The software to end all software

[AudiA4_20T]

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3950909

If I didnt just drop cash on my setup, I would probably do this

[B6Lovin]

that looks promising to say the least. unfortunately im gonna be a sheep on this one and wait to see a few other cars using it first lol

[CO AVANT]

So it can be used on Drive by wire apps?

[AudiA4_20T]

So it can be used on Drive by wire apps?

Yea man, just plugs right into the stock ECU clips and uses all factory sensors

[A4 TSCHUSS]

where does it say it works with drive by wire? Then wonder where the H you would get it tuned besides the guy who made it which is located im sure extremely far away from almost everyone.

[mtbrider]

Interesting stuff

[nihil]

I like!

[AudiA4_20T]

where does it say it works with drive by wire? Then wonder where the H you would get it tuned besides the guy who made it which is located im sure extremely far away from almost everyone.

Id tune it in my driveway, if a few of us got this thing there would be maps for everything... Think about it this way

You get your car, you want a chip, you get a chipped map on stock injectors, then you get bigger injectors to max out the k03, you get a new map, then you upgrade to a 28RS, so you make a new map, then you decide to do 3071R, you get a new map, then you get a 35R, you get a new map

and its all $1400 ... O and its not this Revo BT bs thats supposed to work for everything

[317ssayzarc]

its standalone... kevin WONT tune it for you and thats the point... you get to custom tune your car for your setup, which is priceless... the (big) reason (imo) 1.8t's dont make as much as their asian counter parts is because standalone/piggyback is widely available to them, but not to us... the serious standalone 1.8t's are the business, just like the other imports

[dirtybrd]

Looks interesting!

[CO AVANT]

I feel revo BT software is holding me and many others back. A custom tune will always be a better bet since it is optimized for your exact combination of parts, elevation, etc. I will be really interested in this if it works on DBW. If I didn't lose a bunch of shit like rpm gauge, I'd just switch to drive by cable in a second though. Be the guinea pig Jake

[317ssayzarc]

I feel revo BT software is holding me and many others back. A custom tune will always be a better bet since it is optimized for your exact combination of parts, elevation, etc. I will be really interested in this if it works on DBW. If I didn't lose a bunch of shit like rpm gauge, I'd just switch to drive by cable in a second though. Be the guinea pig Jake

I just might be... I have absolutely no problem at all having any part or anything kevin puts his name on, in my car... but with that said, id have to sell my tapp file (could be a biggie), hook up the evap for obd2 (no biggie), hook up the 2nd 02 sensor for obd2 (no biggie), hook up stock maf (eh, kinda a pain to build an intake), put in stock injectors (dont have em), and then pray the car passes... luckily i dont have to worry about inspection now, shit, i dont even need to take the car out of the garage to do that... but later the law could change or my contacts could change... id need a foolproof plan..

[AudiA4_20T]

I feel revo BT software is holding me and many others back. A custom tune will always be a better bet since it is optimized for your exact combination of parts, elevation, etc. I will be really interested in this if it works on DBW. If I didn't lose a bunch of shit like rpm gauge, I'd just switch to drive by cable in a second though. Be the guinea pig Jake

I would think it would work for DBW man... This is your ticket to power, maybe you wont have to run race gas 24/7 mwhahahah

[F16HTON]

Basically Kevin (or somebody for him) took the time to utilize a SEM similar to Megasquirt (could be Megasquirt with a modified board) and designed it to mount into the factory ECM slot for VWs and eliminate much of the wiring associated with SEM installs.

The megatune software is very easy to use (I have tuned a couple of cars with it), however it may be a bit before we see something like this for the B6.

A couple of hurdles we face are the integration of SEM to our DBW system are the drive by wire throttle body and the extensive use of CAN protocol.

This is not to be said it cannot be done, just please do not expect to buy this SEM and bolt it into a B6 right now.

I am by no means knocking the product, it is very cool they took the time to condense the typical SEM wiring and use the factory harness.

