Are they telling the truth?

[NSYRS4]

Just bought a 2008 RS4. Best performance sedan I have ever driven/owned. Has been consuming a quart of oil every 2500 miles. Seems rediculous to keep oil in trunk like I did for my '56 Mercury!!! Dealer says this is normal oil consumption. Anxious to hear from other RS4 owners. Thanks

[channad]

better oil may help...

[iconoclast]

Just bought a 2008 RS4. Best performance sedan I have ever driven/owned. Has been consuming a quart of oil every 2500 miles. Seems rediculous to keep oil in trunk like I did for my '56 Mercury!!! Dealer says this is normal oil consumption. Anxious to hear from other RS4 owners. Thanks

iirc, for the first 5k-7500 miles its typical. (.5qt every 600 miles something to that effect)

[MOFSTEEL]

Why can't anyone spell ridiculous correctly?

[CHECKERED]

better oil may help...

I second that.

I use Mobil1 15-50W with 1/2 quart of Lucas Oil Stabilizer…ask me if I have oil cusumption issue…DO IT….hehehe…. ;)

[RS4POWER]

Dont do anything ridiculous by changing/adding different oils in this engine other than castrol 5w40. Up to 7k miles i had to tap it with oil all the time. It seemed almost as much as I had to put gas in it.

Be careful with the car through this part. I know youll be tempted to push it from time to time and that will dictate how often youll have to tap it off.

So, just be careful and relax its common on high revving engines like the rs4's

[RAudi Driver]

Totally disagree. Get that castrol out of there and toss in some Motul Excess 5/40. My RS4's oil light came on at 750 miles and I took it to the dealer. The guy brought out a teapot and topped it off to the middle of the dipstick. I took the car back to the house drained out all of the oil and refilled it with some Motul Excess 5/40. The car now has 4k on it and haven't had to add any oil yet. Gonna do another oil change tonight as it's past 3k since the last one.

Channa, I forgot your oil of choice (ooc) . To the OP, Channa's oil is top notch stuff also. Motul is just easy for me to obtain as it's at my buddy's shop.

BTW, Mobil 1 is good, but doesn't even hold a candle to Motul and Channa's ooc.

[SuperAvant]

Totally disagree. Get that castrol out of there and toss in some Motul Excess 5/40. My RS4's oil light came on at 750 miles and I took it to the dealer. The guy brought out a teapot and topped it off to the middle of the dipstick. I took the car back to the house drained out all of the oil and refilled it with some Motul Excess 5/40. The car now has 4k on it and haven't had to add any oil yet. Gonna do another oil change tonight as it's past 3k since the last one.

Channa, I forgot your oil of choice (ooc) . To the OP, Channa's oil is top notch stuff also. Motul is just easy for me to obtain as it's at my buddy's shop.

BTW, Mobil 1 is good, but doesn't even hold a candle to Motul and Channa's ooc.

I used Motul in the my last oil change and didnt last any longer than the Mobil 1 I used. Considering I change the oil every 5K, I dont think Motul has much of an advantage over Mobil 1.

[cellg8]

How about Amsoil???

[iconoclast]

Dont do anything ridiculous by changing/adding different oils in this engine other than castrol 5w40. Up to 7k miles i had to tap it with oil all the time. It seemed almost as much as I had to put gas in it.

Be careful with the car through this part. I know youll be tempted to push it from time to time and that will dictate how often youll have to tap it off.

So, just be careful and relax its common on high revving engines like the rs4's

2nd. the break-in process is crucial... this isnt the first car to have this issue, m5 has had this issue since the e39 days, all through current models... if youre still consuming oil at a rapid rate after 7500 miles, then start to look into it...

[khyber]

Whoever owned my car before me must have slaughtered it through the break in period... I have Mobil 1 0-40 in it and I've had to top it off anywhere between 1-2 quarts every 2k miles basically. Maybe I'll switch to Motul or something next time. I've got almost 120k miles on my B6 S4, any opinions on what weight I should use? I'm not too oil savvy. But to answer the ops question, I think that it is generally normal for our cars to burn a good amount of oil. But it sounds like there are good ways to prevent or prolong this as others in the post have stated.

