Palin: Daughter really is her granddaughter?

[ieatfishburitos]

All I can say is wow... Her 4 month old baby is perceived to be her 17 year olds daughter! Amazingly, her daughter was removed from public schools for 8 months and Palin never showed or looked pregnant the entire time...

Interesting read. I have to say the public photos sure show some bulge on her daughters stomach and nothing on her.. Wonder if it's all true? PS: She is now pregnant (again)...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

[MYDWAGON]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080901/...itics_palin_dc

[Ptwiggens]

All I can say is wow... Her 4 month old baby is perceived to be her 17 year olds daughter! Amazingly, her daughter was removed from public schools for 8 months and Palin never showed or looked pregnant the entire time...

Interesting read. I have to say the public photos sure show some bulge on her daughters stomach and nothing on her.. Wonder if it's all true? PS: She is now pregnant (again)...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

Why am I not surprised at all to see this post out of you?

[Sammy7]

The picture that's the source of the rumors was taken in 2006, Trig was born this year.

[fatty1.8t]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090100960.html

her 17 year old daughter really is preggers right now though

[chucka4]

This is kind of sad, it just shows what people really care about and the crap they would rather discuss. we act like there has never been a president or even a congress man without some thing they wished to keep private whether its some thing of a scandal or just down right private. Thomas Jefferson had a child with a slave so rumors say. it happens, who cares. this isn't even close to being a big deal. and its not like McCain didn't know about it. so he says at least. it just boils down to unimportant info that will make people misjudge these people even more. and im not saying i have never thought differently about someone because of a piece of info i didn't like, but in the grand picture, it wouldn't make me change my mind like they intend this info to for voters. and for the record, i don't plan of voting for McCain, but at the same time, i do not care for Obama that much. they both have there ups and downs. I like the fact that Mccain picked Palin, and i like that Obama picked Biden. unless one of them actually did something very illegal, info like this shouldn't matter. and in a logical world, it wouldn't.

[almaster666]

Just like it shouldn't matter that Edwards had an affair. But the politicians are too eager to turn us away from the real issues that they do not know how to resolve.

[Ptwiggens]

Just like it shouldn't matter that Edwards had an affair. But the politicians are too eager to turn us away from the real issues that they do not know how to resolve.

It's not that he had an affair but that he lied about it.

The American public don't want liars in office.

[le91688]

An affair =/= a pregnant teenage daughter.

wtf are you thinking?

[Anthony]

Just like it shouldn't matter that Edwards had an affair. But the politicians are too eager to turn us away from the real issues that they do not know how to resolve.

Agreed. Unfortunately though, that's the state of politics and the media these days. Also, everyone cheats and everyone lies. From Clinton, to Bush, to McCain. Guess it just depends how and what the public chooses to care about.

All this pregnancy crap is a bit rediculous though. The media shouldn't be bringing the families and their personal matters into the mix.

[CARTEL]

Not a big deal? This is a huge deal if its true! Already lying to the American public? Even if the child is hers and the timeline for birth is true, she certainly isn't a good leading example for mothers in this country.

All the Republicans tried to play up the Edwards affair, and Democrats will play this up, more so now since she is the appointed VP for McCain. It's politics in America, what did you expect?

[chucka4]

i know what you mean, this is American politics, and its sad. and no i still don't think its a big deal. its her family, its her daughter. she didn't have an affair while in office, and these are not illegitimate children (not that it would matter to me that much if she did), and either way her daughter and or granddaughter are not the ones going into office. if a teenager has a child, its not the parents fault. they cant put GPS and a chastity belt on them. they make there own bad decisions. i think Palin is doing the right thing, she is obviously being supportive and understanding. its not like she terminated and tried to hide that. idk, either way its something that shouldn't matter.

[Ptwiggens]

Wait wait...

Guys, this isn't up for debate.

It is not possible for it to be her granddaughter.

Her daughter is 5 months pregnant. Palin gave birth in April.

That means that to be even close to where she is, she would have had to turn around and get pregnant again immediately after giving birth to the first child.

Again, the morons on this board show their faces.

[le91688]

Dude, we know. It was just the democrats making up complete lies again on the internet. Happens every day.

[CARTEL]

OMG, you guys are just so above it all. Dorks.

