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    Lightbulb A.W.E. Exhaust Interior Drone FIX - First Impressions (PICS are up)

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    First, just to get these things out of the way...
    - YES, the "fix" can be retrofitted
    - NO, I did not record any videos or measure the sound; I only used my god-given sensors and abilities (namely ear and butt dyno)
    - NO, I do not work for A.W.E
    - Pictures will be uploaded tonight

    Original topic with user complaints and concerns regarding the high level of interior drone at low to mid level RPM's:
    http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229649

    My setup:
    2007 Audi A4 2.0TQ Tiptronic with Catback A.W.E Exhaust (*no* aftermarket test pipe or down pipe)

    Responding to the above thread, A.W.E offered to retrofit a new 'trick' onto my exhaust as a tester to see how effective it was at reducing interior drone. The actual modification is very simple and just consists of welding in a perforated section onto the inner wall of the exhaust tips.

    My highly scientific test runs consisted of multiple trips on local roads and highways with several passengers (accelerating from 0-35mph, cruising at 45mph, cruising at 60mph and 75mph with occasional passing).

    The results:

    A significant drop in interior drone; 30-40% reduction (most reduction from 2200-3000rpm). Went from about 80% of the passengers complaining to ~20%. the exterior noise appears to be unaffected - it is still deep, smooth and sexy (people were asking me whether my car was a rs4) and the modification had no perceivable effect on throttle response.

    update - 9/8/08 ... returned from road trip where i was usually cruising around 80-85mph, 2500-2800rpm. at these points, the 30-40% reduction in drone i thought i heard earlier is a little too enthusiastic. i would revise it to say that at these cruising speeds and rpm range, there is probably a 20-25% reduction in drone. still good, still noticeable, but not as significant as i originally thought. end update.

    >2000rpm - very quiet, almost stock
    2000-3000rpm - much, much better at highway cruising speeds.. before, the drone was unbearable for backseat passengers. there IS some drone, esp. when accelerating hard from a stop, but it's tolerable, much better than before. i actually like it - it's got an aggressive tone and lets you know you're on the gas but without the over obnoxious drone
    <3000rpm - drone at higher rpm's was never too bad but it's almost all but canceled out now, just leaving a very nice aggressive growl

    Conclusion:
    Don't expect any miracles (Lexus tomb ride), you will still have some drone, moreso if you have a testpipe, but if you're looking for a significant / noticeable reduction of interior drone from 2-3k rpm range; this fix is money. A minimal amount of drone is inevitable in a high-flow system and maybe even desireable

    Your more sensitive passengers, especially those in the backseat, will still complain but again, with a high flow system/aftermarket exhaust, I don't think you'll ever get 100% passenger satisfaction.

    A.W.E's been great about this whole situation, and their customer service is top notch.. I'm glad to see companies like A.W.E, Stasis, etc. involved in the Audi community and responding to customer needs and complaints

    I was bordering on ditching the exhaust because of the drone... With this new fix, I feel good recommending A.W.E's exhaust system whereas before, I had some qualms about doing so. Plus, the preforations on the tips look cool

    Todd or someone from A.W.E will provide more details on availability but from what I know, the modified tips will cost $75 to order *OR* they'll weld in the fix for free if you send in your old A.W.E tips

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    Re: A.W.E. Exhaust Interior Drone FIX - First Impressions (photos coming soon)

    Sweet, will AWE be selling the new tips or will this be a DIY thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by viperdsa View Post
    Sweet, will AWE be selling the new tips or will this be a DIY thing?
    Todd or someone from A.W.E will provide more details on availability but from what I know, the modified tips will cost $75 to order *OR* they'll weld in the fix for free if you send in your old A.W.E tips
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    AWE FTW, I was starting to get tired of the drone with the HFC.
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    haha yeah, i'll be putting it through a big-time test this weekend.. going on a road trip cruising 80-90mph the whole way.
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    Re: A.W.E. Exhaust Interior Drone FIX - First Impressions (photos coming soon)

    Thanks for the post, muffinman! Glad this had the intended results.

