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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Some good and some bad news...

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    Bad news, not sure how to do the oil return line... The turbine flange is straight down from the center section... The compressor housing is to the front, the turbine housing to the back... The manifold to the drivers side and I could get it over the turbine flange to the passenger side but that would require it to go around the framerail and take a 45 degree turn, which is not good for a return line... Heres a pic:



    Good news is the downpipe is all mocked up and just needs to 02 put in, and a brace to the tranny... Its all ready to be tig'd up...




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    Veteran Member Four Rings Don Supreme's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    return line definitely looks tricky.

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    Registered Member Three Rings
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    You may not be able to do this, but I have found that the most reliable way to make difficult drain lines is to use a steel drain flange on the turbo, and to get 3/4" stainless steel x 16g. I just pie cut up as neccessary to maneuver out of the extremely hot areas, and then weld on a hose barb or AN fitting to go back to hose. I've messed with drain lines to no end on my car- the top mount / tubular manifolds are always difficult, and this is the most reliable method.

    It is important to tig weld and backpurge so you do not end up with carbides floating around in your oil, although it should get caught in the filter anyways.

    I would clock the turbo a bit towards the camera and then just sneak past the edge of the manifold and down and around. If you need a hose fab setup I think #10 AN 45 degree might work there with good heat shielding over it.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Don Supreme's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    How did Bassed make his?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    I already spoke with Ian, I cannot do mine the way his is done, he has a Bullseye

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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    I dont know if the 3071 is different from the 35r but i did mine with a 45 right at the exit and it shoots out between the collector and cyl1 runner.

    sorry about the blurryness but heres some refrence pics. I would show you with the turbo nd manifold on but my head is at the machine shop right now.



    this area is what im talkign about where i shoot mine through.
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Can you run a bolt/s instead of a stud/s on that side of the turbo flange to get some more clearance?

    That could make an extra .25"+ of clearance. Just a thought?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Hmm, Im thinking of bolts and a 45 with 5/8" hard tube

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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    does that mean I had a good idea?
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Since the flange is angled down on the fender side I would slightly clock the turbo so that you have a little more room for a 45 deg fitting. Then you can run it over the rail toward the radiator support as it sweeps down to the pan.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by djwimbo View Post
    does that mean I had a good idea?
    Yea, and Mike told me bout ARP bolts, or I read it in a post or something

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    Since the flange is angled down on the fender side I would slightly clock the turbo so that you have a little more room for a 45 deg fitting. Then you can run it over the rail toward the radiator support as it sweeps down to the pan.
    It would hafta be at quite an angle to do that

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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Don't know if this helps but I used the factory return line and cut it at the end of the -12 line from the bottom. Put a -12 male to -12 to -10 adapter to -10 line to the oil pan. The piping part that bolts to the turbo you can bend some. This is the best pick I have of it.

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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    what happened to your manifold to make it come apart like that?

    Quote Originally Posted by quattro16 View Post
    Don't know if this helps but I used the factory return line and cut it at the end of the -12 line from the bottom. Put a -12 male to -12 to -10 adapter to -10 line to the oil pan. The piping part that bolts to the turbo you can bend some. This is the best pick I have of it.


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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    You had your line rubbing the manifold?!

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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    bad idea
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by Evan@Absolute View Post
    what happened to your manifold to make it come apart like that?
    Well I guessed you missed my other posts over the last 6 months but that is the result of some quality welding. HAHAHA. Thats an 034 manifold thats been sent back 3 times and has cracked twice in the last two weeks. O yeah the car has 1700 miles on it!

    Quote Originally Posted by 317ssayzarc View Post
    You had your line rubbing the manifold?!
    Yeah it rubs alittle. Has barely made a mark on the heat sheilding sleeve. And your talking about steel braided line. This stuff lasts, and is strong as hell.
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    Active Member Four Rings
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    It looks as though it was starting burn though the sleeve. You could get a higher temp sleeve, I suppose.

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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    That line is not even on my list of concerns for the car. I have bigger problems then that.
    Trying to find a manifold that lasts more then one Auto X.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings t1demont1's Avatar
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    SPA is it.
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by t1demont1 View Post
    SPA is it.
    Unless the person is looking to keep weight down.
    Last edited by mike-2ptzero; 09-28-2008 at 07:59 PM.

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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Weight!
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    Re: Some good and some bad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by quattro16 View Post
    Weight!
    LOL, I didn't even notice that.

    Fixed.

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