APR gone... hello REVO TECHNIK

[Geoffafa]

well as most of you have read my post/rant about my car running like shit. i diagnosed it to be software related. but some haters chose to not follow my opinions and claim fuel pump. all drama aside, i switched from APR to REVO, all my problems on 3rd and 4th WOT are gone. car runs amazing, i am in love with it just as i was when i first got software...


thanks to all those who believed me... and for those who had the same problem i did ITS YOUR SOFTWARE!!

[AudiWxGuy]

Maybe you should've contacted APR so they can fix the problem and send a software update...They might have even hooked you up...

[Anthony]

That's odd, I loved my 2.0T APR software. I never had the problems you were describing. And it sounds more like you had deniers, rather than haters.

[Slo.Mo.Shun.]

Another job well done. I believe he did get in contact with APR beforehand, but I don't know what came from that.

[Josh_877]

Glad to see you got it fixed man, i thought it was a fuel related problem too, but i guess you just got cursed with a bad apr chip.

[CapstoneJHS]

APR > Revo

[Auditude2.0T]

i think im having the same problem.

[Geoffafa]

ive come to the conclusion that some cars run better on APR some better on REVO, every car is different, i just have the luxury of having a shop with an awesome tech and great friends. they have some cars running really hard on revo. but then again, i know of a couple (very few) mkv gti's thatrun hard on APR

[Quattro]

REVO FTW!

but great to hear your car is fixed and running ballerrr

[Mr.BMW]

how exactly did you come to the conclusion it was software related? and did you check if there were any software updates, ive heard of many companys doing updates on their software even for different elevations. i belive that it was the software, i was just wondering what had you so convinced to go spend that much money to perhaps find out you were wrong. glad you got it figured out though, happy tuning.

[VZWalex]

in my experience I have found that sometimes the file ends up being corrupt thus causing issues like the wot 3rd and 4th. I am currently having the same issue and after speaking with a few peeps I think ill go get s re-flash of my APR software to make sure thats not the problem ... If its the software in which my car will run better on different software ... i guess I will have to go and try something else out.....


maybe APR will have a updated software file =)

[Mr.Audi]

well as most of you have read my post/rant about my car running like shit. i diagnosed it to be software related. but some haters chose to not follow my opinions and claim fuel pump. all drama aside, i switched from APR to REVO, all my problems on 3rd and 4th WOT are gone. car runs amazing, i am in love with it just as i was when i first got software...


thanks to all those who believed me... and for those who had the same problem i did ITS YOUR SOFTWARE!!

other then aleviating all the wot issues you were having.. do you notice any recognizable differences in the chips? (other then the obvious issues)

[AudiWxGuy]

I had a similar issue on APR software. From what I was told, it was b/c I needed a FSI pump....Part of the reason I decided to get my money back and get an exhaust instead.

[D-techniK]

to you for fixing your car. In the end what matters is that you are happy with your ride. (it's not like anyone on this forum makes your car payment for you) I personally have APR and I am happy. I see you do have an upgraded pump. Maybe APRs software only works well with the APR pump?
Feedback from other people on this forum is good but just mod your ride in a way that pleases yourself.

[D.C. Designs]

gald you got the problem fixed and happy tuning :)

[Geoffafa]

other then aleviating all the wot issues you were having.. do you notice any recognizable differences in the chips? (other then the obvious issues)

yes actually alot more low end torque, rolling at about 2,000 RPM's in second, i can now punch it, and when boost hits around 3k i can light up the tires on a roll. :) and aside from that its alot smoother, i dont feel as big of a kick back when hitting boost due to the increased torque. i love it, car feels like it runs now, how it should have been running 15 months ago when i bought it.

plus a little side note, i got to 150mph last night (professional driver, closed course)... something i havent been able to do since i was stg 1 APR, because of the over boosting problem i always had in stage two

[turbo4s]

APR > Revo

Other way around Bro. tried all of the software companies on many of my cars. everyone is different but when it comes down to true happyness you should get what you want. Revo works best for me. especially my GLI, really flys

[EUROTEK//S4]

It would be cool if you could try the chip/software before you buy it...like a 7 day trial or something....with all the tuning co.

[Jersey Stephen]

REVO>apr i beat a srt4 with stage 2 driving home frome water fest cant do that with apr

[quattrosaint]

well as most of you have read my post/rant about my car running like shit. i diagnosed it to be software related. but some haters chose to not follow my opinions and claim fuel pump. all drama aside, i switched from APR to REVO, all my problems on 3rd and 4th WOT are gone. car runs amazing, i am in love with it just as i was when i first got software...


thanks to all those who believed me... and for those who had the same problem i did ITS YOUR SOFTWARE!!

Thanks, thats what I needed to hear. Now I know, finally somebody who made the switch. Oh I am having the exact same problem and I have the APR fuel pump. As much as I doubted before that APR was the issue, I'm going to have it flashed with REVO next week to see what happens.

[gaede]

glad your happy, and welcome to the REVO family :)

[davis449]

REVO>apr i beat a srt4 with stage 2 driving home frome water fest cant do that with apr

Ummm...yeah you can...but whatever.

[yettavr6]

Wow, i think you pretty much convinced me to get REVO. I was pretty set on APR but after this thread and the other "Fuel Cut WTF?" one i think i'm gonna go with REVO. The fact that its cheaper helps too....

