BIG TURBO part3

[a4mafia]

okay so i came up with a list and the price and the website. should this be good? also there are a couple things i cant find so i need some help.



A4 Big Turbo Setup

-GT3076R Turbo: $1250 www.ecodetuning.com

-SPA Manifold: $495 www.034motorsprt.com

-Southbend Stage 3 Clutch: $600 www.ecodetuning.com

Eurodyne Tuning: $750 www.eurodyne.ca

-630cc Injectors:?

-Test Pipe: $395 www.atpturbo.com

-SCAT Rods: $375 www.034motorsport.com

-Turbo Timer: $100 www.ecodetuning.com

-Boost Controller: $165 www.ecodetuning.com

-Intercooler?

-Forge BOV/DV Splitter: 160 www.ecodetuning.com

-MAF: $150 www.034motorsport.com

-Lines?

-Silicone?

let me know anything. my mind is open.

[Jibberific]

i think you should be able to find a test pipe for less than 400 bucks. that's kind of a lot

[Jung]

higher flowing head would definitely be on my list also. it'll help out the top end power made available by this large of a turbo.
stroker kit (2.0)
ARP bolts

[Jung]

i think you should be able to find a test pipe for less than 400 bucks. that's kind of a lot

my test pipes on my S are less than 30 bucks each. go to an exhaust shop and have them fab up a pipe for you, 02 bung, spacer, weld it on, you're good to go

[Don Supreme]

Your list needs a lot of work...................................

Please read the other thread on this topic. Its still on the front page of this forum and it has a better list.

[njm23]

running a GT30 I would suggest building the head, on a 1.8 your not going to take full advantage of the turbo only revving to 7000 and on stock cams. And IDK what would make you think a stage 3 clutch would be okay, you want atleast the stage 4 if not stage 5. EDIT: Also would suggest replacing all your rod/main bearings and piston rings since you gotta do rods anyway. Theres a recent thread about this look at it.

[AudiRacerS4]

running a GT30 I would suggest building the head, on a 1.8 your not going to take full advantage of the turbo only revving to 7000 and on stock cams. And IDK what would make you think a stage 3 clutch would be okay, you want atleast the stage 4 if not stage 5

x2 and your list is missing a lot of stuff that you are going to need or want to replace while you are in there. seals, rings, bearings, etc.

[jturnbull]

http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/pro...5-597-139.html


heres a south bend stage 5 for $50 more

[Wizard-of-OD]

His list is partial....

[djwimbo]

Call up 034MS, or BobQ and get a total breakdown of what's needed.

Otherwise PM Issam, Mike, or any of the other members that know more of wtf they're doing.

[mike-2ptzero]

http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/pro...5-597-139.html


heres a south bend stage 5 for $50 more

How about stage 5 for $1 less then that and free ground shipping (48 states)?

But I am not sure where he got the stage 3 price for $600 when it retails for $450 + shipping.

[GetBoosted84]

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[onemoremile]

If you crack open the bottom end to do any work then put it back together with longevity in mind. The additional reliability gained by performing a basic rebuild will mean a lot when pushing 125 hp out of each cylinder. At the very least you should replace the rod bearing shells, piston rings, gaskets, and seals. Timing belt too.

[JumboBlack1.8]

U dont need a turbo timer

[t1demont1]

you dont need a tt. However that atp "Testpipe" wont work with a spa manifold. the turbo position is different. Like everyone else said with a gt3076. Your gonna wanna do rods, piston rings, main and rod bearings, and arp main bolts, you will also want a head gasket kit since your gonna need to pull the head for that kind of work. which requires head bolts as well. IF you dont wanna do bottom end work, I would reccomend a 2871r at the very most.

[AudiA4_20T]

Give yourself ~$1k for just the bottom end build, and $1500 if u dont do the rods ureself

[1fstavant]

you cna run a stg 3...but its better to go bigger and beefier....

or youll end up like me afraid to launch your car

[djwimbo]

or youll end up like me afraid to launch your car

X2,... Until I manned up and now I'm decent at it.

[onemoremile]

Give yourself ~$1k for just the bottom end build, and $1500 if u dont do the rods ureself

Sounds about right. Especially if you need to buy some tools for the project.

It can be done cheaper though. Mine was around 700 and that included all of the PCV valves and parts (~2 bills) and a new oil pump. TQMB5's was probably cheaper than mine including that janky engine stand.

The only problem with these rod swapped homebrews is that the balance might not be as perfect. Since we build these things for 3076 sized turbos and playtime lasts past 8,000 rpm that could present a longevity problem. Mine was done 2 year and 30k miles ago and is smooth like butta. I cleaned the rods up and tossed them and the pistons on the digital scale at the bike shop.

[onemoremile]

I've had the Southbend OFE with SS pressure plate for over 4 years and about 60k miles. I'd go one step up for a 3076. Although it could probably handle race gas pulls I know mine would be happier with less than 450 torques ripping at it. When I bought it the rating was 420 Awtq or 450 Fwtq.

[Wizard-of-OD]

you dont need a tt. However that atp "Testpipe" wont work with a spa manifold. the turbo position is different. Like everyone else said with a gt3076. Your gonna wanna do rods, piston rings, main and rod bearings, and arp main bolts, you will also want a head gasket kit since your gonna need to pull the head for that kind of work. which requires head bolts as well. IF you dont wanna do bottom end work, I would reccomend a 2871r at the very most.

