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    HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

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    So I was driving home today and now my car is shaking. I don't know why it happened but it might have happened right after I had to slam on my breaks a couple of times because people in front of me were stopping randomly or crossing without looking. Now when I drive my car it shakes. Its that feeling the car sometimes makes when you upshift too early or when you are breaking and don't take it out of gear. Except worse. Its the worst in low rpms. When I get it up to 4th gear around 2700 rpms its not too bad at all but still apparent. I feel it when I idle and its real bad when I am in low gear/revs.

    I opened the engine coolant slightly and it all started leaking out. It looked like it was leaking from the bottom and I think it was boiling. No clue whether or not that is normal. I have 72500 miles and my clutch was replaced at a little under 70k.

    Can anyone please help. This is a huge pain in the ass. Every time I start to save a little money my car falls apart. I got my tax return then of course my clutch cost 3200 to fix so that went all that. I'm about to get my security deposit back on my last apartment but now I have to fix this ish. Please Help!

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    Sounds like the clutch assembly, take it back to the shop that did the clutch replacement and have them evaluate the vibrations you described.

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    Check your coil packs. I'm guessing that is your problem.
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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    sounds like your coils are done
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    Whats the deal with coil packs? What are they? I've seen a ton of stuff online about people bitching about how much they cost to fix and them always being broken. What am I instore for here?

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    The coolant system is under pressure when the engine is operating. Opening the coolant reservoir cap on a hot car is dangerous. It will also cause coolant to bubble out (it is expanding). When the car has cooled down open the reservoir cap and check the coolant level.

    I do not believe the coolant is cause for your car troubles.
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    This should help. (thanks to Tgr Clw) Clicky click
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    So it sounds like I could fix this for less than 50 bucks?

    If I go to the dealer to get the coil pack, how much do you think they will charge me to VAG it to find the culprit CP? I don't mind the musical chairs game, but if I'm at the dealer anyway, and its cheap I would do it, partly because I want them to make it so I can open/close windows with button instead of inserting the key.

    Will the 'check engine' light go away if I replace it myself?

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    Quote Originally Posted by kaizr View Post
    So it sounds like I could fix this for less than 50 bucks?

    If I go to the dealer to get the coil pack, how much do you think they will charge me to VAG it to find the culprit CP? I don't mind the musical chairs game, but if I'm at the dealer anyway, and its cheap I would do it, partly because I want them to make it so I can open/close windows with button instead of inserting the key.

    Will the 'check engine' light go away if I replace it myself?
    Most dealers charge between $50 and $100 to run a diagnostic. You can do it yourself for under $50 following Tgr Clw's DIY. The CEL will go away on its own after a few run cycles. You can program the windows yourself for around $20. Clicky click
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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    Quote Originally Posted by kaizr View Post
    So it sounds like I could fix this for less than 50 bucks?

    If I go to the dealer to get the coil pack, how much do you think they will charge me to VAG it to find the culprit CP? I don't mind the musical chairs game, but if I'm at the dealer anyway, and its cheap I would do it, partly because I want them to make it so I can open/close windows with button instead of inserting the key.

    Will the 'check engine' light go away if I replace it myself?
    The dealership in my area charges a minimum 1 hour charge for whatever it does. So 1 hour, = $125 to check the VAG-COM, you might as well have them replace it for you. Are you under any kind of warranty? This is covered by the CPO warranty.

    Actually, you may want to change all of them, it cost me less than 121.00 to get all four, which I keep in the trunk, since if one goes out, the rest may follow.
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    Awesome old guy. I will reserve my full praise until after I come back from the dealer tomorrow with a working coil pack and having spent less than 50 bucks.

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    47 dollars and change! Each! How much do your dealer's quote you?

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    Should I call VW, will their part work in my car?

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    VW said 'about 45 dollas' too.

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    hey man its easier and cheaper to just order them from like ecstuning.com or something and replace all four of them yourself, its really not hard at all and you will save yourself a boatload of cash, worse case cenario is that you just buy them from the dealer for 47 a piece and swap them yourself, but if you have other means of transportation untill the middle of next week then i would order them like now and fix it yourself when you get the parts in, thats just my .02 cents!! good luck let us know how you make out

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    I noticed ecs has a number of types. If I were to buy myself a back up set of four, whats the difference/importance of getting the various stages or the Bremi vs OEM. Do I need the pack with the spark plugs and shield or is the best way to go the OEM four pack ?

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    Quote Originally Posted by kaizr View Post
    I noticed ecs has a number of types. If I were to buy myself a back up set of four, whats the difference/importance of getting the various stages or the Bremi vs OEM. Do I need the pack with the spark plugs and shield or is the best way to go the OEM four pack ?

    Just get 4ea, OEM Bremi PN: "06B 905 115 R" coilpacks.