[channad]

Channa, I forgot your oil of choice (ooc) . To the OP, Channa's oil is top notch stuff also.

When I first got the car, I had low oil after 1100 miles. I put in Lubro-Moly 5-40 and I didn't have any low oil issues when going for my 5K mile service. Had my oil changed at stealership at 5K miles with Lubro-Moly. I just went back to stealership since service light was on for 10K miles. He said I was a little low on the oil. So he added about half a quart. I then went to an indie shop and changed the oil to all Lubro-Moly 5-40. So I was low 1/2 a quart from 5K miles of driving. Not bad compared to 1 quart low after 1100 miles of driving with factory oil.

Lubro-Moly is pure synthetic from Germany. Has VW 502.00 and 505.00. I asked Jose, the local guru in Culver City, he said using Lubro-Moly, I wouldn't have to change oil for 7.5K miles. I'm not going to take that chance. I change every 5K miles.

Also, I've heard that keeping the same oil running through the engine will make it last longer. I have no idea what kind of validity that has, but it sounds good I would also recommend doing the oil changes every 5K miles. And when you do, pay with a credit card and keep receipts just in case you have an issue and need to deal with Audi of America.

PM me for link if you are interested in the Lubro-Moly.

I figure, I just dropped 60K on a car, I might as well give it some good food

How about Amsoil???

AMS oil is up there as well...so is ELF. Just make sure which ever one you use has VW 502.00 and VW 505.00 on there, and it's 100% synthetic, not a synthetic and dino blend.

I also think the oil consumption is a situational thing. Some people don't burn any oil. Could be cuz of break-in. Some use Audi's recommended break-in, others use motoman break-in.

[AudiOso]

What brand does Audi use? I have my oil changes done by my dealer.

[RAudi Driver]

The dealer uses Castrol syntec 5/40.

[caitovS4]

FWIW - my car just hit 45k miles and has never needed topping off in between oil changes.

Dealer changes my oil.

[NSYRS4]

Why can't anyone spell ridiculous correctly?

Thank you for being so helpful. Remind me to return the favor some day.

[NSYRS4]

iirc, for the first 5k-7500 miles its typical. (.5qt every 600 miles something to that effect)

thank you

[NSYRS4]

I second that.

I use Mobil1 15-50W with 1/2 quart of Lucas Oil Stabilizer…ask me if I have oil cusumption issue…DO IT….hehehe…. ;)

cant wait for your answer

[RAudi Driver]

I second that.

I use Mobil1 15-50W with 1/2 quart of Lucas Oil Stabilizer…ask me if I have oil cusumption issue…DO IT….hehehe…. ;)

Alright I'll bite. But first, why in the world are you using 15/50?

Here it goes. DO YOU HAVE AN OIL CU SUMPTION PROBLEM?

[MOFSTEEL]

Thank you for being so helpful. Remind me to return the favor some day.

I let the dealership do the regular maintenance on the car since its free.
So they've changed the oil at 5k and 15. I have used Mobil 1 0w40 European formula the two times ive changed it. Which was at 10k and 20k. I regularly check the oil and have not had to add at any time. Odd how some s4/Rs4's seem to consume and others do not.

[91gl]

Totally disagree. Get that castrol out of there and toss in some Motul Excess 5/40. My RS4's oil light came on at 750 miles and I took it to the dealer. The guy brought out a teapot and topped it off to the middle of the dipstick. I took the car back to the house drained out all of the oil and refilled it with some Motul Excess 5/40. The car now has 4k on it and haven't had to add any oil yet. Gonna do another oil change tonight as it's past 3k since the last one.

Channa, I forgot your oil of choice (ooc) . To the OP, Channa's oil is top notch stuff also. Motul is just easy for me to obtain as it's at my buddy's shop.

