RS4/06 turbos

[audspeed]

Just got them done, fully RS4 turbos with RS6 chra's and k06 billet compressor wheel, weights 1/2 of rs6 wheel and flows 33% more......
Completely bolt on on S4 w/o any mods, good for 580-600HP.
Look at the picture, side by side with oem RS4 turbo......

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[jutny]

mmm, sexy.

i wonder if the Rs6 CHRA's are as fragile as the recent Rs4 K04 ones have been seeming to be.

[Das General]

Don't you think the housing is going to be a major restrictor?

[md s4]

price ??

[Don Supreme]

Looks good, how much did that cost and who did the work?

[Dr.Duct]

fuck thats nice

[md s4]

Looks good, how much did that cost and who did the work?

he's a vendor.. he sells mostly through ebay..

[GramCracker]

Hmmm, how much?

[audspeed]

Don't you think the housing is going to be a major restrictor?

The Rs4 K04's housing are good for 580-600HP with proper modification.....So this is max we can get on OEM RS4 HSG....

[audspeed]

Hmmm, how much?

PM us for price, thanks

[GramCracker]

The Rs4 K04's housing are good for 580-600HP with proper modification.....So this is max we can get on OEM RS4 HSG....

With these turbos (the RS4/06), can you get the 580-600 HP on stock motor/internals?

[Das General]

Not to bust your balls, but full RS6 turbos haven't even made 600 yet

[generationjdm]

The Rs4 K04's housing are good for 580-600HP with proper modification.....So this is max we can get on OEM RS4 HSG....

I think deb was talking about the small turbine housing

[Das General]

I think deb was talking about the turbine housing

Correct. I would imagine that housing would be a fairly big restricter, considering that hotside isn't very large.

[BurnAll4S4]

Not to bust your balls, but full RS6 turbos haven't even made 600 yet

agreed. if you can get this car to make anywhere over 550whp. all boost, stock motor (top end). ill let you shit in my face. its not happening.

[generationjdm]

agreed. if you can get this car to make anywhere over 550whp. all boost, stock motor (top end). ill let you shit in my face. its not happening.

he's clearly talking chp

[audspeed]

Not to bust your balls, but full RS6 turbos haven't even made 600 yet

580HP should be somewhere arround 450-460whp....... with proper tuning, thats how much this engine can hold......... RS6 turboc can make close to 500WHP, way more than 600hp at the flywheel....

[audidweeb]

The compressor inlet walls look paper thin. I hope they are reinforced. They look good though.

[audspeed]

agreed. if you can get this car to make anywhere over 550whp. all boost, stock motor (top end). ill let you shit in my face. its not happening.

never said anywhere in this post "whp"...........

[generationjdm]

The compressor inlet walls look paper thin. I hope they are reinforced. They look good though.

its not under pressure as its the inlet section

[BlackS4TT(Josh)]

Confused..... it's RS4-KO4 housing, and "KO6" compressor wheel? RS4-KO4 turbine or RS6-KO4 turbine? WTF is a KO6, by the way?

Also... what happened HERE?

[audspeed]

[QUOTE=BlackS4TT(Josh);2869598]Confused..... it's RS4-KO4 housing, and "KO6" compressor wheel? RS4-KO4 turbine or RS6-KO4 turbine? WTF is a KO6, by the way?

As post says (RS4/06) this is a RS4 turbos built with RS6 chra and k06 compressor wheel... The reason we did the RS6 CHRA is because the RS6 turbine wheel is bigger than RS4 and the RS6 shaft for some reason is stronger than any other k04 ever made, Different material against failure.... the K06 wheel is very similar as 997 porsche wheel.

[AMC]

[QUOTE=audspeed;2869714]

Confused..... it's RS4-KO4 housing, and "KO6" compressor wheel? RS4-KO4 turbine or RS6-KO4 turbine? WTF is a KO6, by the way?

As post says (RS4/06) this is a RS4 turbos built with RS6 chra and k06 compressor wheel... The reason we did the RS6 CHRA is because the RS6 turbine wheel is bigger than RS4 and the RS6 shaft for some reason is stronger than any other k04 ever made, Different material against failure.... the K06 wheel is very similar as 997 porsche wheel.

they mke k06's and wtf are we doing with shitty k04's! lmao jk. so what are you doin wit these, installin them on your car or selling them thru your ebay store?

[audidweeb]

its not under pressure as its the inlet section

When I installed my K04s, the inlet pipes were a pretty tight fit. They could break if you are not very careful with these thin inlet walls. I have seen it on a hybrid turbo once. The channel where the oring rides is the weak link. That isn't even taking into account for the continuous heating and cooling. They(Audspeed) know what they are doing, so I am sure they have taken this into concideration.