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    there is OEM or Bremi. Not OEM Bremi. Thanks tho. Also I am having trouble getting out the old ones. Do I need to do something, or just pull it out of the engine?

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    pull it straight out. and then unclip the wire
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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    Quote Originally Posted by kaizr View Post
    there is OEM or Bremi. Not OEM Bremi. Thanks tho. Also I am having trouble getting out the old ones. Do I need to do something, or just pull it out of the engine?
    Bremi IS OEM. And pull harder. disconnect the harness connector first.,

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    Ok I was just being a puss before. Its harder to pull out than the diy made it look. Also, as I was doing it my car stalled and was harder to start the next time. Do we have a different problem here or am I still looking at coil packs?

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    Told the parts guy I found 4 pack for 110 online, so he dropped the price from 47+ to 32.50. Not too bad. Now off to try to fix the broken one(s).

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    Re: HELP! Major Mechanical Problem, Potentially

    you probably only have one failed coilpack. if you bought 4 new ones, either replace them all now and put the 3 good old ones in your trunk for emergency spares, or (since the old ones still have life in them) just replace the one failed pack.

    Get the OEM "R" packs, as stated above

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    Fixed it. Now I just need to figure out which ones are good so I can have some spares.

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    yeah im with you on that one...^^ i just changed my coil packs about a month ago, and i dont really know which ones are about dead and which ones are good lol car had 45k on the clock when i replaced them

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    Get Hitachi ones....
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    dude how did you spend $3200 on the clutch job??? i had mine replaced at the stealership and after parts and labor it only came to about $1600...which was still a lot!

    wait until your car is completely cool and open the coolant reservoir (very slowly). if there's a lot of pressure and the coolant still leaks out you have a problem with your cooling system. possibly even a blown head gasket. i doubt this is the problem, but check it out to be sure!

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    Lampy: Thats about what I thought it would cost. I was quoted at 2200 and that included 70k maintenance (250ish), new battery (320!!!) and clutch job, 1600. But then 3 weeks! later when its finally ready they tell me its 3200. They said the flywheel had to be replaced and that was a 900$ part. I was not told about this adder until I showed up to pay/take my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaizr View Post
    Lampy: Thats about what I thought it would cost. I was quoted at 2200 and that included 70k maintenance (250ish), new battery (320!!!) and clutch job, 1600. But then 3 weeks! later when its finally ready they tell me its 3200. They said the flywheel had to be replaced and that was a 900$ part. I was not told about this adder until I showed up to pay/take my car.
    $320 for a Battery? Did you get a Flux Capacitor with that as well? 70K maintenance for $250? Geebus cripes, did they at least lube you up before they stuck it in? 70K maintenance: Oil and filter change. Flywheel is reasonable, I guess for this car...wow...
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    I don't remember the details exactly. If I knew the battery was going to be that high/needed to be replaced in the first place (It broke down one night, forgot where I parked, couldn't find for two months, didn't have keys when towed, dealer got keys, dealer couldn't start, dealer had to replace battery). It sure as hell better be the best battery ever. I know that 320 includes labor which was 115 or so and some 'diagnostic' check bs.

    One thing that confuses me a bit though, is the manual lists about 15 things for the 70k checkup and the receipt mentions basically what you said, filter/oil change etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaizr View Post
    I don't remember the details exactly. If I knew the battery was going to be that high/needed to be replaced in the first place (It broke down one night, forgot where I parked, couldn't find for two months, didn't have keys when towed, dealer got keys, dealer couldn't start, dealer had to replace battery). It sure as hell better be the best battery ever. I know that 320 includes labor which was 115 or so and some 'diagnostic' check bs.

    One thing that confuses me a bit though, is the manual lists about 15 things for the 70k checkup and the receipt mentions basically what you said, filter/oil change etc.
    14 of which is inspection...LOL...115 labor for a battery is down right criminal. You can take your battery to any parts store and they will test it for free. If the car won't start and lights won't turn on or are dimming, then it is the battery. How much diagnostics do they need to do? I agree, $320, it better be able to power your car, my car and a few other members here. A really good battery should be no more than $90...for a truck! Dude, I feel bad for you. Well, at least you got the car running again, right?
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    Yea, with the new clutch and all. After driving my girlfriends accord for two months it was like I was in heaven. I only wish I could have driven it immediately before and after the clutch replacement to see if I could notice the difference.

    I wrote a long drawn out letter I am contemplating sending Audi of America about this dealership and have not yet decided to send it. Not only was the price ridiculously high but they never get back to you and it literally took weeks for something they said would take a few days and never notified me of any status change. They didn't even let me know the car was done.

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    Sketchy!

    Dealerships suck. Find a good independent shop and you can save a lot of cash in the future

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