BTW, Mobil 1 is good, but doesn't even hold a candle to Motul and Channa's ooc.

agreed. ever since i switched to motul, i have not had to top it off once between oil changes

[CHECKERED]

cant wait for your answer

Alright I'll bite. But first, why in the world are you using 15/50?

Here it goes. DO YOU HAVE AN OIL CU SUMPTION PROBLEM?

No oil consumptions issues at all. Car uses maybe half a quart every 5000 miles

And I use 15/50 because here in south Cali it hardly ever drops below 50F but can reach as high as 110 on the freeway in stop and go traffic. So there is no point in using thin oil.

[b spot]

Totally disagree. Get that castrol out of there and toss in some Motul Excess 5/40. My RS4's oil light came on at 750 miles and I took it to the dealer. The guy brought out a teapot and topped it off to the middle of the dipstick. I took the car back to the house drained out all of the oil and refilled it with some Motul Excess 5/40. The car now has 4k on it and haven't had to add any oil yet. Gonna do another oil change tonight as it's past 3k since the last one.

Channa, I forgot your oil of choice (ooc) . To the OP, Channa's oil is top notch stuff also. Motul is just easy for me to obtain as it's at my buddy's shop.

BTW, Mobil 1 is good, but doesn't even hold a candle to Motul and Channa's ooc.

You're crazy to change the oil completely that early (750 miles). Lots of cars come with special break in oil from the factory, as normal synthetic doesn't allow enough friction for proper break in. Unless you confirmed this isn't the case for RS4's, you could have just caused yourself a bunch of problems down the road.

[RAudi Driver]

Whoever owned my car before me must have slaughtered it through the break in period... I have Mobil 1 0-40 in it and I've had to top it off anywhere between 1-2 quarts every 2k miles basically. Maybe I'll switch to Motul or something next time. I've got almost 120k miles on my B6 S4, any opinions on what weight I should use? I'm not too oil savvy. But to answer the ops question, I think that it is generally normal for our cars to burn a good amount of oil. But it sounds like there are good ways to prevent or prolong this as others in the post have stated.

Max, go with the Motul Xcess 5/40. it's $10 bucks per quart.

[PetrolDave]

Odd how some s4/Rs4's seem to consume and others do not.

I've had 2 V8 S4s and currently got a V8 RS4 - they all have the same oil consumption pattern - 2 litres in the first 5000 miles, 1 litre in the next 5000 miles and then nothing other than service changes.

I always follow the same running-in method (part throttle and no more than half max revs for the first 500 miles, part throttle and occasional moments getting closer to max revs for the next 500 miles, after 1000 miles no limits - so long as the engine is fully warm).

Works for me...

[RAudi Driver]

Your crazy to change the oil completely that early (750 miles). Lots of cars come with special break in oil from the factory, as normal synthetic doesn't allow enough friction for proper break in. Unless you confirmed this isn't the case for RS4's, you could have just caused yourself a bunch of problems down the road.

My thought is that oil's flashpoint gets lower every mile that one drives, due to fuel getting into the oil. When your oil starts to burn it leaves deposits on the rings and pistons. Deposits on rings and pistons cause more fuel to enter the oil, causing the oil to burn easier and it becomes a vicious cycle. Every 3000k is recommended for the RS4 engine.

IMO, the early miles of an motor is when the most dilution can occur since the rings haven't fully seated allowing blowby.* That's why i like to keep the oil fresh and fuel free.

It from my understanding that AOA puts syntec 5/40 in their new engines. I haven't heard of them adding any additives to help with break-in and therefore feel safe that dumping the new oil is not a detriment to the engines life. Synthethic oils are never recommended for break-in but most cars nowdays have microfinished parts and the rings are pretty much seated before the cars even reach the delerships.*

Last but not least, i am doing an oil change today. I will take a samle from my last oil change and from the one that I will be doing today and get them analyzed.

Hope this helps.

* "Not fully seated" and "Pretty much seated" = partially seated.

[charliemike]

Why can't anyone spell correctly?

