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    Which Navigation Unit should I get?

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    They will both be around $2,000 installed.

    Pioneer AVIC - F700BT




    General features:
    # CD receiver with internal amp (14 watts RMS CEA-2006/50 peak x 4 channels)
    # built-in navigation capability with map coverage of US, Canada, Alaska, and Hawaii, plus over 12 million points-of-interest
    # 5.8" touchscreen
    # fits double-sized dash openings
    # voice control of iPod audio (with optional adapter) and Bluetooth
    #
    Audio features:
    # plays MP3/WMA/AAC/WAV files recorded on CD-ROM, CD-R, and CD-RW discs
    # high- and low-pass filters
    # 3-band parametric equalizer with 6 preset EQ curves
    # bass boost
    #
    Expandability:
    # built-in Bluetooth for hands-free calling
    # compatible with Pioneer iPod adapter, satellite radio, and HD Radio tuner
    # inputs: USB input, SD card slot, front-panel A/V input, rear A/V input, rear-view camera input
    # outputs: video output, 6-channel preamp outputs (front, rear, subwoofer)


    Audi RNS-E



    Features:

    * It uses one DVD for the US and Canada. (Included)
    * Folding 6.5" TFT display with 3D map displays
    * Audio CD's or Mp3's can be played
    * Numerous new navigation functions(e.g. perspective map view by means of bird's eye
    display, new split-screen function, selected points of interest displayed)
    * Integrated car radio with CD player (internal single DVD drive)
    * Driver information system
    * Turning instructions and arrow depicted in driver information system
    * Two integrated MMC/SD card slots for Mp3 files
    * Two FM tuners (second tuner searches in the background for better reception)
    * Video in motion (VIM) update included.
    * Compatible with a CD changer, Bose/Non Bose sound system, Satellite radio
    Optionally, you can plug in a iPod video, laptop, DVD player, game console.
    With an optional multimedia interface. Video in motion update included.

    I like the way the Audi one looks and that its stock, but doesn't the pioneer seem like the better buy?
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    i say avic.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    bump
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    I see that there is a A6 RSN-E being sold for about $900 bones on ebay from England. Is there any major difference to make them work in the US besides a map disk?
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    I'd go OEM, I hate how half assed aftermarket stuff looks in a premium car.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by MacDaddy View Post
    I'd go OEM, I hate how half assed aftermarket stuff looks in a premium car.
    yep. Go OEM. it CAN'T look any better than OEM.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmann View Post
    yep. Go OEM. it CAN'T look any better than OEM.
    Are you serious? Have you seen the gaps on the side of the RNS-E when installed on a B5?



    Here's a picture of my half assed aftermarket stuff nav on my car.



    FWIW, you can't play CDs when you are using the NAV disc on the RNS-E. If you wanna play a CD, you gotta take out the nav disc.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    RNS-E fitted on B5. No gaps


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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    ^^
    which one is that

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    $2000 installed for an avic is a rip, Both units are really easy DIY. If you have an ipod the avic is the way to go.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    I'd say go OEM over aftermarket, but the RNS-E doesn't always fit right. But you can't argue the price and options you get with aftermarket. I just dont like the look of the aftermarket stuff in our dash...never seems to fit in.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    I think I'm gonna go with the Pioneer. Biggest thing for me is that you don't need a CD to have the Nav work. So I can also listen to music whiles its working.

    I;m not worried about it not looking flush with the panel because the guy who is installing it for me does good work and with some fabrication it will look good.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    the rns-e is also a different tone of black, looks bad, but i also agree that aftermarket looks pretty bad too, that's why I stuck with the symphony and got a laptop mount
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    pm me for a better price. I make no money on it but i know an install shop that will do it on ur car for like 80-100 bucks for the avic. Includes installing everything. Did a great job on my car. Ge the full; install kit on ebay plus the avic of ur choice(i got a BNIB avic f90-bt for 810 shipped) Total price comes to about 950 after parts, unit, and install.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    yea 2k is ALOT of money dude, someone is wanting to rip you off
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeproks View Post
    hey waterbury and wolcott arent too far from me lol
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    My brother has the AVIC in his e46 m3, it hella sick, i say avic

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?



