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    Veteran Member Three Rings awdbiturbo's Avatar
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    Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

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    I want to rebuild my transmission over the winter but while its out and all apart i would like to build it up a bit. Any thoughts or ideas as to what can be done to make these transmissions stronger, smoother, better? I know i want to cryo my gears for strength and REM micro polished for smoothness, are there any other things that can be done to make this tranny better??
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    I think all that cryo treatment is a waste of money .. wouldnt invest in that .. the stock tranny will hold really high hp as is .. I would buy the upgraded syncros/clips ect from JHM though
    bye bye AWE Stg 3+ and HeLLooOo ........

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    Veteran Member Three Rings awdbiturbo's Avatar
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    I think all that cryo treatment is a waste of money .. wouldnt invest in that .. the stock tranny will hold really high hp as is .. I would buy the upgraded syncros/clips ect from JHM though
    The upgraded kit jay sells is all oem its better but not race car hero satus
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by awdbiturbo View Post
    The upgraded kit jay sells is all oem its better but not race car hero satus
    Well I would rather spend around $1000 for his upgrade instead of a tranny like Stasis thats going to cost you $5000
    bye bye AWE Stg 3+ and HeLLooOo ........

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    BUMP!

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    what do you even get thats so special from stasis?
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    rub n' tugs.

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    im going to be rebuilding a tranny soon and plan to go with a cryo rem treatment ... its pretty expensive so i might just do it to 1-2-3 gears
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcjustin View Post
    what do you even get thats so special from stasis?
    Nothing.
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    ASP has cryo treated their tranny iirc on that red gt car. Call them they would know more.

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    ASP has cryo treated their tranny iirc on that red gt car. Call them they would know more.
    Yes that is true mark does have his tranny pimped
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    did you get any quotes on how much cryo REMing everything is? or even a place willing to talk to you? i emailed a couple places just by finding them through google, but no reply - a phone call would probably be more effective with those types of companies ...
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    Veteran Member Three Rings awdbiturbo's Avatar
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by DxC View Post
    did you get any quotes on how much cryo REMing everything is? or even a place willing to talk to you? i emailed a couple places just by finding them through google, but no reply - a phone call would probably be more effective with those types of companies ...

    I have connections with cryo and working on REM coating. I have a shop in leominster so once i find out a short drive from Boston and we could get it done together...
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    The trannys are stout in these cars. I have 130k of pure abuse on mine. My videos of launching and racing only show a fraction of what my trans has been through. My car has been stage 3 since 40k miles as well. The only thing I did was rebuild it with the contents of my kit at 89k miles.

    My transmission still shifts smoothly. However I do notice that on some rebuilds 1st gear tends to show some wear and pitting, more than any other gear. So when it is apart hardening or cryo treating would probably help reduce wear and longevity. I think the stock gears are up to 500+whp with no issues or even more if you don't beat on it hard. Also hardening tends to be a good idea when road racing since the gears and gear oil get nice and hot and used longer than normal.

    Until I take my trans apart I can't tell you how well it has held up for sure since it is quiet and still shifts good. But I would bet that the gears are pretty beat at this point.

    Bottom line, hardening and or cryo treating gears is probably NOT needed for 90+% of S4 owners from what I have personally seen.

    In my car I have sheared in half 3 front axles, twisted another and blew my rear differential to pieces internally and I still have the basically original 130k mile trans. I have had other customers break stuff, but never a trans yet (other than the 1-2 shift collar). Knock on wood.

    Hope this info and first hand experience helps with your decision.

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    ASP has cryo treated their tranny iirc on that red gt car. Call them they would know more.
    They can also send out your parts to get cryo treated. I may have 1st through 3rd gears done when my 1.8 trans is apart this winter.
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    Stage 2 Banner Advertiser Four Rings jaybquick@JHM's Avatar
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    They can also send out your parts to get cryo treated. I may have 1st through 3rd gears done when my 1.8 trans is apart this winter.
    Actually all you need to do is find any local heat treating or cryo treating place and give it to them. There is no special secret, just knowing where to send it, look online and in your lcoal yellow pages. They charge you by weight as well.

    If you take it to any shop they will just be sending it to one of these places and marking it up.

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaybquick@JHM View Post
    Actually all you need to do is find any local heat treating or cryo treating place and give it to them. There is no special secret, just knowing where to send it, look online and in your lcoal yellow pages. They charge you by weight as well.

    If you take it to any shop they will just be sending it to one of these places and marking it up.
    true, you know Mark will charge you up the ass doug
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4_20T View Post
    true, you know Mark will charge you up the ass doug
    Excuse me? How about Doug calls me first and asks me about the process and costs, rather you making dumb ass comments.

    As an FYI we normally charge $1000 for the ENTIRE trans to be cryo and REM coated, keep in mind certain parts can not be REM treated, but the shafts, selecters, syncros, gears, hubs... all benefit from the process.

    If you can handle the teardown and rebuild, go for it do it yourself .

    Most people don't like to mess around with gear boxes and dont even have the proper tools to do it correctly.

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark@AutoSpeed View Post
    Excuse me? How about Doug calls me first and asks me about the process and costs, rather you making dumb ass comments.

    As an FYI we normally charge $1000 for the ENTIRE trans to be cryo and REM coated, keep in mind certain parts can not be REM treated, but the shafts, selecters, syncros, gears, hubs... all benefit from the process.

    If you can handle the teardown and rebuild, go for it do it yourself .

    Most people don't like to mess around with gear boxes and dont even have the proper tools to do it correctly.
    fair enough, thats a good price... all I was saying is that you guys arent cheap
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    Nothing.
    prove it or stop flapping your gums

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by JaredVL View Post
    prove it or stop flapping your gums
    Dont get offended because you work there .. most of your prices and products are junk
    Last edited by ToMMyRsK04; 10-06-2008 at 06:19 PM.
    bye bye AWE Stg 3+ and HeLLooOo ........

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    Dont get offended because you work there .. most of your prices and products are junk
    I work where?

    retard.

    I will be the first to say that a few things from stasis suck, such as streetsports if you want performance. but you are a damn fool if you think that "most of your (stasis's) prices and products are junk"

    Plus for your information the prices on their stuff hasnt been raised in like 5 years despite continually rising material and operations costs. So they have stayed more than fair on price and to say the actual products are whack shows me once again that you are a gigantic toolbag.

    Go jerk it to your pretend car, hahaha

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    LOL.


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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by JaredVL View Post
    I work where?

    retard.

    I will be the first to say that a few things from stasis suck, such as streetsports if you want performance. but you are a damn fool if you think that "most of your (stasis's) prices and products are junk"

    Plus for your information the prices on their stuff hasnt been raised in like 5 years despite continually rising material and operations costs. So they have stayed more than fair on price and to say the actual products are whack shows me once again that you are a gigantic toolbag.

    Go jerk it to your pretend car, hahaha

    Their prices havent gone up in the past 5 years because thats how long theyve been overcharging ppl you moron .. $5000 for a tranny rebuild ?? You must be retarded

    And the cars not pretend stupid .. you'll know why it wasnt out when its done .. but thanks
    bye bye AWE Stg 3+ and HeLLooOo ........

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    Their prices havent gone up in the past 5 years because thats how long theyve been overcharging ppl you moron .. $5000 for a tranny rebuild ?? You must be retarded

    And the cars not pretend stupid .. you'll know why it wasnt out when its done .. but thanks
    trans rebuild is $2899, get your facts straight

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    Re: Who here has expierence with micro polishing gear sets and cryoing them as well?

    i know this thread/port is dead, but can yall keep beefing please?

    by far the most entertaining ish on here.

    Thanks in advance!
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