Brenden I allready have the downpipes working out for him if he wants the SPA manifold:

[t1demont1]

Yeah ive been seeing that everywhere Issam, that downpipe looks too nice.

[317ssayzarc]

The only problem with these rod swapped homebrews is that the balance might not be as perfect. Since we build these things for 3076 sized turbos and playtime lasts past 8,000 rpm that could present a longevity problem. Mine was done 2 year and 30k miles ago and is smooth like butta. I cleaned the rods up and tossed them and the pistons on the digital scale at the bike shop.

Agreed that balance is an issue on homebrewed setups, but rods are SO good these days that its not the biggest issue imo... All of my rods were within .6 of a gram, I went further and went to .1 of a gram, but Im sure .6 would have been fine... The biggest issue is when people throw bearings in there without mic'ing the clearances, and then people wonder why they spin bearings lol... What did you balance your motor to? I did less than a gram for the crank/flywheel/pulley, and .1 gram for pistons/rods

[a4mafia(Red)]

U dont need a turbo timer

and while your at it. forget the front mount too....hey, and what the hell do you want rods for? that will like make your engine not blow and stuff right....

[AudiRacerS4]

and while your at it. forget the front mount too....hey, and what the hell do you want rods for? that will like make your engine not blow and stuff right....

you really dont need a turbo timer

[bassed]

Brenden I allready have the downpipes working out for him if he wants the SPA manifold:

Do you have any in the bay pics yet? Curious how that will clear.

[JumboBlack1.8]

and while your at it. forget the front mount too....hey, and what the hell do you want rods for? that will like make your engine not blow and stuff right....

U tryin to mock me?......lots of people dont use these....they're pointles...but go ahead and waste ur money if u'd like

[JumboBlack1.8]

Do you have any in the bay pics yet? Curious how that will clear.

x2.....really interested in gettin one of these down the road......whats the general pricing on these? I never saw it listed anywhere

[a4mafia]

and while your at it. forget the front mount too....hey, and what the hell do you want rods for? that will like make your engine not blow and stuff right....

haha I love u justin lol not in a gay way though...

[Kyle H]

here is a list I put together a couple of months ago with the help of some guys on here... you may need to tweak it a bit for the direction you're going.

Part:.........................Cost:

• gt3071......................1100
• spa manifold................460
• wastegate setup..........230
• 630cc injectors...........260
• ctapp tune (pump).......700
• lightning maf...............120
• 3" catback ...............750
• hfc...........................250
• fmic .........................900
• scat rods....................400
• rod bearings.................80
• main bearings...............60
• piston rings ................150
• main bolts...................20
• sb stg 4.....................600
• walbro 255..................100
• a/f+oil gauge................430
• ebc...........................400
• misc...........................1500
  
• Total:.......................8510

[sean1.8t]

depending on how you are planning on driving the car. i would really consider tweaking your clutch setup past the generic stg 3/4/5 options.

talk to Mike Hood about this. he knows what im talking about and will get you a good price

[Pete@IE]

We've got lots of IE 144 x 20's in stock, I can do them for $350 with free shipping. We've also got 630's in stock for $47 each. I'll also price match on the exhaust manifold which I have in stock as well.

Hit me up I'll throw you together a little combo pack. [email protected]

[a4mafia]

here is a list I put together a couple of months ago with the help of some guys on here... you may need to tweak it a bit for the direction you're going.

Part:.........................Cost:

• gt3071......................1100
• spa manifold................460
• wastegate setup..........230
• 630cc injectors...........260
• ctapp tune (pump).......700
• lightning maf...............120
• 3" catback ...............750
• hfc...........................250
• fmic .........................900
• scat rods....................400
• rod bearings.................80
• main bearings...............60
• piston rings ................150
• main bolts...................20
• sb stg 4.....................600
• walbro 255..................100
• a/f+oil gauge................430
• ebc...........................400
• misc...........................1500
  
• Total:.......................8510

i can find most of that stuff way cheaper

[Wizard-of-OD]

Do you have any in the bay pics yet? Curious how that will clear.

Clears just fine.We have a half cut here that we use for mocking up all our parts.

[pipe7284]

Issam is a great guy to deal with, he can answer all your questions no matter how stupid they seem. and can guide you for a build you will never regret.

[a4mafia]

Issam is a great guy to deal with, he can answer all your questions no matter how stupid they seem. and can guide you for a build you will never regret.

^x2!

[Kyle H]

i can find most of that stuff way cheaper

I know, I just posted it so you have a guideline of parts to get for the most part.

The prices are a high estimate to compensate for tax and shipping. Good luck

[a4mafia]

I know, I just posted it so you have a guideline of parts to get for the most part.

The prices are a high estimate to compensate for tax and shipping. Good luck

I appreciate the help bec I need it. Does anyone know if a state 2 ignition required?

[A4Rob]

I appreciate the help bec I need it. Does anyone know if a state 2 ignition required?

no

oh and wtf is that software you want to run?!

I appreciate the help bec I need it.

Maybe Search more to find answers?

[a4mafia(Red)]

you really dont need a turbo timer

so when your driving around. maybe you'll get on it a couple times and then you arrive at your destination and shut off the car?....letting your oil bake and in your 800+ Degree turbo(turbos can idle at 20000 rpm)?!?!?!?!? is this what your trying to tell me?



lots of people blow their stock turbos bc they dont wait 45 seconds at the end of driving(as recommended by audi) when they're reallll hot and the oil sludges up and eventually blocks up the flow....