Custom Software

[Nikon44]

Anyone know if APR will do a custom tune for a GTRS kit, or if they have a tune for a GTRS kit? I have been searching threw their website for a bit and have not been able to find anything on it.

Sean

[Papachristou]

if you want to buy just their 3+ software, they want $1500-2000, they couldnt give me an exact price but $1500 would be the minimum they said...

[phantom b6]

I would get a custom tune for that price

[romell]

alaska? damn.. any aftermarket shops for audis up there?

[dougyfresh]

Any reason why you'd want a custom tune for a (stock internal) 1.8T with a GTRS? The REVO software seems to be tried and true since it was written for that hardware configuration.

The big seller on a custom tune is if you're hardware configuration is significantly 'out-of-the-box' from what the software was written for. [In my opinion: every B6 'BAT' build to date]

If your reasoning for APR software with a GTRS is because you'll loose $XXX (because you already paid for an APR stage 1 flash) when going with REVO software for the GTRS then you're SOL like everyone else that flashed their ecu and then went BT. One reason why I never found it worthwhile to flash my ECu with Sg1 software since my plan from the get-go was go put a 28RS on as my first engine mod to my car. Then a built motor [and stuff] was my next mod.

[AudiA4_20T]

seriously, theres no reason to get anything other than Revo for the GTRS, it works, its already on the limit of the stock motor, no need to reinvent the wheel

[Nikon44]

We have one performance shop up here and all the use is APR. My original intention was to only go to a K04-15 which APR has software for. Since the K04-15's are pretty much unobtainable, I have decided to go one step up.

My original reasoning for a custom APR tune was because it is what the shop here uses (APR). If REVO will do the job then by all means I have no issue spending extra money switching tunes. I was hoping for APR because the guys here could tune it if need be.

Sean

[dougyfresh]

My original reasoning for a custom APR tune was because it is what the shop here uses (APR). If REVO will do the job then by all means I have no issue spending extra money switching tunes. I was hoping for APR because the guys here could tune it if need be.

Sean

Sean,
That reasoning makes sense.

An alternative, albeit more costly: If you are die-hard set on APR it might behouve you to spend a little extra money for their 3+ kit. You'll then still be with APR and also have support from your local dealer should something come up (which is a big plus in rural areas).

Two very good products. Pros and Cons for each. It is all up to you in what you value highest on the list to sway your decision.

[Nikon44]

Doug,

My biggest concern is that I would prefer not to have to upgrade internals. That was my whole reasoning behind going with the k04-15 originally was I wanted a little more power but didn't want to move to the point where I am going to start replacing internal components.

I have been reading up on the GTRS and what I have read basicaly says that its about as far as you can push the stock internals. If this is not right please let me know. The extra power is always nice but I am not in demand of it.

Sean

[eclimax13]

^^^i love alaska..goin back up there soon

[dougyfresh]

Doug,

My biggest concern is that I would prefer not to have to upgrade internals. That was my whole reasoning behind going with the k04-15 originally was I wanted a little more power but didn't want to move to the point where I am going to start replacing internal components.

I have been reading up on the GTRS and what I have read basicaly says that its about as far as you can push the stock internals. If this is not right please let me know. The extra power is always nice but I am not in demand of it.

Sean

Sean,
With either the REVO/GTRS or the APR 3+ 'kits' you do not have to upgrade the internals. Some do as an extra piece of mind. Most do not. Both sets of software are designed to run safely on the stock engine internals. The only 'big' difference between the two kits, hardware-wise, is that the APR kit uses a T25 turbine inlet flange on the turbo whereas the GTRS uses the same turbine inlet as the stock turbo (which is a little restrictive).

APR runs solid and is a very durable solution that will last a long time. You can not make tweaks to the software (like add or subtract a few degrees of timing advance) effortlessly. I think it can be done but most users do not venture down that path. They install the kit and just run it as-is.

REVO runs solid [un-touched] on lower boost and timing settings (some REVO experts can chime in on that those are. I think its T5 with the SPS controller?). With the addition of a piece of software on your laptop called LemmiWinks you can adjust timing to suit your needs/level of comfort. Many users on this board have had REVO programming their GTRS' for many many miles. Many users go this route because it is cheaper and it gives them the flexibility to 'tweak' key software settings to suit their style (1/4 mile on race gas, hot day want to pull some timing out, cold day to run more timing, etc..).

I understand you are not looking for anything crazy while also not stressing your engine to the point of needing internal work. Have you spoken to your APR dealer about getting the APR Ko4 kit through APR? I wonder if APR has any available? Pardon me if you already did that.

[A4ringedONE8T]

Damn Doug, you're on the ball for him! Good info

[EBG 18T]

Personally I really like the APR K04 tune. it is pretty conservative when compared to some other out there. But it makes for a great daily driver for 'my' style. But still does well when i take it to the track.

A nice middle ground might be the AWE GT28 kit. It is middle of the road $$ wise. I know it still different than the APR. But is has more power than the K04 setup, but not as much the GTRS/E-Code/Revo stuff.

I think autobahn exotics had K04's in stock. atleast a couple weeks ago they did.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

You can use lemmiwinks to adjust timing on the APR software too.

[AudiA4_20T]

Doug,

My biggest concern is that I would prefer not to have to upgrade internals. That was my whole reasoning behind going with the k04-15 originally was I wanted a little more power but didn't want to move to the point where I am going to start replacing internal components.

I have been reading up on the GTRS and what I have read basicaly says that its about as far as you can push the stock internals. If this is not right please let me know. The extra power is always nice but I am not in demand of it.

Sean

You can blow the motor with both setups, it has been done. Plenty are still running fine though, it all comes down to keeping the car tuned reasonably and not pushing the limits

[dougyfresh]

Damn Doug, you're on the ball for him! Good info

Thank you. I just finished up a task at work and had a few minutes to post up before leaving for the day.