B7 2.0T to B6 platform swap?

[bigbro]

2.0t to the b6. Can it work or waste of time? I realize it wouldn't be econmical but would they be a close swap, just wondering.

[S1LVERBULLET119]

you want to put a b7 2.0t in a b6 or put a b6 motor in a B7?

[bigbro]

B7 2.0t to b6 platform. I don't want to do it (atleast not yet maybe one day) but i'm curious if it can be done, like a direct swap or minor mods to make it happen.

[absolutegtr]

Well the B7 might use a different fuel system, because it has direct fuel injectors....but I could be wrong

It might be practical...unless you have a B7 donor car, to just bore and stroke the 1.8 to 2.0

[AudiA4Turbo22]

the fuel pump and everything has to be changed, but i don't know about the motor lining up.

[Turn10]

Dude much less painful to just by new exhaust, new air filter, and a new chip and you'll probably be at the power of a 2.0 b7. Just a suggestion. Less of a headache and will definetly take less time.

[F16HTON]

2.0T FSI is not the greatest motor, the new 2.0TFSI is phenomonial though.

[bigbro]

I wouldn't swap to just have a 2.0t. I'm saying I (if it happened) would swap then go bat ect. But just curious if it would work I'm not worried about it being economical or doing something to get like 30chp thats without swapping. I mean what all would be needed for a 2.0T FSI or 2.0TFSI to b6 theoretical swap.

There are already b6's with a 2.0, and b7's with a 1.8 I have noticed in other countries. Would those engines work?

[S1LVERBULLET119]

what constitutes the "new" 2.0t fsi

[Redgoat]

The new B8

[AudiA4_20T]

hey man, what do you like about that motor? That its a 2.0? you can get a 2.0 done on your car for $3k and it would be stronger than the FSI motor,

[bigbro]

I know I can get mine stroked. but im just curious about a 2.0t from a b7 swpped to the b6.

quick questions:

*can the 2.0t be swapped?

*can the 2.0t be stroked?

*can the 2.0t possibly make more power than the 1.8t if it was stoked and a bat slapped on it?

*has anyone attempted it yet?

*Is anyone in the process of doing it?

* what if anything needs to be obtained to swap besides the fuel system?

I know it is pointless at this time because there are other ways to get power out of the 1.8t, but I don't want to go the route as everyone else that takes the fun out of experimenting for me. Also I can get my hands on a b7 donor for cheap because my friend has a totaled one sitting in his yard with a perfect engine. Right now this is just a theoretical question. Also so far noone answered with a good reason why it wouldn't work.

I searched to see if anyone asked before and every question ends the same, someone asks then they get pounded with "it's easier to..." Iknow all the mods I can do to the 1.8t and realize whats easier but to me that takes the fun out of modding. I want to possibly do what hasen't been done before.

[bigbro]

hey man, what do you like about that motor? That its a 2.0? you can get a 2.0 done on your car for $3k and it would be stronger than the FSI motor,

yeah i know my 1.8t options, but what if I stroked the 2.0t to 2.1 or 2.2 wouldn't that make more power then the 1.8t stroked to 2.0? Is there even enough meat on the b7 block to stroke to 2.1 or 2.2?

[rabidsquirrel]

I could care less about the 2.0T, but what I'd sacrifice an appendage for is having the DSG tranny in my B6! That would be friggen sweet!

[F16HTON]

All of you answers in a nutshell

*can the 2.0t be swapped? Yes, anything is possible, given time/money

*can the 2.0t be stroked? Yes, but not enough to make a difference, it would be costly as well, stroking a motor requires a different crankshaft, you would have to do a custom grind

*can the 2.0t possibly make more power than the 1.8t if it was stoked and a bat slapped on it? The programming and fueling in stock form are far better than the 20VT, however the fuel pump and how it operates off of the camshaft is the weak link, there are several other weaknesses that are exploited when you increase the power

*has anyone attempted it yet? Audi does...basically the B7 still sits on the 8E chassis, so every motor that is put in a B7 qualifies

*Is anyone in the process of doing it? I do not know of anyone who has, not worth it in my opinion, just not anough gains to justify doing it

* what if anything needs to be obtained to swap besides the fuel system? You would need to swap the electrical harness, motor and fueling, if you had a donor car, then maybe it would be a fun thing to do, no real benefit will be seen however

Hold out for the B8 2.0TFSI, this motor is what the FSI should have been in the first place...

Benefits of the TFSI are that the motor has a badass Bosch fuel pump, dry sump oiling, advanced electronics with computer controlled vavle timing, improved weight distribution that removes quite a bit of the understeer, improved cockpit with modern styling.

[AvantNoir]

Along the subject matter, what about swapping the 6-speed Tiptronic from the B7 into a B6? I think that the 6-speed transmission is a major improvement over the 5-speed Tiptronic.