[CARTEL]

Haha, but you know what, this is almost as good. You know, premarital sex amongst under age kids is just pure "family values".

Moronic, hypocritical republicans.

ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old unmarried daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us," the Palins' statement said.

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support," the Palins said.

The Palins asked the news media to respect the young couple's privacy.

"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates," the statement concluded.

Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter's pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way.

McCain officials said the news of the daughter's pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called "mud-slinging and lies" that have circulated on liberal blog sites.

According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in April to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin's child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.

A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around the blogs, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.

"The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama's name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their 'campaign of change,'" a senior aide said.

Speaking to reporters in Monroe, Michigan, Obama reacted strongly, saying he was offended by the McCain's aide's statement and that he considered people's families off-limits.

"We don't go after people's families. We don't get them involved in the politics. It's not appropriate and it's not relevant. Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought there was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired," Obama said.

Obama also said: "This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories."

"You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And how families deal with issues and teenage children -- that shouldn't be the topic of our politics," Obama saidThe news broke as Republicans were gathered in St. Paul for their convention to formally nominate McCain and Palin as the party's candidates. Palin is only the second woman picked as a U.S. vice presidential nominee.

In the short period since she was announced last Friday, Palin has helped to energize the Republican Party's conservative base, giving McCain fresh energy going into the campaign for the November 4 election against Democrat Barack Obama and his No. 2 Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware.

Palin is known for strong anti-abortion views and is pro-gun rights.

James Dobson, an influential Christian evangelical conservative, said his Focus on the Family group has always counseled young mothers to see their pregnancies through, "even though there will be of course challenges along the way."

"That is what the Palins are doing, and they should be commended once again for not just talking about their pro-life and pro-family values, but living them out even in the midst of trying circumstances," he said in a statement.

Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a conservative advocacy group with strong evangelical ties, said: "Unfortunately, teenage pregnancy has become all too common in today's society regardless of a family's economic or social status. It is a problem that we remain committed to reducing through encouraging young people to practice abstinence."

(Additional reporting by Caren Bohan and Ed Stoddard)

(Editing by Howard Goller and Jackie Frank)

[Anthony]

Dude, we know. It was just the democrats making up complete lies again on the internet. Happens every day.

Please don't lump all Democrats into the gossip mill. Just as with a lot of the crap that comes out of the other side, it's usually the extremists that dig up dirt and start such rumors. The Democrat vs Republican, Liberal vs Conservative, Blue vs Red crap is so passé. Both sides are guilty of the bullshit, so put away that horse it's far too high for you.

[CARTEL]

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Again, the morons on this board show their faces.

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[ieatfishburitos]

Wait wait...

Guys, this isn't up for debate.

It is not possible for it to be her granddaughter.

Her daughter is 5 months pregnant. Palin gave birth in April.

That means that to be even close to where she is, she would have had to turn around and get pregnant again immediately after giving birth to the first child.

Again, the morons on this board show their faces.

Not true... The only thing stated about her daughter is that she is "about" 5 months pregnant. Why not give the exact pregnancy term in weeks, instead of being vague?

[kbiz]

Just like it shouldn't matter that Edwards had an affair. But the politicians are too eager to turn us away from the real issues that they do not know how to resolve.

You can't equate the two. They are not remotely similar.

Edwards cheated on his wife and then lied about it to the public. Palin's daughter is pregnant and she told the public about it. In fact, it wasn't even a secret in the town where her family lived.

[kbiz]

Moronic, hypocritical republicans.

You're a registered Republican. You probably weren't talking about yourself though.

Regarding the article, I'm glad Obama took the high road. After all, Obama was born when his mother was 18. His father had at least 4 children from 4 different women. We should leave family members out of the spotlight. Let's focus the candidate's policies instead.

[Ptwiggens]

Not true... The only thing stated about her daughter is that she is "about" 5 months pregnant. Why not give the exact pregnancy term in weeks, instead of being vague?

You have just won the Moron Of The Day Award for the 2nd time.

Again, congratulations Jackass.

You must not be good with women, or understand them at all... otherwise you would realize the difficulties in having sex after giving birth.

The doctor would have told her not to have sex for at least 6 weeks, which no normal guy would want to anyways because a post birth vagina is DISGUSTING.

Also, women don't ovulate after birth for at least a month.