[CO AVANT]

This is your ticket to power, maybe you wont have to run race gas 24/7 mwhahahah

Ouch that hurts man lol

[317ssayzarc]

know what, i just may do this... i want a wideband ecu, i want antilag, i want an egt input, i want full throttle shifts, i want a map and no maf, i WANT it!

[F16HTON]

Jake, your car is a perfect candidate, just remember though, the OEM sensors are not always the best choice for SEM.

[AudiA4_20T]

Basically Kevin (or somebody for him) took the time to utilize a SEM similar to Megasquirt (could be Megasquirt with a modified board) and designed it to mount into the factory ECM slot for VWs and eliminate much of the wiring associated with SEM installs.

The megatune software is very easy to use (I have tuned a couple of cars with it), however it may be a bit before we see something like this for the B6.

A couple of hurdles we face are the integration of SEM to our DBW system are the drive by wire throttle body and the extensive use of CAN protocol.

This is not to be said it cannot be done, just please do not expect to buy this SEM and bolt it into a B6 right now.

I am by no means knocking the product, it is very cool they took the time to condense the typical SEM wiring and use the factory harness.

But Kevin has been tuning SEM systems for DBW VWs... I think that he is going to integrate it into the DBW system. If its not done now it will be soon. There is too big of a market with VWs to not have a DBW version, hed be missing out on a ton of money without it

[317ssayzarc]

Basically Kevin (or somebody for him) took the time to utilize a SEM similar to Megasquirt (could be Megasquirt with a modified board) and designed it to mount into the factory ECM slot for VWs and eliminate much of the wiring associated with SEM installs.

The megatune software is very easy to use (I have tuned a couple of cars with it), however it may be a bit before we see something like this for the B6.

A couple of hurdles we face are the integration of SEM to our DBW system are the drive by wire throttle body and the extensive use of CAN protocol.

This is not to be said it cannot be done, just please do not expect to buy this SEM and bolt it into a B6 right now.

I am by no means knocking the product, it is very cool they took the time to condense the typical SEM wiring and use the factory harness.

kevin has me7 dbw applications listed on his site... and im leaning towards a condensed autotronic since thats what hes used for a long time now... he also tweaked the megatune a bunch to make it more user friendly (not that it wasnt before)... dont forget, this guy made haladex work with standalone!

[317ssayzarc]

Jake, your car is a perfect candidate, just remember though, the OEM sensors are not always the best choice for SEM.

which sensors specifically greg? i tuned a 3rd gen rx7tt with standalone and all stock sensors and it worked out great...

[F16HTON]

You do not seem to get it...the B6 A4 is not a DBW VW it is an Audi...

Even the best VW/Audi tuners are still having a hard time getting it right.

The B6 market is very small, there are 100 MKIV VW's to every one Audi in the tuning world.

This is not to say he will not make one that is plug and play, but you have to remember we use CAN protocol and the MKIV VW does not.

[317ssayzarc]

You do not seem to get it...the B6 A4 is not a DBW VW it is an Audi...

Even the best VW/Audi tuners are still having a hard time getting it right.

The B6 market is very small, there are 100 MKIV VW's to every one Audi in the tuning world.

This is not to say he will not make one that is plug and play, but you have to remember we use CAN protocol and the MKIV VW does not.

damn, geeky computer words dont register here

i can see this getting over my head and me just sitting on the sidelines lol

[F16HTON]

kevin has me7 dbw applications listed on his site... and im leaning towards a condensed autotronic since thats what hes used for a long time now... he also tweaked the megatune a bunch to make it more user friendly (not that it wasnt before)... dont forget, this guy made haladex work with standalone!

I am not saying he has not done very good things...you have deep pockets and could convince him to do it, you have the perfect car for him to break into this market with since it is non DBW.

[317ssayzarc]

I am not saying he has not done very good things...you have deep pockets and could convince him to do it, you have the perfect car for him to break into this market with since it is non DBW.

you need to talk to mike lol, my pockets = shallow lol
he'll tell you all about how im a cheap jew (i really am)

anyways, i was considering going standalone when i got bored of the 35r and went vrt, but maybe now itll be on the 35r... i see a long discussion with kevin coming soon...

