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    Alcons or Porsche BBK

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    lets see. alcons are specifically designed for your car... porsche brakes are designed for a rear engined RWD car...
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by Papachristou View Post
    lets see. alcons are specifically designed for your car... porsche brakes are designed for a rear engined RWD car...

    eaaaaaaaasy turbo.. was just asking a question.

    I already have alcons :) I just wanted to see what people thought of alcons vs a porsche bbk..

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    stoptech is junk...
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Mov-it brakes

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    stoptech is junk...
    False. Are we going to do the cracked rotor hat thing? If so, I'll have my mechanic post his pics of Alcons and/or Brembos with the same problem. The fact is that they all will crack if you drive in the salt. It's dissimilar metals and that's why it happens. I told him about the post on Audiworld regarding the cracked rotor hats and he has pictures of all of them cracking. In fact, I'll do you one better. Call Al at CPT or e-mail [email protected]. And for your info, he sells all of them...Stoptech, Brembo, and Alcon. He'll tell you how they all crack.

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    I have seen plenty of EVO guys have stoptech issues. Not just audis.
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Alcon > Brembo > Stoptech&Porsche

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by Only1Z View Post
    False. Are we going to do the cracked rotor hat thing? If so, I'll have my mechanic post his pics of Alcons and/or Brembos with the same problem. The fact is that they all will crack if you drive in the salt. It's dissimilar metals and that's why it happens. I told him about the post on Audiworld regarding the cracked rotor hats and he has pictures of all of them cracking. In fact, I'll do you one better. Call Al at CPT or e-mail [email protected]. And for your info, he sells all of them...Stoptech, Brembo, and Alcon. He'll tell you how they all crack.
    They do not warranty shit! Stoptech's warranty basically ends as soon as the item is out of their hands.
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Only thing that sucks about the alcons is the 'rebuild' kit is $1100

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    AP Racing is another great option.

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    AP Racing??
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    AP Racing is pretty good quality as well:


    i like these:
    REARS:

    FRONTS:

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Fuck yeah, dont complain about our economy if your not willing to buy some quality U.S. shit, and for anyone who say's Brembo's better... yeah thats why Nascar uses brembo right?.. not so much.

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by laxman851 View Post
    Fuck yeah, dont complain about our economy if your not willing to buy some quality U.S. shit, and for anyone who say's Brembo's better... yeah thats why Nascar uses brembo right?.. not so much.
    if i had the money, i'd get AP racing brakes.
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    stoptech...if you got money to burn buy the alcons.

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    aren't Porsche brakes made by brembo?
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    I just ordered the 13" 4piston AP racing setup, ill letcha know how it is.

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4 View Post
    aren't Porsche brakes made by brembo?
    Yep! Brembo just lets Porsche throw their name on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BastardS4 View Post
    I just ordered the 13" 4piston AP racing setup, ill letcha know how it is.
    Through who?

    I love mine!

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    im gonna go with the ECS stage 4 kit when I do my BBK... brembo 6 pot for 1850 ? why not.... but with that big of a caliper up front, i have to do something to the back otherwise its going to look funny.
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    ^^^
    is there any way to adapt a porsche rear caliper to an s4 with using the stock rear brake caliper

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    i have 8 stoptech rotors, all 8 look like this, along with 2 of the caliper brackets.



    check out this AW thread that got locked b/c stoptech is a paying advertiser ... no free speech on forums guys. watch out.
    http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/2838940.phtml
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    i'd go with brembo's!!!! IF ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR PORSCHE!! ITS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD ENOUGH 4 MY AUDI!! do you guys forget that porche's are the ultimate racing cars??? WOW.. alcon my asss.. brembo has been making quality brakes for soo long!!
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by Only1Z View Post
    False. Are we going to do the cracked rotor hat thing? If so, I'll have my mechanic post his pics of Alcons and/or Brembos with the same problem. The fact is that they all will crack if you drive in the salt. It's dissimilar metals and that's why it happens. I told him about the post on Audiworld regarding the cracked rotor hats and he has pictures of all of them cracking. In fact, I'll do you one better. Call Al at CPT or e-mail [email protected]. And for your info, he sells all of them...Stoptech, Brembo, and Alcon. He'll tell you how they all crack.
    yes it will happen anytime 2 metals with a large delta in eletronegativities are in contact in each other along with salt or some other catalyst ... but

    have your mechanic post pics of brembos / alcons with cracking hats, and i will summon the power of the 'dissatisfied stoptech user' and we will see who takes over.
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by SurferD View Post
    Stoptech
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    dont you mean China? lol

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by YMJ View Post
    i'd go with brembo's!!!! IF ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR PORSCHE!! ITS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD ENOUGH 4 MY AUDI!! do you guys forget that porche's are the ultimate racing cars??? WOW.. alcon my asss.. brembo has been making quality brakes for soo long!!
    the brembos that go on P-cars are their bottom of the line stuff. yes brembo makes some awesome higher end stuff but for the money Alcon wins hands down.

