Possible to achieve low 5 (seconds) 0-60 time?

[briboy9989]

on a b7 tiptronic quattro?

What type of mods would be needed?

[s4raf88]

You should search first....

From what you posted this is the person you want to talk to, and the mods needed, this is to start you of.....

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...hlight=results

[briboy9989]

You should search first....

From what you posted this is the person you want to talk to, and the mods needed, this is to start you of.....

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...hlight=results

I have already searched, and that's one of the first threads I looked at. I remember in another thread, he said he hit just under 5 seconds (rs4 territory). I just don't see how that's possible with the setup he has.

[b6onboost]

^ its not. see post #64 of that thread. he admits that his best time was a 14.429, not the 13.8xx he originally claimed.

BTW S4s run ~13.5 and RS4s and break 13 flat.

so to answer the question, to get a B7 0-60 in the low 5 second range, you'll need a turbo upgrade and full supporting mods.

[briboy9989]

^ its not. see post #64 of that thread. he admits that his best time was a 14.429, not the 13.8xx he originally claimed.

BTW S4s run ~13.5 and RS4s and break 13 flat.

so to answer the question, to get a B7 0-60 in the low 5 second range, you'll need a turbo upgrade and full supporting mods.

I'm not referring to that thread.

Look at the #1 post here - http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221718

[b6onboost]

I mean, yeah that's the claim. However if his car ran well at the track and only put down a 14.4xx then there is no way it does 0-60 in ~5 seconds.

Normally cars that hit 60 in ~5 seconds post low 13.xx 1/4 mile times.

So to hit those times you'll need a turbo upgrade, a GTRS, 28RS, 2876r, ect. I don't think a K04 would cut it.

I'm not referring to that thread.

Look at the #1 post here - http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221718

[Auditude2.0T]

A K04 puts down 340HP APR Claim, 340tq. The A4 is lighter, and the same HP and more torque than an S4 so less than 5 seconds is very possible on a A4. My 4.9 was on a very hard launch. My 60' time is 1.919 and could get better so that shows you how my acceleration is down low.

[a4dc89]

It is possible, but not without some work. ^look at Auditude2.0T

But for most consistent results, go aftermarket turbo kit.

[Kevin2772]

You sure its completely necessary for a full turbo kit upgrade. According to APR the 93 tune chip makes 292lb-ft of torque. Since torque will launch you off the line, thats more more torque then my E46 M3 was making. That should get you pretty good acceleration increases in itself. Problem is as you get to the higher RPMS, the lack of hp from that kit will make you feel a substantial drop off after 5500 rpms. Not trying to prove anyone wrong, I just feel that a low 5 seconds shouldnt be THAT hard to attain.

[Sanjman]

You sure its completely necessary for a full turbo kit upgrade. According to APR the 93 tune chip makes 292lb-ft of torque. Since torque will launch you off the line, thats more more torque then my E46 M3 was making. That should get you pretty good acceleration increases in itself. Problem is as you get to the higher RPMS, the lack of hp from that kit will make you feel a substantial drop off after 5500 rpms. Not trying to prove anyone wrong, I just feel that a low 5 seconds shouldnt be THAT hard to attain.

don't forget that is torque at the flywheel... you are comparing apples to oranges and the bottom line is what kind of power goes to the wheels... nevertheless you are again comparing a quattro versus RWD in which case the AWD will have susbstantial drivetrain loss. I suggest you read all threads on this stuff... you will learn so much from AZ... you just gotta go back and read it all.

and by the way... we have been hearing stories from way back in the day so we are positive to what we say. Learn from the mistakes and make your car better.. Go BT if you want a 5 second car.

[Kevin2772]

don't forget that is torque at the flywheel... you are comparing apples to oranges and the bottom line is what kind of power goes to the wheels... nevertheless you are again comparing a quattro versus RWD in which case the AWD will have susbstantial drivetrain loss. I suggest you read all threads on this stuff... you will learn so much from AZ... you just gotta go back and read it all.

and by the way... we have been hearing stories from way back in the day so we are positive to what we say. Learn from the mistakes and make your car better.. Go BT if you want a 5 second car.

No i understand all of that, just asking a question. To be perfectly honest, it makes zero sense to me to dump the amount of money into these cars just to make it a 5 second car. A 5 second car is anything but fast in todays standards. To dump an additional 10G's into a car and have it be not as fast as many cars in its class just seems worthless. Audi's are anything but a reliable car and all these aftermarket parts I cant imagine make them any more reliable. I chipped mine because the car is slow as shit without it. The chip makes it bearable. I just got tired of having to white knuckle it home anytime there was a heavy rain or snow.

[Ewok_Fetus]

Or you could buy a Charger/Magnum/300C with a Hemi and get mid to high 4's on about 1/4 the price of modding...

[Kevin2772]

Or you could buy a Charger/Magnum/300C with a Hemi and get mid to high 4's on about 1/4 the price of modding...

Exactly my point...although not really my choice of cars. My thought would have been a new or used 335I without the mods is already there and the same price. Xi if you want the AWD. Then of course there are the EVO's, the STI's and all the other rice rockets that will smoke you at half the cost and NO mods whatsoever.