    For other owners of our B6 or B7 single outlet catback, we can offer a low cost retrofit to your systems if you are sensitive to the drone.

    For $75 plus shipping we'll send you a new set of tips with the perforated insert welded in. All you do is swap these tips with your current tips.

    OR

    You can contact us for details on how to send us your current tips for us to install this perforated insert. The cost is free (excluding shipping) for all original purchasers of our system. All you have to do is provide proof of purchase from us or an authorized reseller. Otherwise, there is a small fee of $25 plus shipping to non-original purchasers.

    If you would like to purchase tips or send them to us for modification, please e-mail us:

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    Re: A.W.E. Exhaust Interior Drone FIX - First Impressions (photos coming soon)

    Oh, and all current backorders of our single outlet systems will get this fix done to them.

    All quad outlet systems that shipped last week already have this fix installed.




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    BIG ups to AWE for such fast/prompt response to customer feedback. NEVER have I seen this from any other company that sells any other product, flat out.

    This really makes me want to go AWE when I save enough for exhaust. Top-notch, Todd!

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    its a mark of a good company when theyre willing to fix a complaint for free (via swap) when you know it costs them time and money. thumbs up.
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    This is awesome. You guys will be getting my tips soon.

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    This is great news. Now I can be confident and purchase a set soon. Thanks AWE for listening to your customer's needs. Thumbs up.
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    Thanks for listening to the enthusiasts. The AWE quad tip is back on my list.

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    I was never concerned enough about my AWE exhaust to actually complain about it, but I wouldn't mind some reduction in drone type noise from 2-3k. I'll have to look into this... won't be hard to remove the tips and mail them off to AWE.

    And needless to say I am pretty impressed with the quick attention and resolution this got from AWE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd/A.W.E. View Post
    Oh, and all current backorders of our single outlet systems will get this fix done to them.

    All quad outlet systems that shipped last week already have this fix installed.
    So my system when i get it will already have this done? are you just doing this from now on to all your systems?
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    cant wait to see pics...im not sure if i got the fix or not...just got my system today....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtracer20 View Post
    cant wait to see pics...im not sure if i got the fix or not...just got my system today....
    i'll have some up tonight after work for ya.

    hope to have some more insight i can share after my road trip this weekend as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstarky15 View Post
    So my system when i get it will already have this done? are you just doing this from now on to all your systems?
    Are you currently on our backorder list? All systems new systems sold from now on will have this fix pre-installed.

    Quote Originally Posted by vtracer20
    cant wait to see pics...im not sure if i got the fix or not...just got my system today....
    PM me your name and which system you ordered and I will let you know if it has the fix or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex/A.W.E. View Post
    Are you currently on our backorder list? All systems new systems sold from now on will have this fix pre-installed.
    I was told i'm on the list. I was told i would be notified when they are in and a "ship date"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstarky15 View Post
    I was told i'm on the list. I was told i would be notified when they are in and a "ship date"

    If you are on our backorder list then your system will be shipped with this drone fix pre-installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex/A.W.E. View Post
    If you are on our backorder list then your system will be shipped with this drone fix pre-installed.
    Thats very nice to know. Thanks
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    Sounds like it's worth the 20 minute drive up, especially for the reverb-wagon machine
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    whoever was asking you if your car is a RS4 clearly doesn't know what an rs4 looks like a d has no idea what a v8 sounds like
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    whoever was asking you if your car is a RS4 clearly doesn't know what an rs4 looks like a d has no idea what a v8 sounds like
    thanks captain obvious - not everyone is a car enthusiast.. unless you're looking at them side-to-side, the differences between a rs4 and modified a4 are only apparent to Audi enthusiasts

    my car's debadged, lowered, and has rs4 reps; the stance and look of the car is much more planted and wider than the typical a4 most people see everyday.

