pictures of spring lowered b7's please?

[jimmya4]

i have a 05.5 quattro and am pretty sure im getting a set of h&r sport springs that lower about 1.7 i think. could anyone post pictures of their b7's with these springs or similiar drops so i and others could get a sense of amount of drops certain springs give?

[AudiWxGuy]

Get shocks too, or you'll be paying for new shocks very soon. And since install is expensive, I would highly suggest not having to pay it twice.

[jimmya4]

im still in high school and i cant afford coil overs. if i went for maybe like a 1.3 drop would it be easier on the shocks? why do they make springs if the shocks are just going to go?

[so.cal.sparky]

search is good





H&R been on them for 40k now

[volcomic]

i have a 05.5 quattro and am pretty sure im getting a set of h&r sport springs that lower about 1.7 i think. could anyone post pictures of their b7's with these springs or similiar drops so i and others could get a sense of amount of drops certain springs give?

[Phrost]

sparky, are you on oem shocks too? Give us the rundown.

Volcomic, we need bigger pictures of your car

[jimmya4]

ya sparky are those simply h&r sport springs? or are they shocks too? or are they different springs. and is that a quattro? thanks for the input

[cucubee5]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219301

[volcomic]

Volcomic, we need bigger pictures of your car

[so.cal.sparky]

oem non sport springs and rs4 swaybar fwd-ftw
tires are 245 45 17

[volcomic]

oem non sport springs and rs4 swaybar fwd-ftw
tires are 245 45 17

You mean "oem non sport shocks and rs4 swaybar fwd-ftw"... with H&R springs right?

[jimmya4]

volcomic let me get this straight. thats a 2.0t wagon with just h&r sport springs for the suspension (besides the sways)

[so.cal.sparky]

You mean "oem non sport shocks and rs4 swaybar fwd-ftw"... with H&R springs right?

i need to stop drinkin

[redlabel81]

Do you have sport or standard shock Jimmy?

[jimmya4]

im not sure. i assume its sport shock. i bought the car used it seems like it has every possible thing besides s line. how can i check for sport shocks or not?

[volcomic]

volcomic let me get this straight. thats a 2.0t wagon with just h&r sport springs for the suspension (besides the sways)

Yep. H&R Springs on OEM sport shocks. It's not the ideal setup, but I didn't have the money to do coil-overs at the time. I got the springs and installation for about $400 after tax, and I'm just gonna put coils on it when the shocks wear out. So far the shocks still feel fine (been nearly a year now). To answer your question from another post, you can tell you have the Sport suspension if your shocks are red...

[Phrost]

Originally I was going to get Eibach springs (that drop just a tad less than H&R) and called a few shops about the Eibach kit that comes with better shocks. Eibach doesn't make this, apparently because our oem shocks (he even thought I didn't have the sport suspension) are beefy enough to handle the small drop.

H&R springs barely drop any lower... maybe about as much as your car would lower if you constantly drove around with 1 or 2 passengers?

Come to think of it, everyone here preaches about shocks blowing out if you just do springs but I don't recall one single B7 person saying, "I bought just springs and my shocks blew/were horrible any time after driving around with this setup. Prove me wrong.

[volcomic]

Originally I was going to get Eibach springs (that drop just a tad less than H&R) and called a few shops about the Eibach kit that comes with better shocks. Eibach doesn't make this, apparently because our oem shocks (he even thought I didn't have the sport suspension) are beefy enough to handle the small drop.

H&R springs barely drop any lower... maybe about as much as your car would lower if you constantly drove around with 1 or 2 passengers?

Come to think of it, everyone here preaches about shocks blowing out if you just do springs but I don't recall one single B7 person saying, "I bought just springs and my shocks blew/were horrible any time after driving around with this setup. Prove me wrong.

EXACTLY! I've heard time and time again that the OEM shocks will wear out "super fast" on lowered springs, and this is just not true. The fact is 1/2" of compression is not going to ruin your shocks. I have had 3 different vehicles now with sport springs and have yet to have any issue with my shocks wearing out prematurely. I will however point out that good sways are a must with softer shocks. The RS4 rear sway has completely neutralized any hint of understeer!

People always argue that for "just a little more money" you can get coil-overs, but that's also not true. There are some amazing deals out there (like the Stasis Streetsports), but they're still $1000-$1100 + install. My H&R springs were like $230 + install! Yes I will have to pay for install again if I ever get coil-overs put on, but + or - $250 for several years of
use is fine with me. I would not however buy a spring/shock combo because those are very close to the cost of coil-overs...

And last but not least people bring up the performance of a spring/shock combo compared to coils. All I have to say is that I have several friends with B7 A4's on coil-overs (all sedans), and my Avant (with the help or RS4 sways) will stay right with them in the twisties. If you're heading to the track on a regular basis then coils are probably the way to go since you can make adjustments. An A4 is not really intended to be a track car in the firstplace so a track day for me would be more about the driving experience, not trying to shave valuable seconds around a track in my 4000 lb wagon

[LimiTed]

H&R's on NON-sport shocks. 35k miles. no issues. waiting for a shock to blow before i switch to coilovers

[volcomic]

H&R's on NON-sport shocks. 35k miles. no issues. waiting for a shock to blow before i switch to coilovers

I love the wheels! You ever think of throwing some spacers on there to get the wheels flush with your fenders?

[Phrost]

I will however point out that good sways are a must with softer shocks. The RS4 rear sway has completely neutralized any hint of understeer!

This is true, I have owned multiple cars with upgraded rear sway bars, but I feel your comment is misleading. One doesn't have to upgrade their rsb if they lower, but it is definitely worth it. Even a thicker rsb with stock suspension is worth it, it makes the car feel completely different and the rear end really stiffens up.