[F16HTON]

I would not consider you a cheap Jew. From our business dealings (Deutsch Teile Haus) to your family, you and your father like to make educated decisions and know that you are going to receive a valus for your dollar spent. If you father did not think this way, he would not have any $$. His business principles have been passed down to you.

Deep pockets was just a joke...

[AudiA4_20T]

I would not consider you a cheap Jew. From our business dealings (Deutsch Teile Haus) to your family, you and your father like to make educated decisions and know that you are going to receive a valus for your dollar spent. If you father did not think this way, he would not have any $$. His business principles have been passed down to you.

Serious comment for AZ

[B6Lovin]

^no kidding. that's real talk right there


**edit cause i didn't feel like adding another OT post -- (to JBM below me)

its things like that - and greg/mike's attitudes in general towards their business that makes me want to go back to them when i need things. they're good guys and will go the extra mile to help you out. honest opinions, professionalism, helpfulness, and a great knowledge of ALL their products are just a few things on the list of stuff that makes them great IMO...

in short - they're actually worth giving your money to, and this is proof

[JBM]

props for that.

[317ssayzarc]

I would not consider you a cheap Jew. From our business dealings (Deutsch Teile Haus) to your family, you and your father like to make educated decisions and know that you are going to receive a valus for your dollar spent. If you father did not think this way, he would not have any $$. His business principles have been passed down to you.

Deep pockets was just a joke...

damn, greg laying it down on AZ... lol (that was just a joke)

i appreciate the comment, although ill never be the businessman my father is, its nice to hear things said like that

[IceMole]

This sounds like hondata k-pro I used on my rsx, if I can tune that, you guys can certainly do this.

[dirtybrd]

No DBW yet, a quote from Kevin,

"Hi Chris,
I am working on DBW support for the future but it is not available yet.
Currently I make a plugin adapter harness for the MK4 and Audi cars and have
them convert to DBC."

Thanks,
Kevin

[04QuattroTurbo]

Has anyone mentioned it is not supported on the AMB engines? I checked the website and could not find that it does.

[Don Supreme]

^ See comment above...

[dougyfresh]

You do not seem to get it...the B6 A4 is not a DBW VW it is an Audi...

Even the best VW/Audi tuners are still having a hard time getting it right.

The B6 market is very small, there are 100 MKIV VW's to every one Audi in the tuning world.

This is not to say he will not make one that is plug and play, but you have to remember we use CAN protocol and the MKIV VW does not.

I concur. The B6 is complex and difficult for even the few that know how to tune ME7. My car is one such example. Hence why I can not turn the boost up right now with the current file in my ECU (logs look like s**t and its not safe). However, I have faith that Mark@ASP will figure it out. He seems to have figured out 2003+ B6s. Just not 2002 since its very different. It'll just take some time.

Jake's car is a B5 DBC so he's car should fit this SEM very well.

[Don Supreme]

^ I may convert and go with this as well...

[dougyfresh]

^ I may convert and go with this as well...

yeah. I saw your posts on the vortex thread.

[JMRQuattro]

i'm sorry to be the first noob in this discussion but.... i'm lost, what exactly is the point of this? As in what does it do and what is the benefit of it over the regular ECU? All of this is gibberish to me lol

[F16HTON]

i'm sorry to be the first noob in this discussion but.... i'm lost, what exactly is the point of this? As in what does it do and what is the benefit of it over the regular ECU? All of this is gibberish to me lol

I'll answer for you.

Basically is is a standalone engine management system that has been tucked away into a nice package the size of the OEM ECU. It has the capabilities of plugging into a VW or Audi Wiring harness and using the existing wiring and sensors in the car to interface with a software package to tune your car.

In it's current configuation, it is not too compatible with the B6, however with demand comes solutions.

You could compare it to products such as 034 EFI, autronics, Megasquirt and DTAfast.

[F16HTON]

If you were to use this with the B6, as it sits right now you would probably have to conver to a cable throttle and add a fuel line return, they may have to also adapt the PC board inside to be compatible with the pin outs on our ECM

[JMRQuattro]

so does it mean you can make your car faster easier lol???