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    is the tip chip really worth 500$, are the shifts really as clean as giac says? if anybody has 1/4 mile times stock vs stock w/ tip chip please let me know .....dont want to waste 500 dollars

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    Re: tip chip

    I Have a tip chip, made my car shift a lil faster in Drive, If i had it to do over again i would still get it> if $ is an issue just do the recode to hold fisrt gear ( tip chip dosent do that) and you will be happy. It takes 5 min to do with ross tech,. But you may hit limp mode for the trans a lilttle less with it if you are putting down stronge rthan stock power at the wheels,
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    Re: tip chip

    aaron just chip the ecu and forget the tip chip
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    Re: tip chip

    tip chip only makes the kick down mode faster but if you shifting in tip mode it doesnt make the shifts faster-- tensecs4 told me that.

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    Re: tip chip

    that's not exactly true... marc has been in my car and he expressed to me how he didn't feel that the shift speed was increased, but I've spent more time in tip S4's than he has (both with and without the tip chip) and I can assure you there is a difference. I'm currently looking to get rid of my tip chip (I'm returning the car to stock and selling it) incase anyone is interested in trading a stock tcu + cash.

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    Re: tip chip

    Mike at Unitronic is supposed to find the way to make them shift faster and higher RPMs. I'll keep you guys tunes about this. I don't believe that it's a shift time issue but lock up engagement issue. L/U needs to be engaged faster and that would help alot more. I have an IPt v/b n t/c. I can feel a good clamping force but still needs to be faster.

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    Re: tip chip

    i programmed in 00032 with a guys vag-com at the last audi meet, shifts much smoother, and the transmission is more responive, i don't have to go down almost to the kick down switch for it to drop a gear anymore.

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by MacDaddy View Post
    i programmed in 00032 with a guys vag-com at the last audi meet, shifts much smoother, and the transmission is more responive, i don't have to go down almost to the kick down switch for it to drop a gear anymore.
    I'm also running with that 00032 code and don't like it. It seems to down shift too easilly from 5th to 4 in tip mode.

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    how much for the tip chip if i trade you my stock one? Im also located in jersey and can meet right up with you.

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by Reich View Post
    I'm also running with that 00032 code and don't like it. It seems to down shift too easilly from 5th to 4 in tip mode.
    I've heard about the 00032 recode (some people like it, some don't) and I can't believe nobody has found a way to get the Tip to hold 1st gear until you want to shift (or red-line, whichever comes first). Even with the 00032 recode, I hear it just lets you hold 1st a bit longer, and 1st kicks in a little easier, but I'm still not satisfied. I got so excited when I heard about the 00032 recode like 6 months ago, until I learned that it barely does anything.

    It's gotta be a software coding issue, no? There's gotta be someone somewhere that knows how to get the Tip to hold 1st, just like it holds 2nd-5th.

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    Re: tip chip

    I forgot witch recode i went with but it was teh one from S4biturbo.com the old one and mine works great, I can hold first all the way untill i shift or if I let off the gas in first it will shift, th esite is down right know so I can't look it up at the moment, but I will try to scan her tonight or over the weekend and tell you guys what it is,
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    Re: tip chip

    Hey vorsprung00s4, how much do you want for the tip chip if i give you my stock tcu?

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    Re: tip chip

    don't waste $ on the tip chip it won't give you any advantages in 1/4mile. Just do the 00032 recode.

    There's nothing you can do to hold first gear and hits the rev limiter. This is a protection issue and even if it does have something can reprograme the current setting, I woudn't risk it.
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    Re: tip chip

    thanks for the info.

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    Re: tip chip

    so where and how do i get the ooo32 recode? how much is it?

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by B5S4 View Post
    so where and how do i get the ooo32 recode? how much is it?
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    Re: tip chip

    is there a shift kit or stall speed converter for these cars ('06 s4 cab B6) i was able to do for my old 'stang. doesnt seem like much to do to get these tips off the line. harris

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by hdariotisj View Post
    is there a shift kit or stall speed converter for these cars ('06 s4 cab B6) i was able to do for my old 'stang. doesnt seem like much to do to get these tips off the line. harris
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    Re: tip chip

    is it something you order or can i go somewhere i live an hour from chicago is there a place near?

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    Re: tip chip

    theres no point in changing the valve body, the line pressure is electronically controlled.

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by GunSupplier View Post
    I've heard about the 00032 recode (some people like it, some don't) and I can't believe nobody has found a way to get the Tip to hold 1st gear until you want to shift (or red-line, whichever comes first). Even with the 00032 recode, I hear it just lets you hold 1st a bit longer, and 1st kicks in a little easier, but I'm still not satisfied. I got so excited when I heard about the 00032 recode like 6 months ago, until I learned that it barely does anything.