I don't know how I feel about getting a rs4 rsb for my A4... Right now I'm very happy with my handling, it has a tad of understeer to make it very easy but it will still oversteer if I want it to. I feel safer with this, and I rarely push it where my rear tires break traction around a corner... I just don't want it kicking out where I lose control, and I've had that in a previous car

[LimiTed]

I love the wheels! You ever think of throwing some spacers on there to get the wheels flush with your fenders?

thanks. i have some 17.5mm spacers waiting here. i get my car back in a couple weeks and i finally get to throw them on.

[volcomic]

I don't know how I feel about getting a rs4 rsb for my A4... Right now I'm very happy with my handling, it has a tad of understeer to make it very easy but it will still oversteer if I want it to. I feel safer with this, and I rarely push it where my rear tires break traction around a corner... I just don't want it kicking out where I lose control, and I've had that in a previous car

Is your A4 Quattro? If it is it's pretty much impossble to oversteer "out of controll". Before I got the RS4 rear sway I couldn't get my car to oversteer at all. If I turned in hard, or got on the gas hard it would just understeer super bad. Now my car is almost perfectly neutral, but will give just a bit of oversteer if I push it really hard. It's so controllable that if you can get it to slide you can just keep it sliding sideways around the corner with throttle control and just a little bit of steering imput... Best $100 I ever spent on a car part

[Phrost]

Yeah, Quattro with all the basic mods.

Lets talk dry pavement (or even wet) because anyone driving Quattro should be able to do anything in the snow.

If I'm driving less than 20mph then floor it while making a sharp turn, my rear wheels break out but the car stays perfectly into the turn. I don't get oversteer, but I wouldn't quite call it understeer. If I do want oversteer, I have to turn real sharp almost with an intention to spin out or at least take up a lot of space for my "drift". Sure I've had those 90 degree turns where I would oversteer and it would take me by suprise, but that is the minority.

I'd rather have the neutral feeling I have now than have the rear kick out any more. If I bought the car to rip around corners I totally would, but I bought my A4 to be more of a cruiser.

[autoverruckt]

thanks. i have some 17.5mm spacers waiting here. i get my car back in a couple weeks and i finally get to throw them on.

What's your current offset? I had 15mm with oem 18's and rubbed. I am about 25" ground-to-fender. Put the 10mm on (rear only) and I'm all good. Here happens to be a money shot I took a few days ago and just had to take a pic with the phone. With the angle and the lighting, it looks way better than usual (so flush!).

[golfvdude]

I have tein springs sitting at a friends house. Waiting on the shocks to show up. Only cost me about 650 shipped for everything. 200 for springs and got the bilsteins for 450 at mjmautohaus(special offer). Will be installing myself so that's a plus. Hopefully, I'll install it sooner than later. Will post a picture or link to a thread. A friend is also suppose to polish up the car and get rid of most of the scratches. H&R sport does look good. I wanted something a bit lower.

[autoverruckt]

Come to think of it, everyone here preaches about shocks blowing out if you just do springs but I don't recall one single B7 person saying, "I bought just springs and my shocks blew/were horrible any time after driving around with this setup. Prove me wrong.

I was hoping to be able to go springs only too. Then about 7k miles later all of a sudden my kidney's were getting bruised and brain scrambled on a certain strip of road I commute on to work. Wife almost threw up. I don't think they "blew" but they were well on their way. This strip of road I actually only travel on about 4x/month as it was a different office I go to on occasion or just errand running. Otherwise my main office is straight, smooth and boring so why in the hell did my shocks go bad? Then again my Eibachs gave me more than the advertised drop (something like 1.75+ inch drop).

[volcomic]

What's your current offset? I had 15mm with oem 18's and rubbed. I am about 25" ground-to-fender.

Oh wow, well that would be expected, haha. 15mm spacers on OEM 18' wheels (which are et43) gives you an offset of 28mm! The "preferred" offset for a flush look is 35mm (It also depends on what size tires you're running). My wheels are et32 and I originally had 245's so the tires were almost touching the rear fenders (it rubbed... a lot). I switched to 235's the next day and now they're 2-3mm away from the fender, and there's no rubbing at all. If you switched to 10mm spacers you're at et33, which is only 1mm further in than mine (perfect)

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[volcomic]

I was hoping to be able to go springs only too. Then about 7k miles later all of a sudden my kidney's were getting bruised and brain scrambled on a certain strip of road I commute on to work. Wife almost threw up. I don't think they "blew" but they were well on their way. This strip of road I actually only travel on about 4x/month as it was a different office I go to on occasion or just errand running. Otherwise my main office is straight, smooth and boring so why in the hell did my shocks go bad? Then again my Eibachs gave me more than the advertised drop (something like 1.75+ inch drop).

"Blown" shocks make the ride soft/floaty (like an old Cadillac), not rigid or jarring. Without the cotroll of a properly functioning shock the springs just bounce back like a trampoline, haha. Not sure what would've caused that on your car

[jimmya4]

i just got h&r sport springs installed today and im pretty happy. i wish it was just a taaaad lower though. hopefully they sit a little and get that extra .2 inches or so what do you guys think? anways, no rubbing or bottoming out yet. thanks guys

[moffe]

here is my car with KW springs, should be about 35mm lowered from standard hight. But i'm running the audi sport shocks. So for me it lowered only 15mm. I'm now using 10mm spacers too, but not in that picture. So the wheels ET is 30. I have spacers in this picture too but it's only 3mm.