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    35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

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    So, I've been looking at upgrading the stock 35W HIDs to a set of 55W HIDs from DDM. I've done a good amount of research (and searched here), but there's still one question that I have.

    My goal is to maintain the stock looking "whitish/hint of blue" color temperature. I know that the stock bulbs are 4300k, but from what I've read, the color temperature ratings are somewhat different for 55W kits.

    I've heard that I may need to step up to 5000k bulbs for the 55W kit, in order for it to look like the stock 35W 4300k because of the significant difference in lumen output provided by the 55W kit.

    Anybody have any insight about this? What is the equivalent of a 4300k 35W bulb for a 55W system?

    Thanks!

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    I think its the same dude...why should a difference in wattage increase the temp of the bulb?

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by tike0rz View Post
    I think its the same dude...why should a difference in wattage increase the temp of the bulb?
    Yeah, I guess it could be the same. But basing it on my not-too-extensive research, the theory is that 55W bulbs are so much brighter than 35W bulbs, the color tends to "whiten out." So, technically a 55W 4300k bulb will look whiter (brighter) than a 35W 4300k.

    Im just theorizing, though. You could be right.

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    I'm running a 55W 6000 watt bulb and it's the shit. Bright white, with light blue tinge around edges.
    AWE, GIAC, Stasis,KO4s, bla bla bla this is getting a bit ridiculous. I hope it will end soon.

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by tike0rz View Post
    I think its the same dude...why should a difference in wattage increase the temp of the bulb?
    BZZZZZZZZZT!

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    ^^^i agree. i think the color difference will show a tiny bit. but if i were you, i would get a new ballast to get the best out of these higher wattage bulbs
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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    i have the 55w kit DDM in my car with 5k bulbs, its a pure white over the yelowish stock 4300. if you want the white with a blue tint go 6k. I installed a 35w kit into my moms car with 5k blubs also and honestly i couldnt see much of a difference between the 55w.

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
    BZZZZZZZZZT!

    Wrong answer.
    LOL. Thanks, you pompous ass!

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by gaspeedracer View Post
    ^^^i agree. i think the color difference will show a tiny bit. but if i were you, i would get a new ballast to get the best out of these higher wattage bulbs
    Yeah, I am getting a new ballast. I'm planning on getting the super slim DDM ballast + their 55W bulbs. Just wanted to know which ones to choose.

    Thanks for the help guys! (any more opinions are welcome)

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    wait, so if I want to replace the bulbs (stock) for 6000k, can I just buy 55w bulbs or I have to purchase new 55w ballasts?
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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkness View Post
    wait, so if I want to replace the bulbs (stock) for 6000k, can I just buy 55w bulbs or I have to purchase new 55w ballasts?
    Just get 35W 6000k bulbs. Those will drop right in. If you want to go to a 55W system then yes, you have to upgrade the ballasts in order to get the full 55W.

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkness View Post
    wait, so if I want to replace the bulbs (stock) for 6000k, can I just buy 55w bulbs or I have to purchase new 55w ballasts?
    I'd like to know this too! And where I can get them the cheapest!

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris.mcneal View Post
    I'd like to know this too! And where I can get them the cheapest!
    http://www.ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html

    Check there.

    Remember guys, if you put a 55W bulb into a 35W socket, it's only going to deliver 35 Watts, not the 55 Watts required by the bulb. There are as many color temps out there for 35W as there are for 55W (actually, there are probably more for 35W, as it's the OEM wattage for all American HID systems)

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    I run the Apexcone 55watt kit. I have their 5k setup. Looks good, and is very bright with my e-codes.

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by GunSupplier View Post
    http://www.ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html

    Check there.

    Remember guys, if you put a 55W bulb into a 35W socket, it's only going to deliver 35 Watts, not the 55 Watts required by the bulb. There are as many color temps out there for 35W as there are for 55W (actually, there are probably more for 35W, as it's the OEM wattage for all American HID systems)
    i was told the DDM bulbs are 35/55 universal its the ballast that determines the output

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Sorry to bring the thread back to life, but wouldn't slapping a 55 watt ballast where a 35 watt one was be potentially dangerous? Like melting the wires or starting a fire?

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    Quote Originally Posted by GunSupplier View Post
    http://www.ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html

    Check there.

