Suggestions for engine build..

[coran nariman]

Basically getting to the point.

i have to replace my head gasket.

Therefor at the same time i am going to go ahead with building the engine as i have always wanted to go big turbo but i do not want to gtrs.

My plans are not final yet.

i am making this post so that all you b6ers with built engines and what not can give me any advice/tips, on anything my options on what companies i can use, etc.

First off my goals are to accomplish 350-400 AWHP

Please give me your suggestions. on anything and everything

currently i am Revo stage 2, FMIC, magna-flow exhaust

[dougyfresh]

here we go again.....


Read this: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236852 (don't worry, it applies to b6s too, our motors are the 06A blocks... easier) Should answer most of your questions.

Parts can be found from many different sources. We can get into that later. Gotta figure out what your goals are to determine what gets done to your engine/car/system.

To meet those goals of 350-400awhp you're looking at upwards of $10k for everything.

[A4ringedONE8T]

Holy crap, these threads are getting worse than the BT threads, plus 1,000 more possibilities

[coran nariman]

money is not a issue i have all the money put away for this project for years now. i just have been waiting to see how everyone else's set ups have ran and what not.

i am planning on doing some port and polish work, changing the pistons and rods. seals etc. like i said before i don't want to run a BT setup and definitely want to spend the money on a BAT setup. I still not sure of what software i would use, i hear that unitronics has a good 630cc file.

I hear there is no need to change the cams on this car? as it makes no difference...

any advice anything would be great.

i am leaning towards copying a setup like Shawn's. just simply making the engine stronger.

And is it worth a 2.0 stroker?

If u make the walls thinner on the cylinder block is that not worse for us as we have boosted cars=lots of pressure

thanks so much guys i know there is lots of information on the forums, But there is not much on building engines and what not. What are our choices for pistons, rods etc...

My machine shop was telling me that with pistons and rods some port work and the right tune, we can get her at 350-400 and change easy.

[coran nariman]

shawn=A4ringedONE8T

[A4ringedONE8T]

shawn=A4ringedONE8T

If you want to start getting a list together, email me, [email protected] I'll gladly help you get your project done

[coran nariman]

Thanks soo much shawn that would be amazing!!! i will definitely send u a email shortly as my car is just sitting out of commission and i need to get it up and running lol.

ps i dont kno if you remember me from WaterFest........demi's buddy.

[dougyfresh]

money is not a issue i have all the money put away for this project for years now. i just have been waiting to see how everyone else's set ups have ran and what not.

i am planning on doing some port and polish work, changing the pistons and rods. seals etc. like i said before i don't want to run a BT setup and definitely want to spend the money on a BAT setup. I still not sure of what software i would use, i hear that unitronics has a good 630cc file.

I hear there is no need to change the cams on this car? as it makes no difference...

any advice anything would be great.

i am leaning towards copying a setup like Shawn's. just simply making the engine stronger.

And is it worth a 2.0 stroker?

If u make the walls thinner on the cylinder block is that not worse for us as we have boosted cars=lots of pressure

thanks so much guys i know there is lots of information on the forums, But there is not much on building engines and what not. What are our choices for pistons, rods etc...

My machine shop was telling me that with pistons and rods some port work and the right tune, we can get her at 350-400 and change easy.

The right tune will go very far. The majority of the B6 builds right now are running off-the-shelf tunes and (in my opinion) is holding them back from making big power.

2.0 is more displacement. More displacement inherently is more power and it helps with off-boost power and drivability.

There are a lot of B5 builds and a special forum dedicated to it: http://audizine.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=145. There are also a few B6 builds but most of them aren't really documented.

Camshafts help the engine breathe and increase mid-range and top-end power.





