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    Veteran Member Three Rings rouellettea4's Avatar
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    Pretty even, not the best of conditions surrounding so we had to let off early. Will have more later.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    you need intercoolers. and it probably wouldn't be close after that.
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by lrg8683 View Post
    you need intercoolers. and it probably wouldn't be close after that.
    Until the EVO puts a GT30 or higher on

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    intercooler isn't going to make the biggest difference on the first run...it will make a huge improvement over the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th run.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    I agree haha, car falls on its face after I get on it a couple times.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings rouellettea4's Avatar
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    intercooler isn't going to make the biggest difference on the first run...it will make a huge improvement over the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th run.
    We did a few runs before this one. This was the third run I believe. The rest were really sketchy.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings JDM EJ1 95's Avatar
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    i thought this fueling kit on a stage 3 can beat 500+whp evos?


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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    With a decent intercooler, you should be able to hang with him on repeated runs, and pull on him.

    I ran a stock turbo evo with GSK 272 cams, tune, ams intercooler, turbo-back, 02 housing, mbc and he was on some race gas...and I put at least 6+ lengths on him, repeatedly. He would hang for the first gear (2nd gear, as we were doing highway pulls), then after that it was bye bye.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by rouellettea4 View Post
    I agree haha, car falls on its face after I get on it a couple times.
    Add W/M and Intercoolers.

    Derek where are you finding these battles? No one will bother with me lately at all.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by bassed View Post
    Add W/M.
    He needs intercoolers first. His IAT's are probably through the roof. But yes, IC and meth would sink those IATS.

    Spend $300 on a snow performance meth kit and another $400 on a IC setup and you are golden.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Gentleman... Let the arguements begin!
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Roulette, you are from NH?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings JDM EJ1 95's Avatar
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by Videlov View Post
    Gentleman... Let the arguements begin!

    it wont happen.. this is a very beleiveable situation.
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    138mph best trap with slipping clutch.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by JDM EJ1 95 View Post
    it wont happen.. this is a very beleiveable situation.
    I certainly hope it won't happen.
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    yeah Deb, where do you find these races, I live right next door and I cant find SHIT!

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by Euro-Tuner View Post
    yeah Deb, where do you find these races, I live right next door and I cant find SHIT!
    hahah well back when I was in the Boston area. I would hang out around New England Dragway on street nights. A lot of cars would meet up at a gas station a couple miles away. From there, we arranged some runs.

    But for the most part, I do most of my runs in Philadelphia/Southern Jersey. There is at least one large car meet a day in the tri-state area. So I would hit those up, check out the competition and do some pulls later on.. when your car is loud and has a massive front mount on it, people tend to come to you for races.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Um first thing you could do would be to roll up your windows, IC's then you'll prob do a lil better.
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by bassed View Post
    Until the EVO puts a GT30 or higher on
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q56_5yO7crMfcc gt30



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH2KEc4eVPU there's a gt35 evo near the end of that one.
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Nice race, and how many S4 vs Evo races have been posted lately haha?

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Roulette, you are from NH?

    Yoooo Derek, Richiid (roulette) is from MA 10 minutes down the road from me. He is marc tuned and i am GREG TUNED and yes rich and i have raced
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    How'd that turn out?

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    How'd that turn out?
    well not to start a war...i have the video footage, My car was running VERY bad. On the way to waterfest i nearly lost my motor as it almost overheated. I managed to get a few runs in...well im not the one to talk hahah
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Send me the footage!

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by rouellettea4 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cstkjdl7r4

    Pretty Even, Not The Best Of Conditions Surrounding So We Had To Let Off Early. Will Have More Later.

    Evo Has Cams, Ic, Full Exhaust, Tune, Mbc, Weight Reduction/rollcage, 93 Octane, Driver Only In Car.

    S4 Has Ko4s, 10sec Fueling, Stock Ic, Full Int (minus Spare/tools/cdchanger), 93 Octane, Driver Only In Car.

    Uphill Grade, ~65-70degrees... I've Learned To Try To Answer All The Questions Before The Videos Are Posted.
    Rte 190 Ftmfw
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Yes how did that turn out.
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Send me the footage!
    iight haha i have it on my brother in laws camcorder rich will have to upload it to youtube as i never have
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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    send that badboy to me. Ill host it.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    send that badboy to me. Ill host it.
    Hey hey rob, lets make sure the details are clear...

    none of this, my car was barely running bs haha. I lost fair and square but come on now.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Any of you guys interested in going up to NED next Wednesday? I am trying to get a couple other stage 3 s4's to run... it is beginning to get cool enough to run some solid times.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Any of you guys interested in going up to NED next Wednesday? I am trying to get a couple other stage 3 s4's to run... it is beginning to get cool enough to run some solid times.
    My transmission isn't cashed out, but its notchy enough i won't dare be ripping 1st-2nd shifts, I'll prob be down to spectate though. I might be up there on Friday.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    hahah well back when I was in the Boston area. I would hang out around New England Dragway on street nights. A lot of cars would meet up at a gas station a couple miles away. From there, we arranged some runs.

    But for the most part, I do most of my runs in Philadelphia/Southern Jersey. There is at least one large car meet a day in the tri-state area. So I would hit those up, check out the competition and do some pulls later on.. when your car is loud and has a massive front mount on it, people tend to come to you for races.

    Or avoid you Where is NED? I may be up in the Boston area next Thursday.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    hahaha yeah or they may avoid me...but in the philly area, it tends to draw attention. you know how EVO and Mustang owners are, they fall for the bait all of the time.


    New England Dragway is in Epping NH. About an hour north of Boston.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    hahaha yeah or they may avoid me...but in the philly area, it tends to draw attention. you know how EVO and Mustang owners are, they fall for the bait all of the time.


    New England Dragway is in Epping NH. About an hour north of Boston.
    I am headed to NH for a wedding next weekend and am driving up, heading to Montreal for a week to chill and heading down to H20 from there.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Oh nice. Where in NH? My dad has a house in Portsmouth, which is on the southeast coast of NH.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Oh nice. Where in NH? My dad has a house in Portsmouth, which is on the southeast coast of NH.
    My cousin lives in Portsmouth and the wedding is around there I believe.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    How'd that turn out?
    haha Rob vs. Rich:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia_uQckEjv4

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    Quote Originally Posted by EuroSteez View Post
    Hahahaha, old school style.

    Nah STGIIIvsSTGIII I lost fair and square, he had a couple advantages though, I'm not going to be the one to tell about them he can feel free to step in though.

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    Re: Bolt on Evo vs. S4 stg III

    robs stripped completely,lightweight battery,lighter wheels,fmic,many more mods...i give richids car more credit then it shouldve got in that pull. although i was not there,i know the 2 cars very well,2 very good friends of mine.

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