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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

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    I bought my A4 new in 2003. A few days ago my coolant message started blinking. I took the car to the dealer and the service agent took off the cap under the hood and told me the "old" coolant fluid was in there which is GREEN. He said the newer models have RED fluid. I noticed a small leak from the plastic fluid container. If there is any problem I'm taking it to the dealer and they can pay for their mistake. How do you put in the wrong fluid from the factory??????

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Elliott's Avatar
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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    I highly doubt you are running the original coolant from 2003.

    Besides, taking your car to the dealer over a coolant warning?
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    Actually the fluid is good for 100K. And yes I took the car to the dealer. Why would I buy a $25 Gallon of fluid that I'm only going to use a fraction of when I can go to the dealer and have it done for free?

    Huhhhhhhhhhhhh???????????????????????????

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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    Quote Originally Posted by budfox View Post
    Actually the fluid is good for 100K.
    That may be, but it wont physically last for 100K, lol. Check your rear coolant flange (do a search) and you will see that the 100K fluid probably leaked out and was replaced with cheapo fluid
    -Sami-

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    Veteran Member Four Rings GO-GOTEKNO's Avatar
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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    Prey that this cheapo coolant wasnt mixed with the original pink factory G12 cooloant (which you are supposed to be running),its supposed to turn acidic when mixed...Demand the dealership do a coolant flush and change out with G12

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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    Prestone makes a coolant that can be mixed with the G12. I've been using it for months.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings absolutegtr's Avatar
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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    You can also use Dexcool. It is a GM fluid, but exactly the same as G12
    -Sami-

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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    Quote Originally Posted by budfox View Post
    Actually the fluid is good for 100K. And yes I took the car to the dealer. Why would I buy a $25 Gallon of fluid that I'm only going to use a fraction of when I can go to the dealer and have it done for free?

    Huhhhhhhhhhhhh???????????????????????????
    Sometimes its better to pay from ur pocket than take it to the dealer, specially for small things like this. The time for driving back and forth + time taking an appointment or waiting for it to be done + paying for gas both ways, etc, might not even be worth it. But hey, everyone has his own habits :)

    Personally, anything above $120 and am at the dealer :)

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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    yeah the dealer is 5 min from my house and i just drove it up there talked to the dealer and in 2 min he put fluid in my car and i was done.

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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    I would flush the coolant and put in G12 or the newer G12+. Here's a cut and paste of the basic idea of why (thanks google):

    "O.K., now my opinion about this G11 to G12 changeover. In order to
    understand this better, I'll tell you what I know about coolant. Buy
    only high quality antifreeze-cheap brands can be straight ethylene
    glycol minus important corrosion inhibitors and lubricants. ALWAYS mix
    50/50 with water(preferably distilled) or follow ratio recommend for
    your climate. Never top off coolant tank with straight
    coolant-preferrably small amount of distilled water or your 50/50
    mixture. Use common sense, large amount missing means that if you
    refill, you are going to throw off the glycol to water ratio, and it is
    very important. Antifreeze should never exceed 65%. Exceeding 85% will
    cause the silicates to drop out of suspension and goo up to clog the
    radiator and reduce heat transfer. VW recommends the water and
    compressed air treatment to upgrade to G12 because up to a third of the
    coolant is still trapped in the heater core and the engine after you
    pull a hose or the drain cock. This flush ensures that you are removing
    all accumulated rust, scale,silicate buildup and old coolant as best as
    possible. By the way, the blue and red coolant will foam up and turn
    brown in your expansion tank if you mix them or don't get all the G11
    out. The degree of corrosion that takes place in your VW depends upon
    the type of minerals and alloys in the engine and radiator, and the
    acidity or alkalinity of the coolant. So long as your coolant remains
    alkaline, corrosion will be held to a minimum. Conversely, acidic
    coolant hastens the corrosion process that occurs between the cast iron
    and the aluminum present in the engine and radiator. The corrosion
    inhibiting chemicals that are added to you coolant is what keeps the
    alkalinity on the high side of the Ph scale. That's why adding
    aftermarket wetters and boosters is not smart because you are altering
    the already unknown alkalinity of your coolant(no matter how new, it
    varies depending on mix ratio, mineral content, additive content) More
    important, this alkalinity ratio doesn't have to be bigger to be
    better-it just needs staying power. This is measured as alkalinity
    reserve(how long your coolant can resist corrosion) The enemies of your
    coolant are heat, dissolved oxygen and minerals which react with the
    metal surfaces in your engine depleting the capacity of the coolant to
    resist becoming acidic. Therefore, changing the coolant annually or at
    least bi-annually guarantees that you never exceed the coolants ability
    to resist corrosion. European car makers like VW specify coolant
    additives lacking in phosphates and including borates and low silicates
    because their water is harder and it reacts with phosphates to create
    calcium and magnesium deposits. The Japanese disagree and specify high
    in phosphates and low in borates and silicates because they fear lack of
    maintenance will cause borate corrosion. This is the reason you see the
    little "phosphate free coolant " only from vw under the expansion tank
    cap-or it will void mf's warranty. It seems that in my opinion, the
    original G11 coolant must have been a poor acidic retardant-either from
    the reaction to the water installed from the factory and/or an additive
    package that was insufficient to go more than a couple of years on North
    American water. Mixing the two coolants causes problems because you get
    saturation of the silicates and gelling inside the engine, thus the
    specific ritual flush with water and compressed air. I firmly believe
    that no matter what proportion VW used for an additives package with the
    G12 coolant, it too should be flushed out and refilled every year or
    two. Considering that it isn't that much work and it beats playing with
    litmus paper and rebuilding your cylinder head. By the way, the
    corrosion we usually see on VR6s is surface etching that rubs away to
    leave pits-almost always around any flange that attaches to the head, or
    on the water jack inlets comprising the head gasket. They're usually
    good to go because they are far enough away from critical sealing areas,
    but we do replace heads when they are questionable. I really doubt that
    the new metal gasket is the reason for the G12. There is actually no
    bare metal on the gasket and all the passages have sealer from the
    factory around them. I think the reason was simply that G11 didn't
    provide long enough reserve capacity and coupled with poor maintenance,
    they were getting too many warranty problems."
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Re: Dealer used WRONG ANTI-FREEZE FLUID In NEW AUDI

    Thanks bro

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