This is my configuration:

QED-Built 2.0L stroker
- (OEM) AMU (06A casting) block and cylinder head
- (OEM) AEG 92.8mm stroke crank
- Supertech 82.5mm bore forged pistons
- Scat forged connecting rods
- OEM main bearings
- OEM oil pump
- OEM timing belt kit w/ metal impeller water pump
- Supertech Inconel Exhaust valves
- Supertech valve guides
- OEM intake valves
- OEM hydraulic lifters
- Cat Cams 3651 camshafts
- Cat Cams adjustable cam gear
- basic valve seat grind/lap

Forced induction:
- Garrett GT2871R turbocharger
- ASP GT28RS hardware kit with manifold and downpipe ceramic coated
- ASP FMIC

Tuning:
- Custom Me7 tune by ASP (currently in process)

Original build thread is here: http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198330

Tuning will be done in a few weeks and I'll have power figures (dyno graphs) and will be going to the track (1/4mile) to back-up those power figures.


Everyone has their own opinions on what works and what doesn't work. So far, no one has stepped up to the plate with power figures and 1/4 mile times to back up their configurations. Its all up in the air as of today so I encourage you to search and around and do some reading before spending money.

[A4ringedONE8T]

Thanks soo much shawn that would be amazing!!! i will definitely send u a email shortly as my car is just sitting out of commission and i need to get it up and running lol.

ps i dont kno if you remember me from WaterFest........demi's buddy.

Demi? Who's that again? Sorry met too many people that weekend!!

[A4ringedONE8T]

Everyone has their own opinions on what works and what doesn't work. So far, no one has stepped up to the plate with power figures and 1/4 mile times to back up their configurations. Its all up in the air as of today so I encourage you to search and around and do some reading before spending money.

I'm going to hopefully get to the dyno next week. Already ran a half tank of Sunoco 100 in my car few weeks ago, got the EBC set for 32psi, and got timing settings figured out and logged. If it wasn't for the HRE ordeal I would have gone this week but my car budget was beyond spent last week on the tires for the S4 wheels. We'll see how my shit tune does for power, car sure didnt seem to mind it on the 32psi ..

[coran nariman]

haha i can imagine with a car like that:P hah umm we where talking to you about your water-meth kit and what not i dunno if that strikes a bell.

thanks doughy fresh i def will do so more re search but with all these school projects and mid-terms it gets hard hah.

ill be back in a few hours must go study and read for stupid class ahhhh i wish i was studying cars for a living ha

[dougyfresh]

shawn,
I never said your tune was 'shit'. I just said I don't personally believe it is maximizing your hardware configuration. I am glad to hear you are going to the dyno. You should bring Chris along with his car too.

[A4ringedONE8T]

shawn,
I never said your tune was 'shit'. I just said I don't personally believe it is maximizing your hardware configuration. I am glad to hear you are going to the dyno. You should bring Chris along with his car too.

I am not sure if Chris even got his issues straightened out. Last time I talked with him he was running next to no boost to keep his EGT's manageable. I'm also going to a 2wd dyno that Ive used before with my other setups.

[Don Supreme]

I hear there is no need to change the cams on this car? as it makes no difference...

Whoever told you that doesn't know what they are talking about.

[mike-2ptzero]

If u make the walls thinner on the cylinder block is that not worse for us as we have boosted cars=lots of pressure

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The walls on our 1.8 block are really thick with the 81mm stock bore. I have been running 83.5mm bore 2 stroker setup for 6 years now and been running 32psi for a few years now pushing over 600whp all on the stock block that came with the car from the factory almost 9 years ago.

[coran nariman]

hey mike-2ptzero what setup are u running..... pleaseeee:)

headaches u ran into with having a BAT setup for this long?

what should i expect?

thanks coran

[mike-2ptzero]

hey mike-2ptzero what setup are u running..... pleaseeee:)

headaches u ran into with having a BAT setup for this long?

what should i expect?

thanks coran

ATW block bored to 83.5 mm
ABA 2 liter crank
JE 8.5:1 Pistons
Pauter Rods
Ported AEB head
RaceWare heads
Schrick 252 cams
1mm over intake valves
Stock size exhaust valves
High lift, high rate valve-spring set with Titanium retainers
VR6 throttle body
Custom Intake Manifold