Avant 1.8T or 2.7T ??

[snakehead]

I have owned a 99 A4 Quattro 1.8T ko4 5spd , Due to a changing world i had to sell, I am back to wanting another Audi, a wagon this time. ,
I can not make up my mind between a 2.7 T or a 1.8 T , I have never had a chance to drive a 2.7 T is it worth it ? Or am i looking in to trouble with a high mileage 2.7 T ? Auto/Manual ? or should i stick with good gas mileage and a 1.8 T Quattro ??

[ewuzh]

I have owned a 99 A4 Quattro 1.8T ko4 5spd , Due to a changing world i had to sell, I am back to wanting another Audi, a wagon this time. Looking at a 2003 Avant ,
I can not make up my mind between a 2.7 T or a 1.8 T , I have never had a chance to drive a 2.7 T is it worth it ? Or am i looking in to trouble with a high mileage 2.7 T ? Auto/Manual ? or should i stick with good gas mileage and a 1.8 T Quattro ??

I have driven both (both stock and chipped) for extended periods, and the difference is pretty huge. The 2.7 sounds like a beefy v6, plenty of torque all around, pulls 5 people uphill in 6th gear, much more fun to drive overall IMO. Although a chipped 1.8T has some pep to it, it's nothing like the 2.7. The biggest thing I noticed is that the 1.8 is pretty weak below 2500 rpm (almost have to dump the clutch at 2000 just to get moving), whereas the S4 has no problem getting started below 2500rpm.

Big con for the 2.7 is that everything basically costs double what it does on the 1.8T. Two turbos. Two pair of turbo inlets. Two exhaust pipes (dual). Two DV's. Maintenance/Upgrades can be killer.

I saw around 23~28mpg (city/highway) with the 1.8T. In my S4, I average about 21mpg (mostly city), with the best being 32mpg on the highway (coming back from Oregon). If I really romp on it in the city, I'll see maybe 17 or 18mpg.

2.7T avants might be hard to come by, but you should still try one out even if its the sedan version. But hey, in the end, it's still an Avant so it's all good.

[lookaught]

Yeah they are TOTALLY different cars. The 2.7t with just a chip is a genuinely fast car, the 1.8t is not. 6th gear in a 2.7t will pull hard, my 1.8t is completely lethargic in 5th.

It's definitely much more expensive to maintain the S4. Its also a lot harder to do the work b/c there is no freaking space to get your hands anywhere, whereas with the 1.8t there's plenty of room.

I hope to buy an S4 avant someday. I sold my B5 S4 sedan for my B6 avant, and the new car does what I need it to do... get me from point A to B without breaking down. Its so much less fun to drive though...

[GFRRS3]

The 1.8T is pretty gutless, but one of the more reliable Audi motors, just make sure you change your belts and oil. The 2.7T is much more fun, as far as performance is concerned but you have to be willing to shell out a few more bucks to purchase and maintain.

[JMVant]

I have owned a 99 A4 Quattro 1.8T ko4 5spd , Due to a changing world i had to sell, I am back to wanting another Audi, a wagon this time. ,
I can not make up my mind between a 2.7 T or a 1.8 T , I have never had a chance to drive a 2.7 T is it worth it ? Or am i looking in to trouble with a high mileage 2.7 T ? Auto/Manual ? or should i stick with good gas mileage and a 1.8 T Quattro ??

I agree with everyone above but if you are in the market for an avant s4 good luck. It took me 6 + months to even find a manual b6 that was clean. Just about every b6 s4 I found had some type of mark on the title and it seemed like most were because they were stolen recovery. We are on diff sides of the US but just my two cents...

[snakehead]

Thanks for the info, just wanted to here a few opinions , thanks

[Mcstiff]

On the other hand you do not have to look over your shoulder in fear of the turbo lady with a 1.8T.

[JumboBlack1.8]

I'd say go with a 1.8T for reliability....and u can spend a LOT less money to make it really fast, compared to the cost of going stage 3 on an S4. By going with a big turbo, u can get better gas mileage (if you stay out of boost while cruising around), while also making great power.

I've owned 2 1.8Ts. Automatic and now a manual. When I was in the market 2 years ago for my newer B5, i REALLY wanted an S4, but I couldn't find one with low enough mileage locally. So I went with a pretty low mileage A4 1.8T avant. After modding it a fair amount and going BT, i'm very pleased with my decision. The car is much easier to work on, and I make very good power, and I get GREAT gas mileage. I couldn't be happier. In fact (call me crazy), but I think i'd rather have a 2.0 Gt35 A4 than a stage 3 S4......the A4 is a more practical car for my driving needs