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    Veteran Member Three Rings SilverBiturboS4's Avatar
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    My car won't start.

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    Hello Fellow AZ'ers

    I have a 01.5 Stage 3 S4 that I Haven't drove in about a week. So tonight I decided to move my car from one side of the driveway to the other so I can take it to work tomorrow but what do you know the car won't start. The Battery is Fine. I have gas in it. The last time this happened to the chip was fried because of my carelessness when I was trying to switch out the chip to the updated one. but this time i haven't done anything to the ECU. and the EPC that usually comes on when you start the car up then go away doesn't even light up just like the time i messed up the chip. But im hoping thats on the problem and that this could be a quick fix and not a long and painful one.

    Can anyone give me some advice or point out some things that i can check first?

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    Thats about it.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Your car is too low.

    Gotta raise it up and then it will start.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse S. View Post
    Your car is too low.

    Gotta raise it up and then it will start.
    There is no such thing as to low.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Anyone??
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Does it crank and just keep on cranking, or does it not crank at all?

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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by ewuzh View Post
    Does it crank and just keep on cranking, or does it not crank at all?
    its just keeps Cranking and over and over. I had to stop cause i didnt want to drain the battery
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Vag com? maybe a fuel pump issue or something.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by obijohn22 View Post
    Vag com? maybe a fuel pump issue or something.
    Yup. it doesn't get any responses from the ecu.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBiturboS4 View Post
    Yup. it doesn't get any responses from the ecu.
    no response from ECU = wiring issue w ECU or the ECU itself.

    Does your EPC and or CEL come on with the key in the ON position?

    If you have a Bentley and a DVOM try to see if the ECU is receiving 12v from the battery.

    And also don't keep cranking your car. It will burn up your starter eventually.

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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by gmann View Post
    no response from ECU = wiring issue w ECU or the ECU itself.

    Does your EPC and or CEL come on with the key in the ON position?

    If you have a Bentley and a DVOM try to see if the ECU is receiving 12v from the battery.

    And also don't keep cranking your car. It will burn up your starter eventually.
    nope no cel or epc light I don't have a bentley so I wouldn't know how to check to see if the ecu is getting power
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    Re: My car won't start.

    your car wont start without the EPC light on so no sense it trying it! lol. get the EPC light on your car will start... i also have VAST and we have chips, so take your ECU out, 6 torx bolts on the ECU, flip it upside down, remove the secure the chip device haha and lift the chip out gently blow on it and reinstall... make sure the securing piece is all the way on, it will click when you get it back enough. have you ever installed a chip b4 ? just wondering this way you dont have to read my stupid directions
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4 View Post
    your car wont start without the EPC light on so no sense it trying it! lol. get the EPC light on your car will start... i also have VAST and we have chips, so take your ECU out, 6 torx bolts on the ECU, flip it upside down, remove the secure the chip device haha and lift the chip out gently blow on it and reinstall... make sure the securing piece is all the way on, it will click when you get it back enough. have you ever installed a chip b4 ? just wondering this way you dont have to read my stupid directions
    Yea i have Tried Checking to See if the chip has lifted of the board but its was still secured in there so i put the ecu back in to see if it would work but still a no go.

    next time im going to try is try the ecu in another s4 to see if its really the ecu or not.
    2001.5 S4

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    Re: My car won't start.

    It is possible that the ECU's fried... I lost one for my dub in May randomly while I was at QdM in NC. One morning went into the car and no CEL, just crankity crankity. I was pretty pissed because that was about a 14 hour drive from home. LUCKILY I brought my spare ECU, plugged it in and worked like a champ.

    Try and swap with someone local to you, or remove chip; tow; dealer reflash.

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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by gmann View Post
    It is possible that the ECU's fried... I lost one for my dub in May randomly while I was at QdM in NC. One morning went into the car and no CEL, just crankity crankity. I was pretty pissed because that was about a 14 hour drive from home. LUCKILY I brought my spare ECU, plugged it in and worked like a champ.

    Try and swap with someone local to you, or remove chip; tow; dealer reflash.
    Yea imma try to swap it out with a someone local to see if its really the ECU. I can't remove the chip the car wont really start for sure. Towing it will be the last thing i will do if its not the ECU.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings SilverBiturboS4's Avatar
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Alright the ECU is the problem. Now how does a ecu that was working fine go to shits?
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    Re: My car won't start.

    water possibly... do you bolt down the cover correctly? like all the bolts. some people dont bolt them all in and water can seep in there.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4 View Post
    water possibly... do you bolt down the cover correctly? like all the bolts. some people dont bolt them all in and water can seep in there.
    well i have all but one put in and its the hardest one to put in so i just left it off. but that one has been off for about 2 years now.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Your chip is toasty, ask VAST for another chip before replacing the ECU. Did you try boosting your car or someone elses car lately?

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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jerbel View Post
    Your chip is toasty, ask VAST for another chip before replacing the ECU. Did you try boosting your car or someone elses car lately?

    Yea I will send my ECU to Prince at Vast to See what they can do or see whats going on with the ECU

    Nah nothing like that lately.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Its the chip.


    That'll be $5 consulting fee.

    PM me for my paypal info.
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    Re: My car won't start.

    push in the clutch
    yeah im a dick

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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse S. View Post
    Its the chip.


    That'll be $5 consulting fee.

    PM me for my paypal info.
    I don't have Paypal but what i can do mail you a $500.00 Check and you can take out what i owe you and mail the rest back to me alright. HAHA
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by laxman851 View Post
    push in the clutch
    yeah im a dick
    Which pedal is the clutch? HAHAHA
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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by laxman851 View Post
    push in the clutch
    yeah im a dick
    Tisk tisk, he said the engine turned over.

    And it could also be from vibrations from not keeping the ECU securely bolted down.

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    Re: My car won't start.

    Remember to always replace that metal strip (ECU securing strap) when you re-install the ECU.

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    Re: My car won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jerbel View Post
    Remember to always replace that metal strip (ECU securing strap) when you re-install the ECU.
    Always
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    Re: My car won't start.

    I was the guy with the D head response of pushing in on your clutch, did you finally get your car started?

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