I need advice... and help / fuel pump

[Antekaudi]

Hey

So i woke up this morning i turn my car on and hear this squeaky noise in the back, first thing i think FUEL PUMP...

I drive it to work and back with no problem although the noise got more intense.

What are the symptoms of failing fuel pump ?

What should i do ? Drive till it dies ?

Where can i get new one/ used and how much are they.

Is it easy to replace them ?

I have 30 k miles.

Thanks everyone

[dirtybrd]

What year is your car? 03 has a fuel pump recall. I'd change the fuel filter.

[aaaudiprotein]

What year is your car? 03 has a fuel pump recall. I'd change the fuel filter.

Every 03 model?

[koolade9]

What year is your car? 03 has a fuel pump recall. I'd change the fuel filter.

+1

Changing your filter will take some of the strain off the pump and buy you more time... not to mention it should be done as a part of regular maintenance anyways...

[monkey323i]

Hey

So i woke up this morning i turn my car on and hear this squeaky noise in the back, first thing i think FUEL PUMP...

I drive it to work and back with no problem although the noise got more intense.

What are the symptoms of failing fuel pump ?

What should i do ? Drive till it dies ?

Where can i get new one/ used and how much are they.

Is it easy to replace them ?

I have 30 k miles.

Thanks everyone

replaced my fuel pump for $700 1 month ago.
My model was 02 3.0Q , so didn't get covered by recall.


if it is the fuel pump, then it will finally lead to failure of pump and car stall.

when you heard the sound from pump, usually is too late to replace the filter. The damage on the pump is alraedy been done.


However, few cases that the driver found the sound quick enough and immediately replaced the filter has successfully resolved the issue.


First of all, u'll need a tecnican to make sure what exactly is the cause.
Do not ignore it.

[dirtybrd]

Every 03 model?

I think so, call your dealer with the Vin#.

[NVR STSFD]

Every 03 model?

Mine was not included when I talked to the dealer.

[Antekaudi]

My car is 2005 and i have 30k miles on it.

I think its to late for fuel filter. But should i change it anyways ?

Is it worth buying used fuel pump ? from lets say car-part website?

Thanks

[orangelmo]

Mine was not included when I talked to the dealer.

Originally mine wasn't either when mine died. Paid out of pocket for pump, fuel filter and relay and swapped it myself. A month or 2 later I got a letter from Audi saying mine was on the list of vins so I got reimbursed. Maybe they updated the list to included more or even all '03s

[Antekaudi]

There is fuel pump for 250$ on ecs tuning.


VDO - OEM Fuel Pump Assembly ES#3711


Thats oem pump ? Please help i need to get mu car running.

[Stockton]

Ok everyone hold your horses.

I just replaced my fuel pump, literally minutes ago. I just got back from the test drive.

See a few threads down on thefirst page I asked for help and never got any(thanks) but I figured it out on my own.

Whoever said they paid $700 for a fuel pump got ripped off.

I did it myself. It's not to hard.

You just pull the back seat bench out.

There's a black cap with 3 screws on the passanger side, this exposes the fuel pump cap.

If you're going to order a fuel pump you should also get a filter if you haven't done one. My pump started going so I did my filter. Gave me some time but my pump died about 5k miles later so I just did the Pump and Filter again.

If you're changing th pump you should do the filter.

I did need to buy a special tool from a member on here. The 3307 tool. It cost $80 or more new. He gave it to me for $70 shipped.

I'll send it to you for $60 shipped. You can't tell it's ever been used and I just got it today and I can stick right back in the same packaging and send it out asap.

I have the Bentley Manual too. If you don't I can take screen caps for you and show you the steps it fairly simple and straight forward especially with the one special tool to get the pump out

It says you need 2 special tools but first is just to turn a brass lock ring and you can do that with a flat head and mallet no problem.

Here are two tools it says you need I tried it without the 3307 but I coudln't get it out and I didn't want to brake anything and create more of a problem so I waited for the tool.



Also try to have as little gas in the car when you do it...I unfortantely had a full tank and lost about 1/4 of. 1/2 tank or less you should be golden.

PM me or email me at [email protected] and I will help you completely with this since no one helped me with mine and it was frustrating but now that I'm done I realize how easy it could have been with some help.

[Stockton]

Also order your parts here for stuff like this.

ECS is great but for stuff like I prefer GenuineVWAudiparts.

http://www.genuinevwaudiparts.com/pa...05&catalogid=1
http://www.genuinevwaudiparts.com/pa...05&catalogid=2

I'm assuming you have a Quattro 1.8t the pump is $228 and the filter is $26.

I've been dealing with him for quite some time and he's a good seller that only send real genuine Audi/VW parts.

[Antekaudi]

Thanks alot.

Did u take any pictures while changing it ?

