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    I was just browsing JHM's website because I am looking into getting a SSK. It looks like there are 3 options. Stock knob height with 10% and 30% reduction, 1" shorter with 10% and 30% OR Extra short 1/2" shorter and 35% and 45% reduction. Is anyone running the extra short? opinions? I think if I was going to buy one it would definitely be 1" shorter, but a little lower and alot more reduction is nice to. Im stuck


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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    I've heard SSK's may damage the synchros...
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    I've heard SSK's may damage the synchros...
    I heard that was mostly untrue..., but I would probably leave this up to people who have actually installed SSK's and their experiences.

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    wtf that's so damn expensive for a short shifter.

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by supamannn99 View Post
    wtf that's so damn expensive for a short shifter.
    look how well its made!! i have a JHM in my race car!! sensational peace of art.
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    I've heard SSK's may damage the synchros...
    in what way?

    i think it could actually be argued otherwise, seeing that with a well-crafted short throw, it would reduce the amount of mis-shifts or half-shifts that would lead to wear and tear.

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    I've had the stock Jhm for sometime. Its not just that the throw is shorter, it almost completely eliminated the slop in shifts. Jay is great and answered my questions about the install and adjustment promptly. By far much better than just a normal ss. Word of warning! Get exactly all the tools be has including the angle finder. You really can't adjust it perfectly without it. Oh! And becareful not to strip the bolts. I had to order new ones from the dealer which was embarassing and took 3 days.
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    I've sent an email to JHM in the past, asking for a short shift kit for my

    A4 B7 1.8T Quattro 20vt BFB Engine

    but no-one replied to my answer...I got dissapointed... :(

    Hope this doesnt happen in your case...best of luck there...

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    i gotta find out which one my friend has on his A4, i know that shit is short as fuck!!! i wouldnt get any shorter then what he has, its pointless
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by Ih8OEM View Post
    i gotta find out which one my friend has on his A4, i know that shit is short as fuck!!! i wouldnt get any shorter then what he has, its pointless
    Is not that short compared to a friends of mine ( Guy is crazier than Adam ), but the JHM is much much better. IMO is worth every penny.
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by HID View Post
    Is not that short compared to a friends of mine ( Guy is crazier than Adam ), but the JHM is much much better. IMO is worth every penny.
    coming from a cvt owner...


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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    i have the extra short version. I like it alot, it has a few adjustment points, I tweaked around with it a little last night (about 3 hours worth) taking everything out, changing adjustments. I just like the feel of the shifts now, you actually feel your engaging gears. My first gear is notchy but it was before the install. I didn't go all the way down on the adjust just cause if you have a drink in the cup holder it's hard to reach the knob or the drink gets in the way.

    For over 250 bucks, hmmm i dont know, it is expensive but this thing is quality. Not to mention i think there are 4 points of adjustment.

    1) 25% reduction on just the stock height
    2) 40% reduction on stock height
    3) 25% reduction on 1/2 lower
    4) 40% reduction on 1/2 lower

    Install was a biotch at first but theni was able to remove the ash tray the second time and it was a breeze.

    Good luck
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by vtracer20 View Post
    i have the extra short version. I like it alot, it has a few adjustment points, I tweaked around with it a little last night (about 3 hours worth) taking everything out, changing adjustments. I just like the feel of the shifts now, you actually feel your engaging gears. My first gear is notchy but it was before the install. I didn't go all the way down on the adjust just cause if you have a drink in the cup holder it's hard to reach the knob or the drink gets in the way.

    For over 250 bucks, hmmm i dont know, it is expensive but this thing is quality. Not to mention i think there are 4 points of adjustment.

    1) 25% reduction on just the stock height
    2) 40% reduction on stock height
    3) 25% reduction on 1/2 lower
    4) 40% reduction on 1/2 lower

    Install was a biotch at first but theni was able to remove the ash tray the second time and it was a breeze.

    Good luck

    How long have you had it on your car? Have you had any problems with it yet?

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by EMAXX View Post
    How long have you had it on your car? Have you had any problems with it yet?
    well since i got back from europe so actually almost 2 months. No issues with it what so ever, great quality, install would of been MUCH easier first time around without the ash tray, but nothing a rookie could do with time. I like to take my time when installing parts. You do have to play around with it, untighting, adjusting, retightening....it just take time to find YOUR comfort. If you end up buying it and have any install ?'s let me know
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by vtracer20 View Post
    well since i got back from europe so actually almost 2 months. No issues with it what so ever, great quality, install would of been MUCH easier first time around without the ash tray, but nothing a rookie could do with time. I like to take my time when installing parts. You do have to play around with it, untighting, adjusting, retightening....it just take time to find YOUR comfort. If you end up buying it and have any install ?'s let me know


    I'm seriously considering getting one. It's just that ever since I joined the boards, I've heard that they could mess up your syrcos. It's never been verified by anyone but everyone tells me that. The stock gear shift isn't bad, but I wish that the throws were a little tighter.

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    ANY SHORT THROW SHIFTER WILL NOT HARM YOUR SYNCHROS. Synchros wear due to use just like brake pads would.

    The driver and their driving style is what does it. Think of a synchro like a brake pad. A synchro is just a round piece of friction material that speeds up and slows down the gears for smooth shifting. So like brake pads (another type of friction material) if you force it and shift fast all the time of course you will wear it more, just like the person who slams on their brakes hard and drives hard will wear out their brake pads faster than someone who brakes slowly and gingerly. Also being a wear part that it is, the more shifting you do the quicker it will wear. So if you are driving all day in the city and shifting constantly and downshifting you will wear them way faster than a car that is driven all highway. So that is why some cars will show synchro issues at 40k and others at 150k miles. There are exceptions to this like any mass produced part, you may get a poorly made synchro just like you could get a poorly made brake pad and get premature regardless.

