fan boys talking about how the isf was going to be japan's answer to the m3 and now they dont even mention the isf anymore

[Raudi 4.2]

both the M3 and the c63 outperform it, it was funny listening to jdm fan boys talking about how the isf was going to be japan's answer to the m3 and now they dont even mention the isf anymore

im sure they do... but it still has good performance numbers... i wouldnt mind having one.

[moses0324]

^^^wait where does it say the M3 outperforms the IS-F in everything

as far as I know the IS-F outperformed the M3 in traps, breaking, and the IS-F beat the M3 around the cones...where's ur source

I know the IS-F is faster in a straight line than an M3...I have seen it proven in person

[biggygo]

I'm on the fence about the overall styling, but the double stacked exhaust is just silly (and non-functional...Ferrari is actually going to ass-rape one of their new models with the double stacked exhaust, too - BOOO!)

I saw an IS-F this week right next to me on the road and the first thing that struck me was the beautiful color of the car - I believe it's called "Matador Red Mica" (at least that's Lexus' name for their stock red...if this car wasn't custom painted, I have to say that the Matador Red one helluva nice color! Maybe that's why I'm on the fence...

[p1nk50ck]

I'm sorry, but the IS-F's stacked tail pipes is the dumbest looking setup I've seen, aside from maybe:

you know that the stacked tailpipes are fake, right? if you look under the rear bumper (or even through the stacked pipes) you'll see that it's just part of the bumper. the real exhaust ends before the bumper, and the pipes are just for show.


i'm a huge toyota fan, and the IS-F was a great direction to move toyota into the high performance luxury division, but i think they failed miserably in execution. i'd much rather save my money and get an is350 and mod the crap out of it with the leftover money.

[Raudi 4.2]

^^^wait where does it say the M3 outperforms the IS-F in everything

as far as I know the IS-F outperformed the M3 in traps, breaking, and the IS-F beat the M3 around the cones...where's ur source

I know the IS-F is faster in a straight line than an M3...I have seen it proven in person

im not the one who said that the m3 outperforms it... what i did see was a vid pairing it up against the rs-4 and if im not mistaken... it out performed that... ouch....BUT in my opinion, this video has a bias mood to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO9_9xdwWWc

and hers a vid of the m3 not really beating the is-f http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDL5hiEMto

[anpk05]

the IS-F out performed the RS4, im trying to look for that video (if anybdy have seen that video), that's pretty impressive.

[cerfus]

Theres a japanese video of 4 cars racing, IS350 IS-F E90 M3 sedan and another, I think it was an RS4, but the M3 pulls out for first and the ISF gets second. The M with out a doubt will out preform the IS in most categories except for maybe the 0-60 and 1/4 mile but when it comes to handling its not much, both the RS4 and M3 in this video were hugging its tail the whole time.

heres one I just found with the M3, ISf, Nismo 350z, and S2k i cant find the original video that I saw with the RS though..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2J_m94erQA

[BavarianAudi]

^^^wait where does it say the M3 outperforms the IS-F in everything

as far as I know the IS-F outperformed the M3 in traps, breaking, and the IS-F beat the M3 around the cones...where's ur source

I know the IS-F is faster in a straight line than an M3...I have seen it proven in person

here from motortrend

[moses0324]

^^^ok maybe in track times

thats not in 0-60 etc...

[BavarianAudi]

^^^ok maybe in track times

thats not in 0-60 etc...

here you go
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130400


so far i've posted two seperate sources that show the m3 being faster even though it's the 4 door m3 (2 door is faster) now show me 1 where the isf is faster

[moses0324]

I have seen it in person on several ocassions...Sorry

Both drivers were equally experienced and actually switched cars. Lexus was still faster

[moses0324]

say it aint so, car and driver deemed BMW the victor again...C&D is so biased its almost unremarkable

[KiloByte]

I have seen it in person on several ocassions...Sorry

Both drivers were equally experienced and actually switched cars. Lexus was still faster

Sorry but I trust C&D and Motortrend over someone's non substantiated claims on a forum.

[moses0324]

^^^ to each his own

[BavarianAudi]

bottom line is i would never pay that much for a lexus. much rather get a bimmer/audi/mercedes

[Raudi 4.2]

think about the future...
c-63= hand built engine... too complicated to supercharge.
m3= too expensive to supercharge
is-f= Japanese= uhhh... its Japanese
RS-4= awd... affordable supercharger might be coming out soon enough. i mean it IS a 4.2 ehhemmm awe/vf!!

[cerfus]

^and it's an audi and you have a tramendous bias towards it lol. ;)