    Remember guys, if you put a 55W bulb into a 35W socket, it's only going to deliver 35 Watts, not the 55 Watts required by the bulb. There are as many color temps out there for 35W as there are for 55W (actually, there are probably more for 35W, as it's the OEM wattage for all American HID systems)
    From that website, you can get the entire HID kit for just $75? Why does that seem insanely low?

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    Re: 35W vs. 55W HID Color Temp?

    I know it seems to good to be true but other have posted good reviews about DDM HID stuff. I want to get the 55w slim kit and use the stock oem hid ballast and modify them for the fogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunSupplier View Post
    So, I've been looking at upgrading the stock 35W HIDs to a set of 55W HIDs from DDM. I've done a good amount of research (and searched here), but there's still one question that I have.

    My goal is to maintain the stock looking "whitish/hint of blue" color temperature. I know that the stock bulbs are 4300k, but from what I've read, the color temperature ratings are somewhat different for 55W kits.

    I've heard that I may need to step up to 5000k bulbs for the 55W kit, in order for it to look like the stock 35W 4300k because of the significant difference in lumen output provided by the 55W kit.

    Anybody have any insight about this? What is the equivalent of a 4300k 35W bulb for a 55W system?

    Thanks!
    even though 55w hids are more brighter than 35w hids but they generate more heat....
    and 55w kits tend to wash out some of the color of the HID bulb due to the light output. For example, a 55w 8000k will look similar in color to a 35w 6000k kit.

    so if your stock 35w 43k hid, the equivalent of it might be 5k or 6k... maybe 6k is better for your whitish/hint of blue brightness.....
    anyhow, it only matters whether you use 55w ballast or 35w ballast...if you use 35w bulbs in 55w ballast, the color temperature and brightness are not good as 55w bulbs...so you'd better choose 55w bulbs with 55w ballast hid kit http://www.vvme.com

    i run vvme H3 6k 55w hid kit for my fog lights for almost one year... yes, it is very bright and sharp...

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    I agree, if you are going to 55w kit that 6k is about the best output as far color and lumens. I ran both the 55w 5k & 6k DDM in my bimmer and the 6k was a lot better output and color temp for the 55w kit. It would light the road up like Ft. Knox!

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    I just installed the 55watt 6000k kit from DDM into my Depo Ecodes this weekend and the color temp is very white

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    Quote Originally Posted by therealet23 View Post
    I just installed the 55watt 6000k kit from DDM into my Depo Ecodes this weekend and the color temp is very white
    Yea I almost miss that color and output. I may do this as well when I get some Ecodes. Just be sure to adjust them accordingly.

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    do I need any adjuster cables/error readers/hid harnesses when ordering from ddm tuning

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    If you order the D2S kit then no. If you change to h7 then you will need to splice into your factory wiring. You should not get any errors but if you choose a higher (55w) kit I suggest that you get a relay and bump up your headlamp fuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqitis View Post
    If you order the D2S kit then no. If you change to h7 then you will need to splice into your factory wiring. You should not get any errors but if you choose a higher (55w) kit I suggest that you get a relay and bump up your headlamp fuses.
    I didn't need anything. Just installed the ballasts and bulbss many DIYs on here show and plugged it in and it worked. Just needed to use the factory turn signal bulb and holder. I will upgrade the headlight fuses sometime. If I could do it again, I might consider the d2s depos as the h7 depos dont spread the beam very wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqitis View Post
    If you order the D2S kit then no. If you change to h7 then you will need to splice into your factory wiring. You should not get any errors but if you choose a higher (55w) kit I suggest that you get a relay and bump up your headlamp fuses.
    This is uninformed advice.

    Any time you "bump up" fuses you run the risk of melting wires or in severe cases causing a fire. NEVER replace a fuse with one bigger than the factory fuse.

    Also, there is no need to "bump up" fuses if you're using relays, champ.
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    This thread was very helpful. I appreciate all the knowledge Audizine provides. Now I know exactly which bulbs to purchase for my car.
    + 1 for searching.

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    I just installed the 3000k 35w kit in my fogs and works awesome with my 4500k 55w headlamps. I do have to agree with others that the 6000k is likely the way to go if you are wanting a true white call. The 4500k does have some yellow to it. I actually have a pair of 6000k that I need to installed. The bulbs from DDM work for with the 35w to 55w. In case there was any confusion there.

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    Anyone had any issues with the 55w hid kit?

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