Is the SPECIAL TOOL really needed ?

[Stockton]

Thanks alot.

Did u take any pictures while changing it ?

Is the SPECIAL TOOL really needed ?

Only pics I have are in the thread I made asking for help.

I wasn't planning on making a DIY but I guess I should of.

The Bentley Manual is the best to follow. It's direct, there's not other way to do it.

You pull the bench out of the back, unscrew 3 philips heads. Then there's 2 electrical clips and 2 gas line clips then you turn the brass lock ring and pull the top of the fuel pump cap up and there you have it.


As far as the 3307 tool some people have said you can do without. I tried and tried for 2 days doing different things but I couldn't get my hand in to get enough leverage and its a thin plastic cylinder you're turning with not much to grab but little tabs the special tools locks into. I was afraid to try using a screw driver and banging it cause of the plastic brakes then not even the special tool will work and you'll really be screwed.

If I had to do it again, and had all the parts and tools, I could do it under 30 minutes no problem.

I can get you the screen caps of the manual if you want and if you want to try it without the tool go for it but if you find out you need it I have it if you want it, you're just gunna have to wait for it to ship while your car is half apart like I did.

That's your call.

I can take pics of my old fuel pump that's been removed if you want to see it for a reference of what I'm talking about.

[Antekaudi]

Yes please send me some pics of fuel pump and screenshots of the manual.

I will first try without the tool and if i cant get it i am gonna buy it from you.

Thanks alot man.

[Stockton]

Ok I just plugged my camera in, battery was dead.

I'll take pumps of the pump and I won't have screen shots of the manual till tonight cause my manual is on my laptop and that's not with me right now.

Is your car running right now?

[Antekaudi]

Still running but i am not gonna drive it because i need to get it to my dads garage which is like 20 miles away.

So i am just gonna wait for the parts take everything and drive.

Why ?

Thanks again just let me know when u get the pictures.

[brewmastr]

you are CVT which means your front wheel drive, make sure you get the correct pump, your pump is in the trunk not under the rear seat and is diffrent than the quattro pump

[Antekaudi]

I am not cvt. Oo

I got 2005 usp. 1.8turbo quattro manual 6spd. with 30k miles on it.

[Stockton]

I am not cvt. Oo

I got 2005 usp. 1.8turbo quattro manual 6spd. with 30k miles on it.

Ok good to know.

I have an '04 1.8t Quattro man 6spd myself.

The FWDs are much easier to do from what I saw in the manual for some reason.

Nothing can ever be easier for the Quattros.

[Stockton]

Alright man, here's what the top of the fuel pump assembly will look like.

I imagine you're looking down into a coffee can just barely bigger then this with this inside of it and full of gasoline.

Also the cap will be attached to it, I cut the fuel line and wires off as you can see to get the cap out of my way since it was coming out anyway.


Here is how the tool fits into the square cut out notches. I couldn't get my hand in there and get leverage on the little bit there was to grab and I didn't want to break anything and make it worse. The tool goes all the way around and connects into all 4 nothces, you can only see 2 here cause my hands in the away.

[teg2audi]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...highlight=fuel

Fuel Pump DIY

[Stockton]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...highlight=fuel

Fuel Pump DIY

Holy crap that is the worst DIY ever.

It totally skips the part of getting the actual fuel pump out.

After you get off that top white cap with the fuel lines in it the fuel pump is submerged under that inside the gas tank.

That's the hard part.

[Stockton]

Audi > B6 Platform > 2002 - 2005
Fuel Supply System
20 - Fuel tank, vehicles with all wheel drive up to 06.03

Fuel delivery unit, removing and installing







Keep in mind those are straight directions. There are other warnings about dealing with your fuel system that I didn't provide to save room and time.

Use common sense. Disconnect your battery. Remove your gas cap for a few seconds then replace it prior to opening the fuel lines.

Be careful and have plenty of rags handy. I also had a small bucket to throw the fuel pump in.

[Antekaudi]

wow thanks :)

Where is the fuel filter by the way ?

[Condo]

wow thanks :)

Where is the fuel filter by the way ?

http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224783

[Stockton]

Just don't do the filter and the pump at the same time.

If you lift the back up with the fuel pump open gas will pour out forward.

I would do the pump first, then before you even turn on the electrical I would do the filter so that way the lines shouldn't be pressurized so much.

[teg2audi]

Holy crap that is the worst DIY ever.

It totally skips the part of getting the actual fuel pump out.

After you get off that top white cap with the fuel lines in it the fuel pump is submerged under that inside the gas tank.

That's the hard part.

My bad i just looked at the first few pictures guess it's a little more difficult.

[Antekaudi]

Do you think fuel pump from 2.7 s4 will work ?

Just the inside of it ( the motor or w.e it is) ?

Thanks