    It's gotta be a software coding issue, no? There's gotta be someone somewhere that knows how to get the Tip to hold 1st, just like it holds 2nd-5th.
    This is what Mike is trying to figure out. I might go to see him in two or three weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reich View Post
    This is what Mike is trying to figure out. I might go to see him in two or three weeks.
    I hope he does. Keep us posted, I'm quite interested in seeing if someone out there will figure it out.

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by changs4 View Post
    don't waste $ on the tip chip it won't give you any advantages in 1/4mile. Just do the 00032 recode.

    There's nothing you can do to hold first gear and hits the rev limiter. This is a protection issue and even if it does have something can reprograme the current setting, I woudn't risk it.
    do you have a tip chip or is this just your opinion? I can hold 1st gear to red-line with my tip chip and recoding.

    Quote Originally Posted by 00s4slvr View Post
    Hey vorsprung00s4, how much do you want for the tip chip if i give you my stock tcu?
    I'm looking to get $200 + shipping

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by vorsprung00s4 View Post
    do you have a tip chip or is this just your opinion? I can hold 1st gear to red-line with my tip chip and recoding.



    I'm looking to get $200 + shipping
    You can't hold first gear if you don't do the 00032 recode.
    I can hold first gear without Tip chip, it's just I do not see point of getting a tip chip.
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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by vorsprung00s4 View Post
    I can hold 1st gear to red-line with my tip chip and recoding.
    Quote Originally Posted by changs4 View Post
    I can hold first gear without Tip chip.
    Are we defining "holding 1st gear" strictly enough?

    I've never heard of the 00032 recode actually allowing full control of 1st gear. What I mean by "full control" is getting the Tiptronic to behave in 1st gear just like it does in 2nd-5th, where it allows gear holding at any throttle position.

    From everything that I've read about all the recodes and Tip chips, my understanding is that you still have to give it a significant amount of initial throttle (50% or more) for the transmission to let you utilize 1st from a stop (which is not what should happen in Tip mode). Then, when you're actually in 1st gear in Tip mode, if you let off the throttle a bit, the transmission will shift to 2nd, because it figures you don't "need" 1st anymore, even though you're far from red-line and all you did was let off the gas. It's almost as if the transmission never truly operates in Tip mode for the 1-2 shift, but does anytime else.

    That's exactly the behavior that I'm talking about, which seems to be so hard to cure for all the chip-makers, and VAG-COM pros.

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    Re: tip chip

    Quote Originally Posted by GunSupplier View Post
    From everything that I've read about all the recodes and Tip chips, my understanding is that you still have to give it a significant amount of initial throttle (50% or more) for the transmission to let you utilize 1st from a stop (which is not what should happen in Tip mode).
    it's not nearly 50% throttle, for me it'll always hold 1st gear while in tip mode (much longer than with stock coding). If I give it 50-100% throttle it'll hold all the way to redline, but considering how short first gear is, that's only needed when really getting on the car. If you let off the throttle it will shift to 2nd, but that's fine with me considering I have no need to hit red line in 1st unless i'm racing/driving really fast.

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    Re: tip chip

    vorsprung i pmed you about the tip chip... Im located in Nj and i can meet you and swap with you right then and there.

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    Re: tip chip

    00s4slvr - i'm at school in Massachussets but I'll be making a trip home one of these weekends, i'll PM you as soon as I know (otherwise you could send me the TCU and I could send you mine - it's probably easier to just wait till we could meet in person)

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    Re: tip chip

    here is what i used for my recode on my tip, hope this helps

    http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/142628.phtml
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    Re: tip chip

    ok just dont sell it to anyone else!!! im in school at scranton, Pa but i go home almost every weekend and i will be going home this weekend for my b-day plus we have fall break this weekend and part of next week. Just pm me when your gonna be back and want to meet in person.

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    Re: tip chip

    In my car, to hold 1st, i put it in tip mode, and floor it, and keep rapidly pushing the - on the wheel shifter, when it wants to early shift to 2nd the gear selector in the dash goes up to 2, but i constantly keep pushing the - on the steering wheel rapidly and it will then go back to 1. The trans never shifts to 2nd, just the little icon moves. Then it will hold first to redline when i tell it to shift up, even if I let off, it won't shift, it just engine brakes. Try it yourselves. You don't even have to floor the car to do this, I can do it at 1/4 throttle cruising through my neighborhood. I still wish I didn't have to rapidly push the downshift or pull the shifter back rapidly though, I thought the tip was a true auto/manual, but it's not perfect.

    That's the only way I have been able to hold 1st gear. It works great. Doesn't seem to hurt anything since you tell the computer to go back to 1st before it actually tries to shift the transmission.

    Fuck the tip chip, not worth the $500 for no gain. If you want harder shifts you need to increase the line pressure. The shift points can be adjusted if you could program the tcm. If you really want a bad ass tip, get the valve body mods and a 3500 rpm stall convertor. Then the car can launch with the turbos spooled. And the valve body mods will raise line pressure and stiffen the springs that control when the fluid gets re-routed down different corridors in the valve body.

    Electronic shift kit... please.
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