[audspeed]

[QUOTE=AMC83189;2869722]

they mke k06's and wtf are we doing with shitty k04's! lmao jk. so what are you doin wit these, installin them on your car or selling them thru your ebay store?

Borg Warner makes everything, k03, k04, k06, k14, k16, k18 and the list goes on..... For some reason they only develop some families of turbos for specific engine, and the k03 and k04's are the most popular... but hybrids are been made since 70's by BW. The audi RS2 has a k24 turbo (k24/7200) and guess what? this is a K24/26 hybrid, it has k24 turbine hsg and k26 compressor wheel and compressor hsg, same as old legendary audi S1 that comes with a k26 but is actually a k26/k27. Also did you know the new Porsche 997TT has K04 VGT in it? So that means K04 still the biggest application for VW/AUDI/PORSCHE. These RS4/k06 are already sold to a local customer and will do the installation tomorrow. He will use EMERALD STAND alone on his car and I will have some dyno numbers prety soon. On my personal car I am doing GT kit with gt2560r's... I hope all this info helps.

[jaredsogn]

Confused..... it's RS4-KO4 housing, and "KO6" compressor wheel? RS4-KO4 turbine or RS6-KO4 turbine? WTF is a KO6, by the way?

Also... what happened HERE?

Just as a warning for everyone, I would stay away from these turbos, as well as ANY turbos that Audspeed touches. He just rebuilt my K04/16's, and they blew right after installation. Sent them back, he gave about a million different excuses as to WHY they blew. His newest story now is that they failed due to "Excessive engine torque on the driver side bank"...complete BS fabricated story. Sent them to Blouch now to be rebuilt CORRECTLY. Blouch analyzed them and said they were 4-5 more out of balance than allowed. Now Audspeed will not stand behind their work, and I am having to pursue it through the bank. Talk about PATHETIC customer service. STAY AWAY!!!

[rouellettea4]

Just as a warning for everyone, I would stay away from these turbos, as well as ANY turbos that Audspeed touches. He just rebuilt my K04/16's, and they blew right after installation. Sent them back, he gave about a million different excuses as to WHY they blew. His newest story now is that they failed due to "Excessive engine torque on the driver side bank"...complete BS fabricated story. Sent them to Blouch now to be rebuilt CORRECTLY. Blouch analyzed them and said they were 4-5 more out of balance than allowed. Now Audspeed will not stand behind their work, and I am having to pursue it through the bank. Talk about PATHETIC customer service. STAY AWAY!!!

O, burn.

[RenegadeEngr]

Just as a warning for everyone, I would stay away from these turbos, as well as ANY turbos that Audspeed touches. He just rebuilt my K04/16's, and they blew right after installation. Sent them back, he gave about a million different excuses as to WHY they blew. His newest story now is that they failed due to "Excessive engine torque on the driver side bank"...complete BS fabricated story. Sent them to Blouch now to be rebuilt CORRECTLY. Blouch analyzed them and said they were 4-5 more out of balance than allowed. Now Audspeed will not stand behind their work, and I am having to pursue it through the bank. Talk about PATHETIC customer service. STAY AWAY!!!

time for a duel........sounds like audspeed has a little explaining to do...

[espo4442]

O snap

[audspeed]

Just as a warning for everyone, I would stay away from these turbos, as well as ANY turbos that Audspeed touches. He just rebuilt my K04/16's, and they blew right after installation. Sent them back, he gave about a million different excuses as to WHY they blew. His newest story now is that they failed due to "Excessive engine torque on the driver side bank"...complete BS fabricated story. Sent them to Blouch now to be rebuilt CORRECTLY. Blouch analyzed them and said they were 4-5 more out of balance than allowed. Now Audspeed will not stand behind their work, and I am having to pursue it through the bank. Talk about PATHETIC customer service. STAY AWAY!!!

Jared, First of all you need to tell everyone that your turbos was never rebuilt, it was installed brand new k04 RS4 CHRA's so is everything balanced from factory. We did change the existing compressor wheel (K16) to the new CHRA and everything was properly balanced(CHRA and CW). After your installation (not by AUDI tech or ASE certified person) only one turbo (driver's side) had a damaged with a shaft bent that come from excessive amount of torque or "maybe" lack of oil, and you never posted that your car was never making boost, never went over 3psi meaning that you had a HUGE boost leak. Then After we inspected and take the conclusion you ask to send the turbos to your own shop (blouch) for a second opinion and for over week we have no explanation, no feedback, nothing at all from your shop, just your thougts about it. Also Jared make sure you tell all the members that you did a chargeback on this and you threat me if i did not agree with full refund or we said that you were going to do this, do that, post all the this all over the world!!!!. I even offer you to send you a brand new CHRA on my OWN to fix YOUR problem to get this resolved and you still want everything!!! So here we go. I got all paperwork done sign by Borg Warner authorized repair shop, all the pictures to proof why and how your turbo failed. I been helping a lot people in here for years on these forums and we've done my best to try to resolve all the issues at the best way possible, BUT SORRY JARED, I am not take this type of threat at all. I hope you got all the paperwork from a second shop to send to your Credit Card company.

