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    Established Member Two Rings tquattro2004's Avatar
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    2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

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    Hi,
    I am just curious to see, what car would win from a rolling start. My friend just picked up an 05 330ci (even thought I told him to go for 07 335i) I have 04 2.7auto. Once the weather picks up probably this weekend, will see what happens. RWD 330ci with 225hsp hmmm. projected 0-60 6.3. O yea both are auto's.
    All respones appreciated

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    Veteran Member Four Rings biggygo's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    my first thoughts - and I'm no expert - are that from a dig, you might have a chance, but from a roll (depending on starting speed, gear, etc.) you'd get smoked....I hope I'm wrong!

    If I am, let me know

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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    reflash your car and he will never get you!! haha
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    Veteran Member Four Rings wofman's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    stock 2.7 has more hp and torque, no? weight can't be all that much more... and I know nothing about gear ratios on either auto trans
    Nothing going to bring it back: 2000 C5 2.7T 6sp MT
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    Veteran Member Four Rings FrankA6's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    you would crush him, they only have 220 hp, fucking BMW's are weak and so is a 330CI, ive beat 3 of them and my car isn't even chipped yet.
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    hey Frank, your signature says cupra lip -- "in stock"?

    I think we're only supposed to list items ON the car.
    Nothing going to bring it back: 2000 C5 2.7T 6sp MT
    Ming Blue, S6 Blades, EuroSpoiler,
    GIAC-93, AWE DPs to Milltek Catback,
    RS4 Clutch, JHM DT-Stabilizer, VAST Short-Shifter,
    H&R Sways, Eibach Pro-kit, Bilstein Sport Shocks, etc., ...
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    If i'm not mistaken but the 05 330 has 250hp so it is roughly 215whp and with your 2.7T un chipped is only 250 so if you chip it you'll be at 318 chp w/ 382 fltbs torque so assume 238AWHP and the weight difference it should be a close race.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Gigi's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    330 wins. No doubt.
    BMW are anything but weak. Their v6 with less hp almost alwAys beats the competition. Plus 330 is lighter and our tips suck.
    Additionally his drivetrain powerloss is probably 10% less than Ours.
    Chip and you 'll give him a fight.
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    i would say depends on the driver skills, use a 'tip' mode, you might have a change;)
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    you will lose
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    Veteran Member Four Rings RomanA6's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    lol these are both auto's

    still, I bet 2.7T will edge out

    first you have quattro, 2nd you have 2 snails on him

    third: get a manual

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Gigi's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    when is the race?
    Seriously, considering two equal drivers, A6 loses. Quattro won't help unless you race him in the rain. It actually'd be to your detriment as you'll lose more power thru the drivetrain. He'll most likely lauch better with his tranny.YOu'll have to brake launch releasing when boost is up (I wouldn't do this too often though :) ). you have a boost gauge?

    If you race film it, i want to see it.
    Have a great day, Brice
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    Veteran Member Four Rings wofman's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    A6 loses stock? not by much -- 330i was 225 hp (+10 with 6 sp starting 2003 as "perf package"), with chip A6 wins very easily. Unfair you say? Of course not. Who would buy 2.7t and not spend $500 or so.

    Got pretty interesting when 330i hit 255hp (2006?). Game ended with 335t
    Nothing going to bring it back: 2000 C5 2.7T 6sp MT
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    stock A6 loses. weighs more and makes less power at the wheels due to quattro. chip the A6 and the 330i (any year/model) won't be a problem.

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    Established Member Two Rings tquattro2004's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    Quote Originally Posted by Gigi View Post
    when is the race?
    Seriously, considering two equal drivers, A6 loses. Quattro won't help unless you race him in the rain. It actually'd be to your detriment as you'll lose more power thru the drivetrain. He'll most likely lauch better with his tranny.YOu'll have to brake launch releasing when boost is up (I wouldn't do this too often though :) ). you have a boost gauge?

    If you race film it, i want to see it.
    I will try to film if I can. Maybe this weekend some time. We are both good drivers, and drive close to similar styles. I do not have a boost gauge yet. (want to get the vent boost gauge in the future when I get my GIAC chip)
    I don't know if I want to brake launch release. Haven't done that yet. I drove his car a little today (under 60 & it wasn't as quick as I expected) but quick.
    Will see what happens.
    I'll keep you guys informed

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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankA6 View Post
    you would crush him, they only have 220 hp, fucking BMW's are weak and so is a 330CI, ive beat 3 of them and my car isn't even chipped yet.
    I own both.....You will win in a straight line but get smoked in the twisties, I've tested this.
    If its a zhp it will be closer

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    Established Member Two Rings tquattro2004's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisbostonusmc View Post
    I own both.....You will win in a straight line but get smoked in the twisties, I've tested this.
    If its a zhp it will be closer
    In the twisties? I have taken some pretty sick turns well with no screeching or anything. For the weight difference I guess I could see it. For the boat it is, She handles very well. Stock weight on the bmw is close to 3300lbs
    2.7 is 3960lbs

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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    Quote Originally Posted by tquattro2004 View Post
    In the twisties? I have taken some pretty sick turns well with no screeching or anything. For the weight difference I guess I could see it. For the boat it is, She handles very well. Stock weight on the bmw is close to 3300lbs
    2.7 is 3960lbs
    Front/Rear weight distribution is why they handle better BMW does everything possible to make it perfect like locating the battery in the trunk and a whole bunch of other stuff.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings RomanA6's Avatar
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    Re: 2004 2.7 A6 VS 2005 BMW 330ci

    the biggest problem is going to be because the car is a Tip

    I've never had any troubles with anyone off the line, but my car is a 6-speed

    I dont see why you guys are saying the 2.7T is going to loose

    I want a video of this too lol

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