[excelT4]

http://www.mjbmotorsport.com/sitebui...medatabase.htm

definitely possible, but most of the low 14/ high 13 runs were with a 6MT, and if you can't drive worth a crap you won't even be able to get an RS4 into the low 5s. Trying to measure any car's capability without an expert driver is a little silly IMO, so just because Auditude didn't get there with all his mods doesn't mean it's not possible -- no offense to Auditude, your car rocks! :)

[kooltechie]

A K04 puts down 340HP APR Claim, 340tq. The A4 is lighter, and the same HP and more torque than an S4 so less than 5 seconds is very possible on a A4. My 4.9 was on a very hard launch. My 60' time is 1.919 and could get better so that shows you how my acceleration is down low.

hey, Pete.
I think it's time you let go of the claim that your A4 runs 4.9 sec 0-60.
just as you did not make it under 14 sec 1/4 miles with all the mods you've got, your car doesn't seem to have the kind of capability to achieve 4.9 sec 0-60.
how many cars do you know that runs 4.9 sec 0-60 and mid 14's for 1/4 miles?
I'm not trying to start an argument here, but I think it's about time to have a reality check.

[Ewok_Fetus]

hey, Pete.
I think it's time you let go of the claim that your A4 runs 4.9 sec 0-60.
just as you did not make it under 14 sec 1/4 miles with all the mods you've got, your car doesn't seem to have the kind of capability to achieve 4.9 sec 0-60.
how many cars do you know that runs 4.9 sec 0-60 and mid 14's for 1/4 miles?
I'm not trying to start an argument here, but I think it's about time to have a reality check.

Just want to know how he measured it exactly... G-tech FTL...

[extremesport3]

well if i may interject here. Pete may be off slightly however i do not think he is far off. I would venture to guess my car is about 5-5.2 0-60. granted i have alittle more power i would say a maxed out k03 can run to 60 in the 5.2-5.5 range. the stock car according to car and driver runs a 6.5 0-60 time so i would think with all the mods a second would be very attainable. The transmission issue i am not sure about because i have not driven a tip car with mods. Can someone else do a test of there 60 times? that way we have something to compare it to? I will try out mine as soon as i get a minute.

JD

[Sanjman]

No i understand all of that, just asking a question. To be perfectly honest, it makes zero sense to me to dump the amount of money into these cars just to make it a 5 second car. A 5 second car is anything but fast in todays standards. To dump an additional 10G's into a car and have it be not as fast as many cars in its class just seems worthless. Audi's are anything but a reliable car and all these aftermarket parts I cant imagine make them any more reliable. I chipped mine because the car is slow as shit without it. The chip makes it bearable. I just got tired of having to white knuckle it home anytime there was a heavy rain or snow.

so why are you on this forum and why are you reading the thread related to a faster car... shouldn't you be hanging out in the chatterbox or reading upon what you can do in case anything breaks?

overall... it's called a hobby for some and it's called a profession to others... modifying cars, making them go faster, letting all the potential out that a car can be makes a man feel good.

I think pete's car being automatic is a limitation... but I think he can hit his 4.9 at some point.

[agorich]

true. its all in good fun. I am very interested in performing mods once i can afford it a little more. I just moved to another state and have to find a place to stay and everything. I have decided to chip asap though. GIAC ftw. word.

[Bmeister]

Fastest way to get a great 0-60 is to install a lower (numerically higher) set of gears in both differentials and ensure your Tiptronic transmission is programmed for the fastest possible shifts. This will, of course, lower your highway fuel economy and provide some additional wear & tear on the engine over time, but you will get sub-5sec 0-60 times if that is your end-all goal...and it won't cost a fortune.

[Sanjman]

Fastest way to get a great 0-60 is to install a lower (numerically higher) set of gears in both differentials and ensure your Tiptronic transmission is programmed for the fastest possible shifts.

thanks for stating the obvious... i don't think he is just going for achieving 0-60... especially since 0-60 doesn't even come close to hitting all your gears... but he has his goals set, so let him be.

[Bmeister]

thanks for stating the obvious... i don't think he is just going for achieving 0-60... especially since 0-60 doesn't even come close to hitting all your gears... but he has his goals set, so let him be.

It was so obvious, nobody else mentioned it. Thank you for sharing your intellect.

[davis449]

Also, the talk of K04 in these threads can be confusing and misleading. The "K04" that people like Auditude2.0T talk about isn't really a K04 at all. It's a Garrett Turbo setup in R&D by APR currently. They have it available for the transverse (VW GTI, Audi A3) 2.0T engine right now and 340 HP is the crank dyno on that. Fast as shit in those cars because they are FWD and don't have near the drive train loss of a Quattro A4.

The k04 most commonly referred to in this particular forum was the stock turbo from a S3 that's slightly bigger than the stock K03 turbo on the 2.0T engine. That particular turbo was never fully tuned for the longitudinal mount engine in the A4 and thus, doesn't put down $5000 worth of HP gains.

[tech_frog]

Not worth it.

I just came out of a C55 into the A4 (by choice). No way you are going to get an A4 close to a 5 second car without adding $10K. Not worth it. Go buy a used C55 or S4.

C55 was a BLAST!

[Cargo8]

Get an S4