And not only that, but I HIGHLY doubt that she was back fucking this guy again as soon as those 6 weeks were up.

Lets say she got pregnant a month later, which is the minimum amount of time to start ovulating again.

That means conception in late May... what is 4 months (We'll assume she's closer to 4) after that?

Late September.

Idiot.

[kbiz]

Please don't lump all Democrats into the gossip mill. Just as with a lot of the crap that comes out of the other side, it's usually the extremists that dig up dirt and start such rumors. The Democrat vs Republican, Liberal vs Conservative, Blue vs Red crap is so passé. Both sides are guilty of the bullshit, so put away that horse it's far too high for you.

The OP's article is straight from the leftist blogs. There have been some silly accusations about Palin here and in the 'McCain Picks Palin!' thread over the weekend. I guess they'll never stop trying to dig up dirt. However, at least wait until it's true. I think the Dems are desperately trying to define this unknown candidate right now.

Keep in mind, Palin has more executive experience than Obama. She has a 80% approval rating as Governor of Alaska. She is well spoken. She has energized the Republican base. I think she's good fit for the Republican ticket.

[Anthony]

The OP's article is straight from the leftist blogs. There have been some silly accusations about Palin here and in the 'McCain Picks Palin!' thread over the weekend. I guess they'll never stop trying to dig up dirt. However, at least wait until it's true. I think the Dems are desperately trying to define this unknown candidate right now.

Why are you quoting and talking to me about this? I didn't deny or dispute any of that. Simply saying that it's not "the Dems", just like when all the shit was coming down about Obama at first, it wasn't simply "The Repubs".

[le91688]

The thing is anthony, stupid shit like this gets posted every day by "dems"

I havent seen "repubs" post
"NEW! OBAMA LINKED TO TERRORISM, HILLARY IS REALLY A MAN, etc"

Im honestly dont even define myself as a republican or democrat, but I can see things for what they are and there are unfortunately alot of uninformed, insanely liberal people on this forum who believe anything they read on the interweb.

(you dont seem to be one of them :P but theyre here. Look above!)

[CARTEL]

You're a registered Republican. You probably weren't talking about yourself though.

No, just a sixth grade response to a fifth grade insult.

[Das General]

Premarital sex....tisk tisk.

[Anthony]

The thing is anthony, stupid shit like this gets posted every day by "dems"

I havent seen "repubs" post
"NEW! OBAMA LINKED TO TERRORISM, HILLARY IS REALLY A MAN, etc"

Im honestly dont even define myself as a republican or democrat, but I can see things for what they are and there are unfortunately alot of uninformed, insanely liberal people on this forum who believe anything they read on the interweb.

(you dont seem to be one of them :P but theyre here. Look above!)

Then I guess you weren't in GCC much earlier this year, because there were plenty of lame threads about Obama and Hillary up in here.

[le91688]

Nah I only recently ventured down to GCC. I try to stick to the b5 forums ya dig

[ieatfishburitos]

You have just won the Moron Of The Day Award for the 2nd time.

Again, congratulations Jackass.

You must not be good with women, or understand them at all... otherwise you would realize the difficulties in having sex after giving birth.

The doctor would have told her not to have sex for at least 6 weeks, which no normal guy would want to anyways because a post birth vagina is DISGUSTING.

Also, women don't ovulate after birth for at least a month.

And not only that, but I HIGHLY doubt that she was back fucking this guy again as soon as those 6 weeks were up.

Lets say she got pregnant a month later, which is the minimum amount of time to start ovulating again.

That means conception in late May... what is 4 months (We'll assume she's closer to 4) after that?

Late September.

Idiot.

I fail to understand the personal attacks? I don't have any difficulties with women like any of the other suggestions you make. I do in fact have difficulties in your arguments in which you take vague timelines and generalize doctors arguments as science in this discussion.

At what exact point would this girl have acknowledged her Dr's advice to not have sex over her mother's political career and family's beliefs is laughable. Surely anyone raised in such a conservative family would understand their family morals and position on this stance by the age of 17.

Let's think for a second, would it not be possible that the daughter be impregnated a few weeks after April 18th? Technically women can ovulate within 2 weeks of giving birth and women have been pregnant again that fast. I mean we aren't talking about a nun here. It's surely technically possible that she was impregnated 2-3 weeks after that date which would easily slide her into the position to deliver a baby via c-section in late December, or nearly 8 months later.