[WMi_S4]

Jared, First of all you need to tell everyone that your turbos was never rebuilt, it was installed brand new k04 RS4 CHRA's so is everything balanced from factory. We did change the existing compressor wheel (K16) to the new CHRA and everything was properly balanced(CHRA and CW). After your installation (not by AUDI tech or ASE certified person) only one turbo (driver's side) had a damaged with a shaft bent that come from excessive amount of torque or "maybe" lack of oil, and you never posted that your car was never making boost, never went over 3psi meaning that you had a HUGE boost leak. Then After we inspected and take the conclusion you ask to send the turbos to your own shop (blouch) for a second opinion and for over week we have no explanation, no feedback, nothing at all from your shop, just your thougts about it. Also Jared make sure you tell all the members that you did a chargeback on this and you threat me if i did not agree with full refund or we said that you were going to do this, do that, post all the this all over the world!!!!. I even offer you to send you a brand new CHRA on my OWN to fix YOUR problem to get this resolved and you still want everything!!! So here we go. I got all paperwork done sign by Borg Warner authorized repair shop, all the pictures to proof why and how your turbo failed. I been helping a lot people in here for years on these forums and we've done my best to try to resolve all the issues at the best way possible, BUT SORRY JARED, I am not take this type of threat at all. I hope you got all the paperwork from a second shop to send to your Credit Card company.

I duno if I even comprehend what I just read.....you speak english no?

[Dr.Duct]

Jared, First of all you need to tell everyone that your turbos was never rebuilt, it was installed brand new k04 RS4 CHRA's so is everything balanced from factory. We did change the existing compressor wheel (K16) to the new CHRA and everything was properly balanced(CHRA and CW). After your installation (not by AUDI tech or ASE certified person) only one turbo (driver's side) had a damaged with a shaft bent that come from excessive amount of torque or "maybe" lack of oil, and you never posted that your car was never making boost, never went over 3psi meaning that you had a HUGE boost leak. Then After we inspected and take the conclusion you ask to send the turbos to your own shop (blouch) for a second opinion and for over week we have no explanation, no feedback, nothing at all from your shop, just your thougts about it. Also Jared make sure you tell all the members that you did a chargeback on this and you threat me if i did not agree with full refund or we said that you were going to do this, do that, post all the this all over the world!!!!. I even offer you to send you a brand new CHRA on my OWN to fix YOUR problem to get this resolved and you still want everything!!! So here we go. I got all paperwork done sign by Borg Warner authorized repair shop, all the pictures to proof why and how your turbo failed. I been helping a lot people in here for years on these forums and we've done my best to try to resolve all the issues at the best way possible, BUT SORRY JARED, I am not take this type of threat at all. I hope you got all the paperwork from a second shop to send to your Credit Card company.

Omg god holy engrish batman.. Im assuming English is not your primary language??

This sounds like someone did not prime theyre turbos, which is not uncommon.

[Das General]

You know you suck with grammar when Dr. Duct is calling you out...

[Dr.Duct]

You know you suck with grammar when Dr. Duct is calling you out...

lol no shit man.

[audspeed]

I am just trying to clarify something in here what is going on, and sorry you guys for my english as my background are German and portuguese.

[jaredsogn]

Omg god holy engrish batman.. Im assuming English is not your primary language??

This sounds like someone did not prime theyre turbos, which is not uncommon.

Nope, they were primed before installation, as well as primed by pulling the ECU and cranking the engine over a few times for about 10 seconds each time. There was no evidence of oil starvation. Did you happen to see the pictures of the turbos before installation? I assumed the filing was to balance the wheels...Nope...he reused the wheels from the blown turbos I sent him, even though he charged me $100 for new wheels. He then proceeded to file down the edges of the fins to cover up the damage that was on the damaged wheels...sounds like an honest guy huh? Not to mention when it was making the whining sound, he told me to go drive it for 100 miles, because apparently, according to him, metal on metal sound is normal sometimes...

