$2500 for NAV, better be a damn good system...

[jmoney]

Has anyone used the new system? Maybe someone who has a 09 a5/s5. Is it worth the money? I know it comes was a backup camera but still. I can buy a tom tom for like 200 bucks.

[BMWBig6]

Just go to a dealer and play around with an A5 nav. Another thing to consider, the B&O stereo (if you order that option) will sound better with the Nav option because the audio signal is processed digitally. Without nav, the B&O loses a little sound quality due to analog conversion.

[klee]

i can't believe they're charging $2500 for the old generation nav. how much is the new generation gonna cost then? geez.

[A4Ber]

i can't believe they're charging $2500 for the old generation nav. how much is the new generation gonna cost then? geez.

it cost 2900 to get it on the a3, is ridiculous . However a lot of people now days prefer a built-in one. It does look nicer but it definitely not worth the much. I ordered mine with the NAV package though. If i am willing to pay 40K for a car, I guess I will pay 2500 more to make it looks nicer.

[aaron1085]

i don't know...some after market ones look good with a clean install and are $1000+ cheaper. I see your point about spending $40,000 on a car and if you break it down over the financing period it doesn't seem like that much.

eh, we all pinch pennies in some way. to each their own.

[timw]

Personally, I like having GPS on my phone rather than buying a tomtom/garmin GPS... that way, I can have GPS anywhere and even on friends cars when I'm riding with them.

Btw, I use a HTC TYTN II... great GPS on the phone.

[Brian@AudiMV]

Considering that the Nav in the 2008s was $2100, and you're only paying $400 more to have voice control, a color information display and a rear backup camera, I'd go with it!

[Snarlynx]

seeing as how telenav on a phone works better for the most part and is free for me and $10 a month to people that don't work for ATT... no way I'd get it.

but to each their own...

[jonmiles]

Just go to a dealer and play around with an A5 nav. Another thing to consider, the B&O stereo (if you order that option) will sound better with the Nav option because the audio signal is processed digitally. Without nav, the B&O loses a little sound quality due to analog conversion.

Not true. I challange ANYONE to a blind test, and if someone can honestly tell the difference, I'll eat my shirt.

[BMWBig6]

Not true. I challange ANYONE to a blind test, and if someone can honestly tell the difference, I'll eat my shirt.

Apparently enough people have noticed a difference (though it may only be perceptible to the most discriminating audiophiles):

"Second, digital audio transport on MMI/navigation cars. At first this may not sound significant, but buyers selecting the B&O audio option have reported differences between cars that have one of the radios compared to cars with the MMI/navigation. B&O comes with a different amplifier depending on whether or not the car has the MOST data transport. On cars without MMI/navigation, audio from the radio in the front is transmitted analogically (radio is in line-out mode) to the B&O amplifier in the trunk, on cars with MMI/navigation this transportation is done digitally using the MOST bus. Thus MMI/navigation cars are able to offer some additional user-options for the B&O amplifier like some extra surround processing that are not present on cars without MMI/navigation. Some users have also reported inferior sound quality on cars without MMI/navigation, which might be explained by the analogue line-out audio transport instead of going all digital over MOST."

* http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/...a5realmmi.html

[orb]

thanks for that link, that was a good article.

[jonmiles]

Apparently enough people have noticed a difference (though it may only be perceptible to the most discriminating audiophiles):

"Second, digital audio transport on MMI/navigation cars. At first this may not sound significant, but buyers selecting the B&O audio option have reported differences between cars that have one of the radios compared to cars with the MMI/navigation. B&O comes with a different amplifier depending on whether or not the car has the MOST data transport. On cars without MMI/navigation, audio from the radio in the front is transmitted analogically (radio is in line-out mode) to the B&O amplifier in the trunk, on cars with MMI/navigation this transportation is done digitally using the MOST bus. Thus MMI/navigation cars are able to offer some additional user-options for the B&O amplifier like some extra surround processing that are not present on cars without MMI/navigation. Some users have also reported inferior sound quality on cars without MMI/navigation, which might be explained by the analogue line-out audio transport instead of going all digital over MOST."

* http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/...a5realmmi.html

^So I guess they are suggesting that the Digital to Analog conversion in the B&O amp is better than in the MMI unit.

PS- You have the best avitar on Audizine

[Fathom]

Has anyone used the new system? Maybe someone who has a 09 a5/s5. Is it worth the money? I know it comes was a backup camera but still. I can buy a tom tom for like 200 bucks.

