K24's...?

[BITRBO]

I tried looking this up, but couldn't get much info to my satisfaction... From my understanding you can't just throw these turbos in cause they won't bolt-up to the stock manifolds, so you have to join them with a ko4 hot side... I guess this is a "hybrid", but I always thought of ko4 "hybrids" as ko4/rs6's (or k03/k04, which is a little pointless IMO)? I'm sure there are several different "hybrids", but it just seems as if this isn't a popular one for some reason. I remember seeing a thread once where someone listed all the different turbos and various combinations for our cars, but I can't find it now

So which one is better, or neither (just different)? And which one would be cheaper to create/install? Would it be worth building some custom headers/manifolds so that one could use straight K24's, or would it just be cheaper/easier to go GT's at that point?

Thanks!

[JMTx86]

Get a gen gt kit

[BITRBO]

Short, but sweet I guess. Thanks.

btw, team_soy has got an APB out on you...

[Knight_Rider]

iv already looked into every possible turbo setup... what it will take to make it work, wont justify the $$$ and time into it. and time is $, so you lose on both fronts.

if you want something faster than STAGE 3... you know what you have to do. TIME to step to the GENJDM GEN X STAGE 10 GT KIT. for the $$$, it cant be touched.

GL!

[BITRBO]

so I take it custom manifolds are needed, so unless you get a pair of k24's for free, you might as well go GT's? I just thought that since this is killer upgrade for some of the Porsce guys (996tt?), that it might would certainly suffice for us power-wise...

How do full RS6's compare to K24's, does anybody know?

[lud]

Hey rouglhy its around the same price as a GT kit, but it really depends wich turbos you prefer. People make GT kits because the turbo s are cheap. On the other hand a set of k16/k24 go for 4000$ brand new, but since they have been installed on several porsches you have proof that they can be reliable turbo s daily driven. P.S i got brand new k16/k24 for sale .

[BITRBO]

so roughly the same price, but what kind of GT's are we talking about here?? GT25R's, 28's, or 30's? I mean, if a pair of k24's out perform a set of GT28R's I guess it comes down to realiability... And I'm sure a water-cooled, ball-bearing GT turbo would be a bit more reliable, although it does appear that the Porsche guys are doing just fine with their k24/16/18 conversions...

I'm just trying to understand what GT turbo would compare to a k24 in performance, should someone be able to get a pair for an extremely reasonable price...

[generationjdm]

First off your cars not a Porsche remember you do have a smaller motor. Theres turbos ranging from 500hp to 1000+ with the gt series so yes theres something real easily. What you should ask yourself is whats the true goal for the car, once thats established this thread would go a lot smoother in trying to help you...

K24s are close to the gt2860ss, but the k24ss have a much larger turbine wheel 59mm i believe and a standard none ball bearing center section, my guess is this would be very lazy/laggy setup as a gt3071 has a 60mm turbine wheel to give you an idea..

I can tell you theres no short cut or cheap way when doing something like what your talking about doing and the lag with those turbos will be much worse then you think...

[BITRBO]

I was waiting for you to chime in ...

yes, I realize that I do not have a Porsche (although sometimes I like to pretend), and that our engines probably can't flow enough air to substantiate straight k24's without some major tweakage (I had already read that they might be very laggy on our cars). My goals for the car is nothing really in particular, although RS6's have peaked my interests lately. I just have a local contact that has offered me a pair of k24's (barely used) for what I would consider an extremely reasonable amount. They might've "fallen off the truck" for all I know . Suffice to say that my estimates make them much cheaper than a pair of entry or mid level GT's (just the turbos), so I am trying to determine if they would be worth the hassel to "tweak"/modify them...

I'm really not try to start a war here, just gathering the facts. Thanks genjdm!

[generationjdm]

By the time you had the manis/everything made you would be no where ahead and have very very laggy turbos that you probably will hate... Take the turbos and put them on ebay and now you have more money for other turbos

[lud]

First off your cars not a Porsche remember you do have a smaller motor. Theres turbos ranging from 500hp to 1000+ with the gt series so yes theres something real easily. What you should ask yourself is whats the true goal for the car, once thats established this thread would go a lot smoother in trying to help you...

K24s are close to the gt2860ss, but the k24ss have a much larger turbine wheel 59mm i believe and a standard none ball bearing center section, my guess is this would be very lazy/laggy setup as a gt3071 has a 60mm turbine wheel to give you an idea..

I can tell you theres no short cut or cheap way when doing something like what your talking about doing and the lag with those turbos will be much worse then you think...

Thats why you need to put the k16/k24 turbo. Hot side is k24 and cold side is k16 so it spools up much quicker and you still get the power

[generationjdm]

its still not what you think, but go do it and lets us no how cheap and wonderful it was

[lud]

its still not what you think, but go do it and lets us no how cheap and wonderful it was

Hey i never said it was cheaper, i said it depends wich brand you prefer and theyre probably is a reason why they are more expensive than GT turbos.

[generationjdm]

I understand, but theres really nothing like a garrett

[Luca12]

i agree with lud

[generationjdm]

Hey i never said it was cheaper, i said it depends wich brand you prefer and theyre probably is a reason why they are more expensive than GT turbos.

thats funny, so you think because there more there better? How about garret sells way more turbos then bg, if it didn't go on the porsche that ancient dinosaur design would be 300.00 like the rest of them...

[BITRBO]

By the time you had the manis/everything made you would be no where ahead and have very very laggy turbos that you probably will hate... Take the turbos and put them on ebay and now you have more money for other turbos

got it... that's again for the insight genjdm and lud. I def. like the fact that Garret snails are water cooled & ball-bearing'd, which makes them a much cooler, more reliable turbo. I'm not interested in saving a ton of money on these puppies, to then just turn around an have to make them hybrids. That eBay idea isn't half bad though

[lud]

The main reason why people to GT kits its because its cheaper than k24s. I did hear about ball bearings getting seized too. These turbos come in gt2 s , so i would not consider them less reliable.

[generationjdm]

ya bearings get seized because you have kids running them improper and not installing them correctly.... I also hear every day of kkk turbos blowing constantly

[generationjdm]

The main reason why people to GT kits its because its cheaper than k24s. I did hear about ball bearings getting seized too. These turbos come in gt2 s , so i would not consider them less reliable.

they come in the gt2 cars and they run like 12-14 lbs also, come on your not really saying because something cost more or that its on a very expensive car it has to be better or top notch?