[bigbro]

All of you answers in a nutshell

*can the 2.0t be swapped? Yes, anything is possible, given time/money

*can the 2.0t be stroked? Yes, but not enough to make a difference, it would be costly as well, stroking a motor requires a different crankshaft, you would have to do a custom grind

*can the 2.0t possibly make more power than the 1.8t if it was stoked and a bat slapped on it? The programming and fueling in stock form are far better than the 20VT, however the fuel pump and how it operates off of the camshaft is the weak link, there are several other weaknesses that are exploited when you increase the power

*has anyone attempted it yet? Audi does...basically the B7 still sits on the 8E chassis, so every motor that is put in a B7 qualifies

*Is anyone in the process of doing it? I do not know of anyone who has, not worth it in my opinion, just not anough gains to justify doing it

* what if anything needs to be obtained to swap besides the fuel system? You would need to swap the electrical harness, motor and fueling, if you had a donor car, then maybe it would be a fun thing to do, no real benefit will be seen however

Hold out for the B8 2.0TFSI, this motor is what the FSI should have been in the first place...

Benefits of the TFSI are that the motor has a badass Bosch fuel pump, dry sump oiling, advanced electronics with computer controlled vavle timing, improved weight distribution that removes quite a bit of the understeer, improved cockpit with modern styling.

Thank you this is the type of answer I was looking for.

[bigbro]

Is the 2.0tfsi the same motor used in the current s3 sold in mexico?

[bigbro]

ttt

[Splattj]

If the Audi TFSI setup is anything like the setup in the new GTIs, it's way too much hassle. You would need to find a standalone ECU setup that can handle FSI or you'll need so many parts from the donor car it's scary. The 2.0T SFI swap I read about said they had to reuse the door handles from the donor car because the CAN bus uses the chips in them as part of the immobilizer setup!
They ended up wiring them up and leaving them inside the door. (I have heard a immobilizer defeat has been developed but I can't find much info.)

Just stroke a 1.8t to 2.0 and put a big turbo on!

[b6onboost]

sort of. both the B8 A4 and S3 use the newer TFSI design but the S3 is enhanced for more performance and higher output. I beleive its a slightly upgraded turbo, different tuning, better intercooler, ect.

Dunno why you'd wana swap a B7 2.0T into a B6. It'd be cheaper to just buy a B7 if you love that motor so much. Conversely, if you love the B6 it'd be cheaper to take a 1.8T and go 2.0 BAT.

[JBM]

Pssh bitch please. Do a TDI swap.

[B528QM]

Pssh bitch please. Do a TDI swap.

I'd love to do that... I think there is just too much involved though.

[bigbro]

sort of. both the B8 A4 and S3 use the newer TFSI design but the S3 is enhanced for more performance and higher output. I beleive its a slightly upgraded turbo, different tuning, better intercooler, ect.

Dunno why you'd wana swap a B7 2.0T into a B6. It'd be cheaper to just buy a B7 if you love that motor so much. Conversely, if you love the B6 it'd be cheaper to take a 1.8T and go 2.0 BAT.

Friend has a totaled b7 in his yard with a perfectly good engine that he is willing to let me get for cheap if I were to do it.

[Redgoat]

I dont understand what your final goal with your car is.. if your looking to make more power.. or just try something extremely hard and difficult.

[absolutegtr]

I say do it

[diagnosticator]

what constitutes the "new" 2.0t fsi

The Bentley B6 A4 Service Manual ONLINE, ebahn version, has a Self Study Program, complete training manual booklet covering the new "Chain Driven" 2.0L TFSI engine. The SSP describes the design and construction of the engine complete with detailed descriptions of all the engine sub systems and components.

The SSP is incorrectly included in the B6/B7 online ebaun content, as no B6/7 has that engine. It's to be introduced in the B8. It's a totally new design, and is a big improvment over the existing designs. PM me for more info.

[diagnosticator]

Is the 2.0tfsi the same motor used in the current s3 sold in mexico?

No.

[diagnosticator]

I know I can get mine stroked. but im just curious about a 2.0t from a b7 swpped to the b6.

quick questions:

*can the 2.0t be swapped?

*can the 2.0t be stroked?

*can the 2.0t possibly make more power than the 1.8t if it was stoked and a bat slapped on it?

*has anyone attempted it yet?

*Is anyone in the process of doing it?

* what if anything needs to be obtained to swap besides the fuel system?

Quick answers:

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, for sure!

I don't know.

Dunno.

The engine ECU and Immobilizer/Instrument cluster and specific wiring harnesses.

[Smiley]

Dont know if its been covered before, just asking out the blue

can us 1.8t's swap in the 2.7tt?

[dubenvy]

saw one swapped into a mk2 GTi at waterfest. after that, a b6 should be easy.

[F16HTON]

Yes, our existing ECU is not compatible. The best donor is a A6.

[diagnosticator]

Along the subject matter, what about swapping the 6-speed Tiptronic from the B7 into a B6? I think that the 6-speed transmission is a major improvement over the 5-speed Tiptronic.

It's compatable mechanically. The Engine ECU<>Transmission TCU communications and calibration would be a difficult problem to overcome howerver.

[Amze]

I say do it

I'm convinced. And agree.