    the other day, i was taking a colleague out when a rs4 drove past me from the other direction - my colleague said, "hey look, you guys have same car, the same wheels too"

    but seriously.. i've been asked *several* times whether my car was a s4 or rs4. i think its pretty funny
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    So i guess you got the tips off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexK View Post
    So i guess you got the tips off?
    haha yeah, it was a bitch. i ended up taking it to the shop anyway because i couldn't torque the clamp enough to get a good grip on the new modified tips... trying to do it with a little wrench, at a wierd angle and with the car not suspended sucks
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    I'm ordering one of these systems. I guess they are going to let me know in 2 weeks when they get them in stock. So all the systems have this fix? So will the car not have any exhaust noise at 2-3k rpms? What will it sound like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chr1sJohnson View Post
    I'm ordering one of these systems. I guess they are going to let me know in 2 weeks when they get them in stock. So all the systems have this fix? So will the car not have any exhaust noise at 2-3k rpms? What will it sound like?
    Read my first post and Todd's subsequent responses

    Short answer.. all new systems have this fix, there WILL be exhaust noise and there WILL be exhaust drone from 2-3rpm ... just not as much as before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muffinman View Post
    thanks captain obvious - not everyone is a car enthusiast.. unless you're looking at them side-to-side, the differences between a rs4 and modified a4 are only apparent to Audi enthusiasts


    My girlfriends is not a car enthiast and when I parked next to an RS4, she easily noticed the differences. However, I did not know you had RS4 reps, so in that case, I could see someone mistaking the car.
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    So i would deff recommend this exahust to EVERYONE!. Just got done putting it on (quad tip), i wont post pics or movies or anything till i'm done with the car (waiting on rear valence and spacers). But the sounds coming out of my car is just sooo sweet. Much quieter than i expected. Was a b*tch to access the three bolts that connect to the downpipe. But after about 4 and 1/2 hours i'm very pleased with the purchase. between 2 to 3k it does get a little on the loud side but you know what i could care less. Still gotta tweak around a little bit but like i said i need my rear valence so i can truely see it sit. Go buy this thing RIGHT NOW!!!!


    THANKS AWE for one great product, fit i would give it a 8/10 just cause i'm still having rubbin issues that i gotta tweak around, deff some clearences are tight. Finish is a 10/10, the thing shines like it should. Exhaust note 10/10, just like i expected, their vids on their website seem to have it louder than it is. Thanks agian.

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    Awesome -- i'm really looking forward to getting a call from AWE soon saying that they are ready to ship their systems.

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    Cool fix, curious to see pics

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    Pictures of the new modified tips:


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    Nice.. I wonder how it can reduce the noise.
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    All i'll say i'm very pleased that i got the quad tip....and yup looks like i did get the drone fix. still little loud between 2-3k but if it was much louder without that mod i'm glad they fixed it. Damn clearances are tight, starting to get rattles, time to get under the car agian.

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    UPDATE bump -

    back from the road trip; some revised impressions: i may have been a little TOO over-enthusiastic about the drone reduction. i was able to cruise 80-85mph, 2600-2800rpm, the whole way and the drone was still *slightly* bothersome; still better than before but not the 30-40% reduction i originally thought i heard.

    i would say it's more of a 20-30% reduction in drone... still good, and still a very noticeable difference, but not quite as significant as before.

    again, this applies to the ~2500-2800rpm ranges at high constant cruising speeds (80-85mph).
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    I'll chime in:

    After driving with the quad tip exhaust + drone fix i'm quite happy with it. First few days it was kinda loud but it almost seems things are quieting down. I've gotten complement all around town as i drive around. for me between 1500 to just before 3k is loudest. It does drone a little in the cabin but nothing too drastic. I drove around friend the other day and none of them said anything. I think it's really personal preferance. I'm very happy with it.

    PS: I dont know how loud it is without the drone fix so i dont really know how much the fix quieted the drone within the cabin.

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    What does everyone think of the new look of the tips? I can't decide whether I like em or not

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    Re: A.W.E. Exhaust Interior Drone FIX - First Impressions (PICS are up)

    I LOVE it!!!

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    Re: A.W.E. Exhaust Interior Drone FIX - First Impressions (PICS are up)

    Sounds like I'm going to be driving around without tips for a few days.
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    Re: A.W.E. Exhaust Interior Drone FIX - First Impressions (PICS are up)

    awe always comes threw with good customer support...yet to have a bad run-in with them.

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