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    grrrr. wont shift!! help!

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    wow i dont know how to explain this situation.. the car wont shift.. its as if the clutch wont let the shifter engage in any gears.. but when i book it, i can shift to 3rd 4th 5th and 6th.. but from stand still i cant shift to second.. i have to turn the car off.. put it in firrst then start the car and go.. also it wont go in reverse........... i fell like i have to rev match to shift gears!! with no clutch!

    anyone have a clue?? i was thinking its eithe rthe short shift linkage, tranny mount? engine mount.. or my friend says its the head cylinder.. anyone with any clue?
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    Any recent mods/repairs before this started?
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Hows the tranny fluid level?

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    no recent mods done, it was always notchy shifting.. and now it seems like its not aligned atj all or the clutch is just not being dissengaged and engaged..
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    It could be that the shifter linkage is loose and not aligned properly. It could also be that the PP has a broken finger. I would first try aligning the shifter. Is there a lot of play in the shifter?

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    WHAT THE FUCK!? i just hopped in the car today.. and everything is fine.. :s WAT could be the issue???? something was out of line!! i dont know what could make this happen.. any ideas?
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Sounds like a loosely aligned shifter.

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by YMJ View Post
    WHAT THE FUCK!? i just hopped in the car today.. and everything is fine.. :s WAT could be the issue???? something was out of line!! i dont know what could make this happen.. any ideas?
    Be careful YMJ. This is how my symptoms started. Was having trouble one day then all of the sudden it started to work again. I was like PHEW... The BAM!!!!! Clutch went.

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Very well could be a bad PP...

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    sorry whats a PP?? i think the linkage is loose to be honest.. there isnt much play in the shifter.. i have a JHM short shift kit.. and neuspeed before that.... neuspeed was very notchy.. the JHM is much better.. but still notchy here and there.. so i think the linkage is defenitly the issue.. or a mount.. i really cant tell cause im no expert..
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    PP = Pressure Plate

    The exact same thing happened to me last month, though I wasn't as lucky as you to where one day it magically worked okay again. Everything was fine...then one day I started my car, drove normally out of the garage to the stop light and all of a sudden couldn't shift into any gear unless I turned the car off (put it in first) and then rev-match every shift. edit: It also would not go into reverse at all.

    I thought (hoped) it was the shifter linkage, hydraulic system (fluid level), or slave cylinder, but it turned out a finger on the pressure plate snapped off. Apparently it's happened to quite a few people on here already. I ended up replacing the clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, everything.
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    i had the same problem and my clutch was out
    i could only shift when car is off and not running

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by ewuzh View Post
    PP = Pressure Plate

    The exact same thing happened to me last month, though I wasn't as lucky as you to where one day it magically worked okay again. Everything was fine...then one day I started my car, drove normally out of the garage to the stop light and all of a sudden couldn't shift into any gear unless I turned the car off (put it in first) and then rev-match every shift. edit: It also would not go into reverse at all.

    I thought (hoped) it was the shifter linkage, hydraulic system (fluid level), or slave cylinder, but it turned out a finger on the pressure plate snapped off. Apparently it's happened to quite a few people on here already. I ended up replacing the clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, everything.
    Exact same thing happened to me.
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by RolledMySTi View Post
    Exact same thing happened to me.
    hey thanks guys... how much do you think it costs to replace the PP, and or the clutch?
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    could be the 1 and 2 syncros
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jerbel View Post
    Very well could be a bad PP...
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    i would be one of the fingers snapped... sounds like thats what happened
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    what is the cost for this? to fix? any possible mods?
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    With labor it could be around $3k depending on what clutch you run. But that's at high Cali labor prices.
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by RolledMySTi View Post
    With labor it could be around $3k depending on what clutch you run. But that's at high Cali labor prices.
    i just got a heart attack.. 3 grand? LOL..
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    email me about clutch options.

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    the thing is, im gonna ride it out... right now my turbo's are whining too AND this.. im just gonna wait till one of them goes... then throw 10g's at the car!! go stage 3..
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    This just happened to me today. Whats the fix?

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by YMJ View Post
    the thing is, im gonna ride it out... right now my turbo's are whining too AND this.. im just gonna wait till one of them goes... then throw 10g's at the car!! go stage 3..
    if you eventually plan on the stage 3 just wait, once the motor is out whoever installs would be bitches to charge you much for a CLUTCH job at that point! Thats when I had mine done along with timing belt etc. all the maintenance all at once
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    My ride has given me problems shifting into reverse since i've owned her. Some days she shifts fine, other days it takes a couple seconds before she will allow me to shift and it will grind like i missed a shift. The previous owner had the clutch and flywheel replaced so I don't know what the issue is.

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4 View Post
    if you eventually plan on the stage 3 just wait, once the motor is out whoever installs would be bitches to charge you much for a CLUTCH job at that point! Thats when I had mine done along with timing belt etc. all the maintenance all at once
    LOL nothing but bitches here in canada.. they charge for taking a step to the car... LOL.. i wish i lived in the states when it came to tunning and mechanics works! much better work done in the states.. here no one wants to do a FMIC install... i called a couple of shops.. they wanna charge me a grand to install it, cause its a bitch to do it.. and they dont have skills to do it i guess! LOL
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    One day My car couldn't access R, 1st or 6th and could barely get it into 5th. Took it in and it turns out that the plastic socket part of the shifter linkage had gone to crap. Got the JHM linkage upgrade and now it works as good as before. Get the linkage checked.
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by washyourrhands View Post
    could be the 1 and 2 syncros
    hmmmm out of 3 trannys i have seen do the same thing brother its your synchros...if not your lucky but out of 3 i have seen one of them being mine, its the synchros...if 1st and 2nd don't shift then reverse wont either...dont force it and try to make them shift you may bend the forks and also mess up the linkage so get it looked at i can 85% guarantee its the damn synchros...i hate them...lol
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by YMJ View Post
    the thing is, im gonna ride it out... right now my turbo's are whining too AND this.. im just gonna wait till one of them goes... then throw 10g's at the car!! go stage 3..
    get ready for more headaches, more money more problems...you need to fix problems before upgrades...the smartest thing i ever did in my s4 was to disassemble the tranny and get the 1st and 2nd gear and forks cold fired...along with the stg4 clutchmaster and a fidanza flywheel and i can tell you haven't had anymore issues with my tranny...gl with stg 3 though...
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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by YMJ View Post
    LOL nothing but bitches here in canada.. they charge for taking a step to the car... LOL.. i wish i lived in the states when it came to tunning and mechanics works! much better work done in the states.. here no one wants to do a FMIC install... i called a couple of shops.. they wanna charge me a grand to install it, cause its a bitch to do it.. and they dont have skills to do it i guess! LOL
    Too bad you're not in Calgary. I do all sorts of crazy service work for people around here

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    Re: grrrr. wont shift!! help!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jerbel View Post
    Too bad you're not in Calgary. I do all sorts of crazy service work for people around here
    if you know anyone here in toronto thats good let me know.. good pricing is a must as well!
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    Hey my 2001 S4 just did this yesterday. i cant shift into 1st 2nd or reverse even if the car is off. from what i know the collar is broken and can break alot when alot of pressure and rpms are used when shifting... right now im looking at used trannys for 1500 and my uncles shops going to put it in for 1000..... if you find anything else let me know plz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinkos View Post
    Hey my 2001 S4 just did this yesterday. i cant shift into 1st 2nd or reverse even if the car is off. from what i know the collar is broken and can break alot when alot of pressure and rpms are used when shifting... right now im looking at used trannys for 1500 and my uncles shops going to put it in for 1000..... if you find anything else let me know plz
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