Here is the single biggest diffrence in NAV vs non NAV. When you get the NAV on the A4 it moves the MMI Controls to the center console as oppsed to being on the dash, it makes a HUGE Asthetic Diffrence on the car. YOU CANNOT have the controls on the center console without having the NAV, regardless of the package options.

[Tiesto]

Here is the single biggest diffrence in NAV vs non NAV. When you get the NAV on the A4 it moves the MMI Controls to the center console as oppsed to being on the dash, it makes a HUGE Asthetic Diffrence on the car. YOU CANNOT have the controls on the center console without having the NAV, regardless of the package options.

Oh yes, having the controls in that area is very convenient.

Anyone got pics of a B8 A4 without the Nav option?

[BMWBig6]

PS- You have the best avitar on Audizine

Thanks! I created it from a flyer I saw on the web advertising a Japanese Audi event.

[DeMOROlized]

^So I guess they are suggesting that the Digital to Analog conversion in the B&O amp is better than in the MMI unit.

PS- You have the best avitar on Audizine

Well, cars without Nav don't really have true MMI. They have an MMI-like interface. It's like the B7 RNS-E with it's MMI-like interface.

[jmoney]

Intersting... sound like ill be getting the nav system. The dealer found me this one

A4 2.0 SEDAN 4-DR AUTO QUATTRO $NA
Exterior Color: X5X5 METEOR GRAY PEARL EFFECT $NA
Interior Color: GD BLACK $NA
Options: 3Y5 POWER REAR AND MANUAL SIDE SUNSHADES $NA
6W9 FRONT PLATE FILLER PANEL $NA
PNK AUDI NAVIGATION $NA
WPT PRESTIEGE

MSRP of $44,300.00

Pretty damn pricey....

[blkb7]

Not true. I challange ANYONE to a blind test, and if someone can honestly tell the difference, I'll eat my shirt.

dude, u can't tell the difference between when the source is analog and digital??

does 6XL sound tasty??

[Fathom]

Well, cars without Nav don't really have true MMI. They have an MMI-like interface. It's like the B7 RNS-E with it's MMI-like interface.

But on the B8 the car comes with true MMI and then you can add the Nav option, just like on the A6 & Q7

[DeMOROlized]

But on the B8 the car comes with true MMI and then you can add the Nav option, just like on the A6 & Q7

That's not correct. B8 cars without Nav have an MMI-like interface, not the true MMI.

[ed@mtl]

Well if you were in Canada. The Nav would set you back $3500.

[jmoney]

Here is the single biggest diffrence in NAV vs non NAV. When you get the NAV on the A4 it moves the MMI Controls to the center console as oppsed to being on the dash, it makes a HUGE Asthetic Diffrence on the car. YOU CANNOT have the controls on the center console without having the NAV, regardless of the package options.

Went to the dealer this weekend. The General manager promised me that all premium plus cars and prestiege cars will have MMI controls on the center console. Only the base premium models will have the controls on the dash. So he saids....

[Fathom]

Went to the dealer this weekend. The General manager promised me that all premium plus cars and prestiege cars will have MMI controls on the center console. Only the base premium models will have the controls on the dash. So he saids....

That does not coincide with the Cars I have and the information from Audi. I can take pictures of the cars if you like, however they will be on the dash, just like the A5 unless nav is purchased on the car.

I have 3 premium Plus cars and 3 Premium cars right here right now and they are all on the dash. It is a sad and unfortunate truth.

[jriddle11]

I drove the car today (2.0 and 3.2) and I liked them both, but I want to drive the s line before I order one. According to my dealer the s lines will not be avaiable right away, becuase the wheels are on backorder from Audi. Also they informed me that you have to get Nav to have the controls for the MMI in the center console. I can't wait to order mine.

[DeMOROlized]

Went to the dealer this weekend. The General manager promised me that all premium plus cars and prestiege cars will have MMI controls on the center console. Only the base premium models will have the controls on the dash. So he saids....

My advice - don't hold your breath.

[Killerteve]

I can't wait to check this out for myself. I will definitely be getting a factory nav down the road when I get a B8. I'm done fucking around with maps and the GPS on my iPhone still doesn't compare to the factory integrated nav, not to mention it makes the interior look 10x more classy.

[GO-GOTEKNO]

the fact that'll be integrated is almost worth it