FYP :)

People either don't try, don't care, or don't know. All I know is I see it so much I'm starting to swap there/their/they're and dumb shit like breaks instead of brakes. Drives me insane.

I've started reading books all the time again just to see proper grammar and spelling on a more consistent basis.

[iconoclast]

Drives me insane...

what annoys me is all the slang words for items... otty, noggy, immo, etc. its ridiculous... but thats neither here nor there, this thread is getting derailed...

[gaogi]

Max, go with the Motul Xcess 5/40. it's $10 bucks per quart.

Or buy them in 5 quart jugs and save 30%.

Link

[RAudi Driver]

FYP :)

People either don't try, don't care, or don't know. All I know is I see it so much I'm starting to swap there/their/they're and dumb shit like breaks instead of brakes. Drives me insane.

I've started reading books all the time again just to see proper grammar and spelling on a more consistent basis.

You too Mofsteel.

ESL members excluded, but it really irkes me to see illiterate people who put all this money into their car and don't buy a damn book or take the time to learn how to read and write. We are becoming a nation too concerned with the bling factor.

Or buy them in 5 quart jugs and save 30%.

Link

It's only a $17 savings with shipping added. Still a good deal. i'll do it next time. Thanks for the link.

[Jdubya]

I use Royal Purple. So far 6k miles on this oil change and the dipstick still reads full.

[gaogi]

It's only a $17 savings with shipping added. Still a good deal. i'll do it next time. Thanks for the link.

I ordered two cases (8 jugs) and shipping was about $25.00. I figure this will last me pretty much through my entire lease of the car.

[NSYRS4]

You too Mofsteel.

ESL members excluded, but it really irkes me to see illiterate people who put all this money into their car and don't buy a damn book or take the time to learn how to read and write. We are becoming a nation too concerned with the bling factor.




It's only a $17 savings with shipping added. Still a good deal. i'll do it next time. Thanks for the link.

For all of you spelling and grammar experts, I was hoping that this was a sophisticated site for Audi enthusiasts, not a site for individuals that have nothing better to do than make onageristic comments.

[caitovS4]

ESL members excluded, but it really irkes me to see illiterate people who put all this money into their car and don't buy a damn book or take the time to learn how to read and write. We are becoming a nation too concerned with the bling factor.

Do you realize you spelled irks wrong?

[b spot]

My thought is that oil's flashpoint gets lower every mile that one drives, due to fuel getting into the oil. When your oil starts to burn it leaves deposits on the rings and pistons. Deposits on rings and pistons cause more fuel to enter the oil, causing the oil to burn easier and it becomes a vicious cycle. Every 3000k is recommended for the RS4 engine.

IMO, the early miles of an motor is when the most dilution can occur since the rings haven't fully seated allowing blowby.* That's why i like to keep the oil fresh and fuel free.

It from my understanding that AOA puts syntec 5/40 in their new engines. I haven't heard of them adding any additives to help with break-in and therefore feel safe that dumping the new oil is not a detriment to the engines life. Synthethic oils are never recommended for break-in but most cars nowdays have microfinished parts and the rings are pretty much seated before the cars even reach the delerships.*

Last but not least, i am doing an oil change today. I will take a samle from my last oil change and from the one that I will be doing today and get them analyzed.

Hope this helps.

* "Not fully seated" and "Pretty much seated" = partially seated.

If they come with normal synthetic when new (I have no clue, bought used) then you are good to go. My last new car was supercharged and they warned me not to change the oil for the first so many Kms as it was break in oil.

[NSYRS4]

Do you realize you spelled irks wrong?

Don't you love when the "eat crow".

[MOFSTEEL]

Don't you love when the "eat crow".

... and I repeat.

[charliemike]

... and I repeat.

Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who ... :)

[RAudi Driver]

onageristic

Interesting! Can you define this word for me. I have never heard it before.

[RAudi Driver]

Do you realize you spelled irks wrong?

I do now.

BTW, this isn't about me.

Don't you love when the "eat crow".

FYI, it tastes like chicken.