    So don't be in fear of buying any short throw shifter. You can shift extremely fast with a stock shifter as well. Also maintenance and gear oil changes are often neglected.



    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor View Post
    I've sent an email to JHM in the past, asking for a short shift kit for my

    A4 B7 1.8T Quattro 20vt BFB Engine

    but no-one replied to my answer...I got dissapointed... :(

    Hope this doesnt happen in your case...best of luck there...

    Sorry to hear about that. I personally respond to every email I receive. Something must have happened. Sorry for your experience. The longest I have ever taken for a response on a shifter is a day or two tops.

    What email did you send it to?


    Thanks
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    jay your product is the shit, i adjusted it a little last night and gear shift are much better. my 1st is still a little crappy but it was before the SS. Thanks agian
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by jaybquick@JHM View Post
    ANY SHORT THROW SHIFTER WILL NOT HARM YOUR SYNCHROS. Synchros wear due to use just like brake pads would.

    The driver and their driving style is what does it. Think of a synchro like a brake pad. A synchro is just a round piece of friction material that speeds up and slows down the gears for smooth shifting. So like brake pads (another type of friction material) if you force it and shift fast all the time of course you will wear it more, just like the person who slams on their brakes hard and drives hard will wear out their brake pads faster than someone who brakes slowly and gingerly. Also being a wear part that it is, the more shifting you do the quicker it will wear. So if you are driving all day in the city and shifting constantly and downshifting you will wear them way faster than a car that is driven all highway. So that is why some cars will show synchro issues at 40k and others at 150k miles. There are exceptions to this like any mass produced part, you may get a poorly made synchro just like you could get a poorly made brake pad and get premature regardless.

    So don't be in fear of buying any short throw shifter. You can shift extremely fast with a stock shifter as well. Also maintenance and gear oil changes are often neglected.






    Sorry to hear about that. I personally respond to every email I receive. Something must have happened. Sorry for your experience. The longest I have ever taken for a response on a shifter is a day or two tops.

    What email did you send it to?


    Thanks
    I sent a mail to the mail that you have in your site...

    If there is any chance that you produce a short shifter for the model I told you about, feel free to pm me about all of its details and pics...

    I know that this model does not come in your country, but I have the impression that it has the same system with B6 1.8T Quattro...

    Waiting for your pm...

    Thanks a lot

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor View Post
    I sent a mail to the mail that you have in your site...

    If there is any chance that you produce a short shifter for the model I told you about, feel free to pm me about all of its details and pics...

    I know that this model does not come in your country, but I have the impression that it has the same system with B6 1.8T Quattro...

    Waiting for your pm...

    Thanks a lot

    Link me to the page you are using to email me. I am not seeing anything. I pretty much make a shifter for most any newer VAG vehicle with a NON cable style linkage.

    Email me directly at jason@jhmotorsports.com or PM me here with the model you want me to check into. Also send me pics of your shifter with the knob and boot off.

    I do have ETKA and if you are talking about a Skoda or SEAT I can see if the part numbers look similar on some of the OEM parts to give me an idea but a picture will be what is needed for me to help you the most.

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    ^^^Sending mail

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor View Post
    ^^^Sending mail
    Responded. Thanks

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    ^^^Thanks a lot for your quick reply...

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    ^^^I ordered my set. Waiting to arrive in Greece.

    Hope you put some stickers in it so as show it to others in Greece where your company is not familiar...

    Thanks :)

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    i'll start saving my pennies for this. after the exhaust!
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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    sorry to revive this thread...but it's better than starting a new one.

    I'm thinking about getting an extra short one...but I'm worried about how low it is. I have a momo shift knob and that makes the OEM shifter a little bit shorter as it is because of how it mounts. ( pushes down and is tightened by allen screws) So I don't want it to be rediculously low...anybody got pictures of theirs and how low it actually sits? This will make my decision much easier.

    joshua

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    hey jay, are you doing any kind of core swap for the new shifter revisions? I have an older model and would like to upgrade, but can't be without a shifter.

    also, any idea where I can get this, or how much it costs?

    the black plastic piece

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    I put a JHM SSK in around Xmas. I love... It is rock solid, feels much more smooth and is generally a better kit

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    ^what length did you get?

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    Re: JHM Extra Short Throw

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingBUTasian View Post
    sorry to revive this thread...but it's better than starting a new one.

    I'm thinking about getting an extra short one...but I'm worried about how low it is. I have a momo shift knob and that makes the OEM shifter a little bit shorter as it is because of how it mounts. ( pushes down and is tightened by allen screws) So I don't want it to be rediculously low...anybody got pictures of theirs and how low it actually sits? This will make my decision much easier.

    joshua

    Here is a picture of a Extra short throw in a B6/B7. This is .5" lower knob height than stock. We have a shifter that is the stock height that will be .5" higher than this and one that is 1" lower than stock that will be .5" lower than this.

    PIC WITH A MEASURING TAPE FOR REFERENCE.



    PIC WITHOUT A MEASURING TAPE.




    Quote Originally Posted by ngng View Post
    hey jay, are you doing any kind of core swap for the new shifter revisions? I have an older model and would like to upgrade, but can't be without a shifter.

    also, any idea where I can get this, or how much it costs?

    the black plastic piece
    Since your car is a B6/B7 S4 I PMd you since this does not apply to the A4 guys. And yes I can get you the OEM plastic base.

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