Anyways, to respond to what Audspeed posted...Yes, they were brand new CHRA's, however, when you take them apart and put different compressor wheels on them, they aren't factory balanced anymore, now are they? As for why it failed? Excessive amount of torque? I drove the car out of the garage, turned onto the street and drove off normally, and the turbo was blown before I even got above 10 InHg on my boost gauge, less than 10% throttle. So excessive torque? There is no such thing...Oil starvation? None...Blouch turbo did an analysis of the turbos, and said they failed due to IMPROPER BALANCING. The turbo that didn't blow YET was tested as well, and they said that it was 4-5 times more out of balance than specs allow. He said it would have failed shortly after the first one. Oh, and there WAS NO BOOST LEAK. I pressure tested the car several times, no leaks. Are you trying to tell me that a boost leak caused a turbo to fail that never even saw more than 10% throttle? I dont think so. Also, he HAS talked to Blouch. He called and talked to Mike at Blouch about it. He tried to feed that BS "excessive engine torque on the driver side bank" story to Mike and he said there is no such thing. As for a threat? No. I simply emailed him and told him that if we could reach a resolution, I would post online that he had settled things well and had good service. If he didn't want to work anything out, I would continue pursuing it through the credit card company, since he isn't willing to refund me, and that I would warn others of his shoddy business practices. I think it's only DECENT of me to warn others so they don't fall into the same problem. Would you guys be willing to pay $1100 for a junk set of turbos? And yes, I do have the paperwork to send to them. By the way, who do you guys think is a better failure analysis source? AN INDEPENDENT 3RD PARTY TURBO SHOP THAT IS UNBIASED, OR THE GUY WHO MACHINED AND BALANCED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE? Do you honestly think he is going to say, "Oh yeah, I balanced them wrong and thats why they failed"? Especially when he and Audspeed would have to eat the cost to fix them? Who is the better source? You guys decide!

[TweetsS4Estate]

I don't see a K04 making more horsepower than an RS6, it can't flow more air because they are smaller.. point and case. if you want to argue that take it up with the Pro's of the industry JHM, VAST, MTM, etc.

[IamEzraM]

I bought RS4 SMIC's from audspeed on ebay a while back, I was a little surprised to open the package and see two RS4 SMIC's loose and (1) page of a newspaper crumbled up as packaging. I was really lucky they weren't damaged, rather audspeed was really lucky.

[Brian@AR]

It sounds nice and all as far as the new hybrid turbo's that are being presented, but I have seen stock K04's making 603 HP with stock internals on two of my friends cars. So why would I spend a lot more to get modified turbo's that are being presented at 600HP? More power with other hybrid turbo's would be nice but if you are not happy with 600 HP in a S4 then you will never be satisfied. And 575 to 600 at the crank is about as far as you want to go anyway on stock internals, and for sure if you track your car.

Just my thoughts.

[GramCracker]

Nope, they were primed before installation, as well as primed by pulling the ECU and cranking the engine over a few times for about 10 seconds each time. There was no evidence of oil starvation. Did you happen to see the pictures of the turbos before installation? I assumed the filing was to balance the wheels...Nope...he reused the wheels from the blown turbos I sent him, even though he charged me $100 for new wheels. He then proceeded to file down the edges of the fins to cover up the damage that was on the damaged wheels...sounds like an honest guy huh? Not to mention when it was making the whining sound, he told me to go drive it for 100 miles, because apparently, according to him, metal on metal sound is normal sometimes...

Anyways, to respond to what Audspeed posted...Yes, they were brand new CHRA's, however, when you take them apart and put different compressor wheels on them, they aren't factory balanced anymore, now are they? As for why it failed? Excessive amount of torque? I drove the car out of the garage, turned onto the street and drove off normally, and the turbo was blown before I even got above 10 InHg on my boost gauge, less than 10% throttle. So excessive torque? There is no such thing...Oil starvation? None...Blouch turbo did an analysis of the turbos, and said they failed due to IMPROPER BALANCING. The turbo that didn't blow YET was tested as well, and they said that it was 4-5 times more out of balance than specs allow. He said it would have failed shortly after the first one. Oh, and there WAS NO BOOST LEAK. I pressure tested the car several times, no leaks. Are you trying to tell me that a boost leak caused a turbo to fail that never even saw more than 10% throttle? I dont think so. Also, he HAS talked to Blouch. He called and talked to Mike at Blouch about it. He tried to feed that BS "excessive engine torque on the driver side bank" story to Mike and he said there is no such thing. As for a threat? No. I simply emailed him and told him that if we could reach a resolution, I would post online that he had settled things well and had good service. If he didn't want to work anything out, I would continue pursuing it through the credit card company, since he isn't willing to refund me, and that I would warn others of his shoddy business practices. I think it's only DECENT of me to warn others so they don't fall into the same problem. Would you guys be willing to pay $1100 for a junk set of turbos? And yes, I do have the paperwork to send to them. By the way, who do you guys think is a better failure analysis source? AN INDEPENDENT 3RD PARTY TURBO SHOP THAT IS UNBIASED, OR THE GUY WHO MACHINED AND BALANCED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE? Do you honestly think he is going to say, "Oh yeah, I balanced them wrong and thats why they failed"? Especially when he and Audspeed would have to eat the cost to fix them? Who is the better source? You guys decide!

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