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    Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

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    So after lots of searching and nothing on how to change the cam tensioner seal without changing the cam tensioner itself I decided to tackle this myself. Now that I completed the task at hand, as usual I want to share my experience with my fellow AudiZiners so that all will have the knowledge.

    It was not as hard as I thought it would be, but lets start with the basics. I didn't take photos of the valve cover removal because one, it has been written about enough so no need to rehash, and two, if you can't figure that part out you should not be trying this.

    I have a 2000 Audi A4 Quattro with the engine code or ATW so this might not be the same for all applications and I don't know enough about the differences to do a write up for all but being that mine has a secondary smog pump, this works a lot easier if you disconnect both steel pipes running along side the valve cover.

    You can do this with basic tools but you will need an Audi cam tensioner tool or you will not be able to do this unless you are very creative ........

    Since I did not remove the cams I did not put the engine to TDC as recommended in most write ups. I did take the precaution of marking the sprocket and and link closets to the TDC marks and counted 16 links between the marks just in case it was able to jump a tooth but since I only released the tension it was not able to move.

    Here are the pictures I took and I will let them do the rest of the talking and I hope this is able to help someone else.




    Here is a picture of the two seals side by side and I think you can figure out which one is bad ......








    Here is the metal gasket that goes between the cam tensioner and the head.






    Notice there is a round retaining clip that has to be reused from the old seal. All you do is squeeze it with some pliers to remove and then put it in the new seal and let go as it's compression fitted. It goes into the first bolt hole.





    Here I marked the cam and chain to make sure everything went back into place the same way it came out. I used my wifes nail polish so that will be our little secret ....





    There are four bolts that need to be removed in order to get the wiggle room needed to replace the seal. There are three on the outside of the valve cover and one inside the valve cover directly to the left of the cam tensioner tool.








    With the cam tensioner free and the bad seal removed. You can tell with the amount of oil sitting in the half moon seal pathway that a lot of oil was getting by as it was literally dripping through the seal.





    Once I cleaned up the oily surface, I replaced both seals in the reverse order. When I did my research it was recommended that both seals be put in dry so after cleaning I put the half moon seal in first and then the metal gasket. The retaining clip guides it into the first bolt hole on the right hand side and then I alternated bolts as I tightened them down so as to get a good even seal.

    Here is the finished job with the new valve gaskets ready to get put back together. I would say the entire job took me about an hour.











    Of course I double checked everything to make sure that nothing had changed from when I first took it apart. I put this off because I thought it was going to be harder but it ended up going pretty smooth.
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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    nice write up. I will ahve to try this

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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    Dirty girl but no sign of sludge. I did this 2 weeks ago with cams and tensioner out.
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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    Quote Originally Posted by nebone22 View Post
    Dirty girl but no sign of sludge. I did this 2 weeks ago with cams and tensioner out.
    What service were you doing that you had to get that deep into it?
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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    Tensioner itself. Effng POS
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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    May I ask, where did you aquire that Audi Cam Tensioner tool from? Great DIY, by the way. I will do this in maybe a couple weeks or so. I have a leak either there or valve cover.

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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    Quote Originally Posted by Seerlah View Post
    May I ask, where did you aquire that Audi Cam Tensioner tool from? Great DIY, by the way. I will do this in maybe a couple weeks or so. I have a leak either there or valve cover.
    I bought it off of ebay for like $22.00 Here is a link from where I bought it from.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-AU...6905QQtcZphoto

    If you do this service it should take care of your leak as you will have to replace your valve cover gasket as well.
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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    Thanks!

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    Re: Cam Tensioner Seal (DIY write up)

    Just did this on a customer's Jetta. Not too bad.

    I don't really like the tensioners though. I really think Toyota had something going with the 3S/5S style cam drive. The split gear w/ built in tensioner was a good idea. No noise, no chain, and all you had to do was line up the dots, none of the 16 links b/s.
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    Where does the blue half moon piece go? I can't see it in any of the pictures.

    Also, when you put that tool in, do you just slip it under the chain and tighten it so that the tension remains taught and then undo the 4 tensioner bolts? Or is there more to it? The DIY doesn't really specify.
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    You can do it that way. There is a cam cap bolt (not holding down a cam cap, but same type of bolt) that holds the tensioner in place. Once this is undone, you can move the tensioner. One thing to know is to stop torquing down the tool once you feel extra tension. that is as far as it is to be tightened. Go tighten more and you are liable to crack and break the tool. It's plastic. Cam bolt gets torqued to 7ft/lbs I think. If you have a decent feeler method, then just snug and you are good to go.

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    ^^^^ thanks. Also thanks for the response in the other thread. Is it necessary to get the motor to TDC?
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