    Looks like the RNS-E's are in Gallardos also.
    00 B5 S4 - K04, Stern Soft MM, Stern Snub, DTS, Neuspeed Rear Sway, Oinkies, GIAC stg 2 XR, Vogtland GT, SSAC copy. Soo... Stg 2.31456?
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    I guess I'm biased ...



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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by LOWR1D3R View Post
    RNS-E fitted on B5. No gaps

    How's that possible?

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimcorner View Post


    Looks like the RNS-E's are in Gallardos also.
    Audi owns Lamborghini btw.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    ^^^ Those A/C controls look familiar as well... :P
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    moma mia!

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by grAh4m View Post
    How's that possible?
    I'd like to know as well. I can see the side interior trim may have been heated with a heat gun to reshape it but I can't figure out how the climate control and the hazard controls line up when other installs I've seen weren't even close.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    avic.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by grAh4m View Post
    How's that possible?
    My guess is he got the faceplate modified since the little arrow by the lower knob is gone. Compare it with the picture I posted with the gap and you'll see what I mean.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeproks View Post
    My guess is he got the faceplate modified since the little arrow by the lower knob is gone. Compare it with the picture I posted with the gap and you'll see what I mean.
    yeah the volume symbol is gone, also the face is flat compared under the hazards and doesn't follow the curve of the trim.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimcorner View Post
    yeah the volume symbol is gone, also the face is flat compared under the hazards and doesn't follow the curve of the trim.
    good find.

    It may not look 100%, but it still looks damn good.

    And if anyone has seen the Top Gear where Jeremy Clarkson (I hate that SOB) drives the new M5 you'll not want to listen to music and use the nav at the same time either.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    It can be done ... color matched, and fitted proper:







    I guess I'm biased as well. external dvd/cd player in glove box solves playing cd's while nav disc is in.
    AWE, GIAC, Stasis,KO4s, bla bla bla this is getting a bit ridiculous. I hope it will end soon.

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    wow, very nice looking.
    I believe it can be done if you throw $ at it. Doesn't have to cost a lot, but it's definitely not a drop-in installation.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmann View Post
    Jeremy Clarkson (I hate that SOB)
    Take that back this instant!

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    is there a tv tuner for the states with our nav? in my friends m5 you could watch tv while driving, is it the same for our factory unit??

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    getting the car back tomorrow, so ill post pics soon if anyone is interested on how it came out.
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Cant wait to see!

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    i'd say go with the Avic... it won't look half assed if you get the right trim kit and get it done by a reputable shop. RNS-E looks really clean and oem, but I feel it's pretty dated and it's features are limited when compared to the features and expandability options of the Pioneer. I have an Alpine dvd-nav unit in my car and I love it, though it's the flip out kind and doesn't look nearly as at home in the dash as the Avic does. my .02

    it appears as though i need to learn to read entire threads before posting... good selection, post pics
    Last edited by CruzS4; 09-26-2008 at 10:59 PM. Reason: didn't realize he had gone with the pioneer
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Considering the same AVIC (or rather the 900), so post pics. Everyone was all about the D3, but this is the first thing I heard about the new ones and haven't seen any pics installed. I hope you didn't pay $2k when it can be had for less than $1k, but let us see results anyways!
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeproks View Post
    Are you serious? Have you seen the gaps on the side of the RNS-E when installed on a B5?
    They don't all come out like that... Most RNS-E installs I've seen on the S4 look perfectly natural. IMO, all the aftermarket units look hoakie and don't match the rest of the dashboard at all; gap or no gap, I'd rather the unit match the car more than anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeproks View Post
    FWIW, you can't play CDs when you are using the NAV disc on the RNS-E. If you wanna play a CD, you gotta take out the nav disc.
    What if you have the 6-disc in the trunk? I'm pretty sure it'll work then, otherwise, there's always the radio

    I really think the RNS-E on that Lambo looks nice! It matches the Audi climate control buttons real good
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    So happy I went with the Avic-900BT, thing is sick. I haven't even begun messing with it yet. Will post pics soon and a big thanks to Sammy from Elitemotorsnj.com
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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by NogaroS4NJ View Post
    So happy I went with the Avic-900BT, thing is sick. I haven't even begun messing with it yet. Will post pics soon and a big thanks to Sammy from Elitemotorsnj.com
    Do the bypass mod yet?

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    Re: Which Navigation Unit should I get?

    Yes
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