[VZWalex]

Thanks, thats what I needed to hear. Now I know, finally somebody who made the switch. Oh I am having the exact same problem and I have the APR fuel pump. As much as I doubted before that APR was the issue, I'm going to have it flashed with REVO next week to see what happens.

same here .. im getting my oil change tomorrow ( monday ) so i will see what happens and report ! lets end this fuel cut issue crap once and for all!

[Geoffafa]

right on! I'm glad I was able to help so many people solve their problems. The more I drive my revo car the more I love it. Hope you guys feel the same

[CoreyRandmetz]

glad you got your car fixed and back to normal.

[DownUnderSLine]

I've been following your threads with interest as there seems to be a lot of mixed results from users of the APR fuel pump & software. I'm not here to hate but in an effort to provide some clarity on your particular case:

- were you running APRs Fuel Pump file but running an Autotech (rather than APR) Fuel Pump ?
- did you inspect for the cam lobe issue ?
- did you replace the fuel filter or have the rail pressure tested ?

Again, I'm not here to hate but for your situation there could be other factors at play rather than APR getting it wrong.... not saying that they got it right either... Just that I would not expect the APR Fuel pump file to be ideal for any car not running the APR pump.

It could simply be a case of the Revo map calling fuel within the scope of the Autotech FP where as the APR maps were calling fuel beyond what the Autotech FP could deliver. (therefore leaning out)

Anyway - It's a shame APR are leaving so many users out in the cold with these issues but I think it's important to point out that your case might be different to the others raised throughout AZ lately...

Glad to hear your car is now running better than it was with Revo running the numbers ! Cheers...

[grizzles]

Good to hear you are up and running again....so did you debadge the interior yet?

[Slo.Mo.Shun.]

- were you running APRs Fuel Pump file but running an Autotech (rather than APR) Fuel Pump ?
- did you inspect for the cam lobe issue ?
- did you replace the fuel filter or have the rail pressure tested ?

Im pretty sure they checked for all of the above except for the fuel filter, they are obsessive at that shop when it comes to fuel cut and cam wear on any 2.0T.

When both test pumps came out they tested APR and Autotech on the Dyno, and both yielded nearly identical results ( Logs and HP ), however the APR pump took a major s**t on the third run. APR took forever to replace it so the decided to favor the Autotech update.

[nick71692]

MTM ftw, i am thouroghly impressed with them and it sounds much like the revo, power comes on strong at 3k all the way to the redline. I almost got apr, now im glad i didnt. Would of gotten revo but didnt have a dealer near me. Good luck with the new chip

[Slo.Mo.Shun.]

Good to hear you are up and running again....so did you debadge the interior yet?

No, but next time I see him, Ill start taking them one by one.

[Mike@Startup]

Some times you just get a bad flash, & it doesn't run right. I had this problem with GIAC on my S4.

However, while APR makes great stuff, REVO has many more options. It can easily custom tuned to any car. It can also be easily changed when you add a exhaust, intake, or even a new turbo. The extra programs are also far cheaper. My full program GIAC ECU was over $1400!!! With REVO it would have been under $1000.

REVO works very, very well with the 2.0t, I saw on a Mustang dyno over 80ft-lbs of torque & 50 hp!

[Geoffafa]

Good to hear you are up and running again....so did you debadge the interior yet?

damn talking about archiving threads! lmao, and yes the wonderful badge of awesomness is already been removed, actually as i was removing apr from the ecu, i was slowly removing the letters, for dramatic effect.. lol

[Geoffafa]

I've been following your threads with interest as there seems to be a lot of mixed results from users of the APR fuel pump & software. I'm not here to hate but in an effort to provide some clarity on your particular case:

- were you running APRs Fuel Pump file but running an Autotech (rather than APR) Fuel Pump ?
- did you inspect for the cam lobe issue ?
- did you replace the fuel filter or have the rail pressure tested ?

Again, I'm not here to hate but for your situation there could be other factors at play rather than APR getting it wrong.... not saying that they got it right either... Just that I would not expect the APR Fuel pump file to be ideal for any car not running the APR pump.

It could simply be a case of the Revo map calling fuel within the scope of the Autotech FP where as the APR maps were calling fuel beyond what the Autotech FP could deliver. (therefore leaning out)

Anyway - It's a shame APR are leaving so many users out in the cold with these issues but I think it's important to point out that your case might be different to the others raised throughout AZ lately...

Glad to hear your car is now running better than it was with Revo running the numbers ! Cheers...

glad to find someone here with respect, yes, we did check everything and as HID said, the autotech pump actually outperformed the APR one. aside from that, i ran the pump with and without the fuel pump file, absolutely no difference. Now with revo i am not running a fuel pump file, just the pump and everything runs in perfect harmony. and as far as cam lobe issue, yes that was also checked when the fuel puimp was initially installed, all was fine, the cam lobe and the cam follower cap were checked again at the 30,000 mile oil change (which occured on tuesday 9-2-08) The cap was shown to be worn down and therefore replaced, again no difference i never did look at the fuel filter, but i did have everything else u mentioned tested. i highly doubt it was the filter, since now i changed software, and i am running amazing.
Again thanks for coming to me with respect, not like some assholes here