It's not a pretty scenario, but it's not scientifically impossible as you suggest.

[kbiz]

The thing is anthony, stupid shit like this gets posted every day by "dems"

That's a legitimate observation. Maybe in the past it was otherwise.

I think Daily Kos is gonna receive some heat for this. It's not journalism by any stretch of the imagination.

[almaster666]

You can't equate the two. They are not remotely similar.

Edwards cheated on his wife and then lied about it to the public. Palin's daughter is pregnant and she told the public about it. In fact, it wasn't even a secret in the town where her family lived.

I can equate the two in the sense that they are both personal issues that have no business being in the public's eye in the first place.
Politicians' personal lives should not be sprawled out for all to see unless it involves something illegal.

[le91688]

Cheating on your wife is pretty messed up.

[Ptwiggens]

I can equate the two in the sense that they are both personal issues that have no business being in the public's eye in the first place.

Actually, I would prefer not to have people of poor moral character in a position of power. I think the vast majority of people agree with me.

You are lucky the Moron Of The Day Award has already been given, because what you've just said is pretty moronic.

[almaster666]

Cheating on your wife is pretty messed up.

LoL, you are so full of shit! If a republican cheated on his wife, you'd be fighting tooth and nail, telling everyone that it doesn't matter.
John F. Kennedy had extra-marital affairs, did that make him a bad man?
Personal lives and public lives should not matter... It is truly sad that people make them matter.

[almaster666]

Actually, I would prefer not to have people of poor moral character in a position of power. I think the vast majority of people agree with me.

You are lucky the Moron Of The Day Award has already been given, because what you've just said is pretty moronic.

Anyone who thinks that cheating on one's wife makes a person inadequate to run a country deserves the title of moron
That been said, I think hypocrisy is a far worse moral flaw: telling others that teaching abstinence works and that sex-ed does not, then showing up with a pregnant daughter is pretty hypocritical.
I don't believe that her teenager getting knocked-up matters though. What matters is her and McCain's political program and what their opinions are on REAL issues like foreign policy, the economy and health care. Not agreeing with that would be pretty moronic

[le91688]

Anyone who thinks that cheating on one's wife makes a person inadequate to run a country deserves the title of moron
That been said, I think hypocrisy is a far worse moral flaw: telling others that teaching abstinence works and that sex-ed does not, then showing up with a pregnant daughter is pretty hypocritical.
I don't believe that her teenager getting knocked-up matters though. What matters is her and McCain's political program and what their opinions are on REAL issues like foreign policy, the economy and health care. Not agreeing with that would be pretty moronic

You're blind allegiance to your political party is apparent.

And if you knew anything about me, you'd know I'm not even a Republican.

[almaster666]

You're blind allegiance to your political party is apparent.

And if you knew anything about me, you'd know I'm not even a Republican.

I have no political party. I'm just neo-con.
And I'm pretty sure you're one of those wannabe libertarians but you're still gonna vote for the guy who wants to spy on you and continue to take away your civil liberties. Oh, but right, he promised a tax-cut! which you won't even get because it'll only apply to those who make over 300 or 400k a year.

[Ptwiggens]

Anyone who thinks that cheating on one's wife makes a person inadequate to run a country deserves the title of moron
That been said, I think hypocrisy is a far worse moral flaw: telling others that teaching abstinence works and that sex-ed does not, then showing up with a pregnant daughter is pretty hypocritical.
I don't believe that her teenager getting knocked-up matters though. What matters is her and McCain's political program and what their opinions are on REAL issues like foreign policy, the economy and health care. Not agreeing with that would be pretty moronic

You just made history. Looks like I'll be giving out two today.

You've just been given the Moron Of The Day Award.

Congratulations, Jackass!

[almaster666]

You just made history. Looks like I'll be giving out two today.

You've just been given the Moron Of The Day Award.

Congratulations, Jackass!

Wow, I am truly crushed!
My whole life has flashed before my eyes. I think you've finally convinced me to become... a conservative! I finally see the light!
Anything to protect me from being crowed moron of the day!
Please, don't do it!
I take it back all back:
Global warming is a myth!
The Bible is more true than science!
All arabs are terrorists!
Tax-cuts will fix everything!