    Saying "alcon my ass" makes you look slightly more ignorant than your comment about porsche... hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassed View Post
    Through who?

    I love mine!
    What rotors do you have with those? Where did you get the kit? Looks nice for a non two-piece rotor package.
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Who knows alot about Movit? They look pretty hardcore.

    Brembo gets my vote.

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by JaredVL View Post
    the brembos that go on P-cars are their bottom of the line stuff. yes brembo makes some awesome higher end stuff but for the money Alcon wins hands down.

    Saying "alcon my ass" makes you look slightly more ignorant than your comment about porsche... hahaha
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by Papachristou View Post
    lets see. alcons are specifically designed for your car... porsche brakes are designed for a rear engined RWD car...


    ehh this isnt essentially true.. the porsche calipers are your standard 4 piston brembos... not really "designed" differently for the porsche..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDM EJ1 95 View Post
    ehh this isnt essentially true.. the porsche calipers are your standard 4 piston brembos... not really "designed" differently for the porsche..
    Just like the Brembo's found on the EVO 8, 9 and 10. A good amount of those guys still upgrade as well.

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by JDM EJ1 95 View Post
    ehh this isnt essentially true.. the porsche calipers are your standard 4 piston brembos... not really "designed" differently for the porsche..
    are you positive that the piston sizes are the same?

    people tend to overlook a lot of details

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by JaredVL View Post
    Saying "alcon my ass" makes you look slightly more ignorant than your comment about porsche... hahaha
    Porche's hold the best times in the Nurburgring !!!!!! go check out the RACING section and the production vehicles!! porsche is the ONLY company to have THREEEEEEEE cars in the TOP 10!! that's including the RUFF RT12 !!!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times so my friend , what's so ignorant about saying PORSCHE's are the ultimate racing cars??? are you stuck with a foot in you're mouth??? its okay.. just go read !! you must NOT know alot about racing and the technologies that porsche has brought to racing!! and i'll take brembo's over alcons any day!! for 1800 the Stage 4 kit that brembo/porsche is the BEST DEAL for the price!
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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by YMJ View Post
    Porche's hold the best times in the Nurburgring !!!!!! go check out the RACING section and the production vehicles!! porsche is the ONLY company to have THREEEEEEEE cars in the TOP 10!! that's including the RUFF RT12 !!!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times so my friend , what's so ignorant about saying PORSCHE's are the ultimate racing cars??? are you stuck with a foot in you're mouth??? its okay.. just go read !! you must NOT know alot about racing and the technologies that porsche has brought to racing!! and i'll take brembo's over alcons any day!! for 1800 the Stage 4 kit that brembo/porsche is the BEST DEAL for the price!

    Holy shit Jared, this kid just pwn3333d~~!!11! you!



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    lol you are a funny guy...i think you have been blinded by your "interior Xenon kit" lmao

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Yea Jared. Go work for a company that has had multiple, highly competative race cars before you open your mouth again. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about... oh wait.

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    Re: Alcons or Porsche BBK

    Quote Originally Posted by Dowskeet View Post
    Who knows alot about Movit? They look pretty hardcore.

    Brembo gets my vote.
    At the track (SCCA), I usually see a lot of Brembos, Wilwoods and AP, but who really needs (or can afford) the latter? My dad has a set of 6-pot Wilwoods on the GT1 Camaro (~650hp), and those are some seeeerious calipers. I've occasionally seen Alcons and Movits too, but I think these are more popular for street applications (at least in the S.E. United States).

    If I could afford the Alcons I'd def. go there, and I'm growing increasingly less comfortable with Stop-Tech. You really can't beat the ECS BBK kits for the price, and they're essentially Brembo equipment which is good quality. Someone was mentioning that they've had good success at the track with a set of A4 brakes, good pads, lines, and fluid. I might just go with some 4-pots just to be safe though
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