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    Question Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

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    Right now I have 19x8.5 et35 rims with 235/35/19 tires on every corner. along with this each corner has a 5mm spacer, bringing the offset to et30 all around.

    I rubbed pretty bad in the rear and decided to cut the fender liner:


    Doing this made rubbing disappear about 90%
    I have been running this setup for about 6 months and its great and only rubs slightly with 4ppl in the car on the freeway or on dips

    But.....
    19x8.5 et30 in the rear isnt flush enough for me so i put on my 15mm spacer on the rear and got this:

    this makes me happy because its flush and looks great as a stance
    the stats are 19x8.5 et20 with 235/35/19 and it looks sick

    Now even with the fender liner cut it rubs mad! like just under normal driving and normal smaller bumps int he road would cause it to rub excessively.

    I was planning on getting an alignment tomorrow and getting an:
    "aggressive street setup" : with around 1.5 to 2.0 negative camber in the rear. (anyone who has a good suggestions based on pics gimme a idea)

    Looking at that picture and estimating the camber do you think this will fit with minimal rubbing?

    I dont have the exact measurements of my drop but heres a really old side shot to give an idea. i know its pretty dropped right now at a great height and i dont want to change that by raising it.


    I think I am afraid of having the aggressive street setup on my alignment and having the 15mm spacers in the rear still rub to the point where i dont want to drive with them on and having to switch back to the 5mm spacers and have the stance looking weird with the slightly tucked rims and cambered wheels.

    Sorry for the long post... anyone have thoughts?

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    do the bumper markers in the front and rear interchange, like if i wanted red in the front, i would just get a spare set from a rear? you had me thinking, looked sik by the way with rhe 15mm , u said u cut ur liner, why didnt u just roll ur fenders?

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    I haven't tried anything aggressive on the A4 yet but previous experience is to camber as much as possible if you don't want to run smaller spacers. If a credit car or a couple sheets of paper can pass through it, it won't rub on the quarter panel. Have a friend or two sit in the trunk and some more in the back seat to get it to compress. That's what we usually do to get it to barely clear which would help keep the look you want. Judging from the pictures, I say a simple camber adjustment would make it work. Or run a more rounded tire.
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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    I have an ET32 on a 19x8.5 and I sit flush.
    Are you sure your rim width and offset are correct?




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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    ^ Yeah I am pretty sure. hard to mistake your offsets.

    Either way with the 15mm spacer there i have it at a stance i love.

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    ^ your not slammed as low as him tho clearly with the 19s....won't fender rollin solve this problem?

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    i have my car at -2

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Quote Originally Posted by 06B7audiA4 View Post
    ^ your not slammed as low as him tho clearly with the 19s....won't fender rollin solve this problem?
    That wasnt my point.
    My point was at a ET32 I sit flush and he doesnt on the same width wheel.


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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    ^ I just know that before i did my suspension and went lower, i thought I was gunna need a bigger spacer, turned out i only needed 5mm in the back and none in the front to be pretty flush...so i figured since he was lower, it was a difference becuase ur height is higher..haha i wasnt trying to argue :P

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    ^ i like those champions by the way, haha

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    fender rolling will cure your problems dude
    setting at -2 you'll still rub with +20 in the rear


    Im sitting at 19x9.5 + 35 and Im rubbing without any passenger in the rear
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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    I'm at 19x8.5 with ET 35 with no rubbing whatsoever but i'm gonna throw 5mm in the fronts and 10mm in the rear to get that agressive stance going, will keep you posted

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    I've rollled fenders before on a mustang and a skyline....but i don't see how rolling fenders on a B7 (or even a B6) can help that much....its already 'rolled' from the factory.
    Is it possible to make the inner fender-lip any flatter than it already is?
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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    You should not in any way whatsoever be able to have a +20 wheel "FLUSH" with the fender. I have 19x8.5 +35 245/35/19 and I dont even think I could fit a spacer on it, although I considered it, it doesn't look like it would come close to fitting...

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Here is the bigger issue. You want it flush - but you rub. If you add around -2 camber it may not rub anymore but now it will not look flush because the tops of the tires will "lean in" toward the car - that is why the rubbing stops. If you must have it look like does now (I.E. - looks good but rubs), your only option may be to raise the car slightly.
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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    ^ might be rolled from the factory, but they dont surely expect you to be slammed cruisin on 19's....Im bout to get my fenders rolled just so I dont rub at all, I barely do now, but its a safe option when you dont want to rub those tires away...I actually got an allignment and it fixed alot, but also took them over 4 hrs to do :P it was that off...but not noticable from my stand point till i saw my tires..ROLL THOSE FENDERS and i will make a safe bet, ull be happy..

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    Exclamation Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Quote Originally Posted by SGVA4 View Post
    fender rolling will cure your problems dude
    setting at -2 you'll still rub with +20 in the rear


    Im sitting at 19x9.5 + 35 and Im rubbing without any passenger in the rear
    Are your liners cut?

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Quote Originally Posted by MOFSTEEL View Post
    That wasnt my point.
    My point was at a ET32 I sit flush and he doesnt on the same width wheel.

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Quote Originally Posted by B7! View Post
    i have my car at -2
    Well isn't that special?

    (-4.5 degrees, 18x10 et27)


    For the OP, you might want to try this:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210830
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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Obvious View Post
    Well isn't that special?

    (-4.5 degrees, 18x10 et27)


    For the OP, you might want to try this:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210830
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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    it fits and barely rubs. running -2.4 L and -2.7 R camber in the rear with minimal rubbing
    Last edited by Elohite; 09-19-2008 at 12:14 AM.

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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Elohite View Post
    Are your liners cut?
    NO...and Im not gonna go that route

    Im bout to get coilovers so I can adjust my rear height though Im currently running Eibach/Bilstein set up. Rides nice but ever since I sold my LM TA and rolling on Works I've been rubbing like a madman
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    Re: Will This Fit Without Rubbing? (Flushness and Camber Experts Only!)

    Quote Originally Posted by mattman View Post
    I've rollled fenders before on a mustang and a skyline....but i don't see how rolling fenders on a B7 (or even a B6) can help that much....its already 'rolled' from the factory.
    Is it possible to make the inner fender-lip any flatter than it already is?
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    there is nothing to roll in the rear...you need to have the fenders PULLED....not ROLLED. you can roll the fronts, because there is material to roll.

    i have 19x9 et 41 all the way around 225/35/r19 tires. i had 20mm spacers in the rear bring the offset to et21. I only rubbed after i installed the stereo system. so i took them out
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