E3 Spark Plugs

[bronz]

anyone running them? anybody heard anything about them?



http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/

[onemoremile]

I ran them a couple years ago and they were great. I had an issue that I thought was misfiring and threw them away but it turned out to be unrelated. I wish I'd have kept them and will probably order some more one day.

[Squarrl]

I considered trying them but their claims are so outlandish.

[djwimbo]

I've removed them from a number of customer cars. My $.02 is that they're junk. BUT I haven't ever pulled one out of a car that was running well when it came in.

I wish I had saved it, but I pulled one out of an Odyssey that the center electrode was loose. It misfired like drunk soldier. You could shake it and it would sound like a small spray paint can.

I am not planning on ever using them. As long as your ignition is strong enough to ignite the A/F mixture and your plug is correct for the application(heat range, gap,...), there's no need to buy some goofy spark plug. The $2.25 ones work great.

Here's some food for thought... Which by the way these are junk too.
Pulstar plugs: pulstarplug.com/howtheywork.html

[onemoremile]

The only difference between an E3 and a standard plug is the shape of the electrode. It should work a lot like any multiple electrode plug. My car ran better than the $2 MGK coppers it goes through every 3333 mile oil change.

I tried to order a set on Amazon but the site kept kicking back a message saying this was a limited quantity item and my cart had been changed to reflect the maximum allowed. Every time I entered 4 it kicked back that message and dropped it to 1. Not going to get very far like that. Maybe I should just accept it as a sign.

I do want to try these again. If they work like the NGK coppers but last several times longer then I'll be a happy camper. I should try to find out what is in the S4. I know they seem to go forever between changes.

[djwimbo]

I'm running the BK7RE Copper plugs gapped @ .028" and I'm past 10K with only re-checkin the gap about every 4-6K. No issues what so ever.

The bit of experience I've had with them, to me, they're a low quality part. I'm not saying that they don't work, or that others have had success with them. I just don't like 'em.

[Squarrl]

Advanced Auto Parts web page has them, as does Summit Racing... do a review. Apparently they are available at wally world too. I would have tried them if they were for sale in Canada. It was just to much of a pain for me to get them, so I stuck to Bosch F6TDC.

[djwimbo]

Advanced Auto Parts web page has them, as does Summit Racing... do a review. Apparently they are available at wally world too. I would have tried them if they were for sale in Canada. It was just to much of a pain for me to get them, so I stuck to Bosch F6TDC.

Probably b/c Canada doesn't want false advertising.

They're sold individually at the counter of Auto Zone, Advance Auto and O'Rileys. I don't consider that a good sales tactic. The way it's perceived by the general public is that the spark is somehow stronger b/c you bought a special spark plug.

By all means, if you want to try them, try it. ... Would I? nope.

[Squarrl]

I just saw a cobalt ad on TV that said it gets better millage then a Civic... I just went to check EPA numbers no way that's correct, just such a bad lie.

[gotaudi]

Does anyone know what the Heat range on the E3.64 are? I am trying to get plugs that are in the heat range or the Bosch F5DPOR (they are two steps colder than stock) My local autoparts store has these plugs so I might go pick some up if they are kinda what I am looking for...

[creechsa4]

i get an occasional misfire at 6500-7200 on the 2871, and this is with the f6's. i also have the same misfire on ngk bkr8eix's. i'm looking for a plug that will avoid spark blowout on my setup, without converting my ignition to standalone... my setup is on a ported/polished head...crazy flowage. might give these a shot....

[gotaudi]

I just emailed the company to see what the heat range is on these... they cross reference the plug E3.64 with the BKR7E11 (one heat range colder than stock) and also cross reference it with the Bosch FR5DTC (which is two heat ranges colder than stock.) I hope it is the colder plug...

[onemoremile]

The E3.64 is also used in the 240hp TT and the S4 so it should be the right one.

The spark plug gap could be made smaller to reduce blowout. This only works on single electrode plugs though.

[gotaudi]

The E3.64 is also used in the 240hp TT and the S4 so it should be the right one.

The spark plug gap could be made smaller to reduce blowout. This only works on single electrode plugs though.

Yeah they also list the plug for the 1992-1994 Audi S4 (engine code: AAN) and I think those came with Bosch plugs that are two heat ranges colder than the 1.8T

[creechsa4]

The E3.64 is also used in the 240hp TT and the S4 so it should be the right one.

The spark plug gap could be made smaller to reduce blowout. This only works on single electrode plugs though.

i have run single electrode down to .024-.026, seems to work better, but then my idle starts lumping cause i guess i'm not getting good idle burn. i wish i could afford those nice ign solutions coil packs, maybe that'll give me a better charge. maybe christmas!

[creechsa4]

http://www.034motorsport.com/product...roducts_id=449

sorry to threadjack, does anyone know any feedback on this cool item/s? hmmm...

[bronz]

i work at murrays and we just got a catalog in for cars for these e3 spark plugs,ill read more through it and i might order some for myself its about time to do my oil and plugs again. im trying to get the best gas milleage possible, what things should i go for?

[djwimbo]

im trying to get the best gas milleage possible, what things should i go for?

Buy a diesel Jetta

If you don't already have a boost gauge, buy one. The more that needle moves towards or past "0psi" the worse your mileage gets.

What are you getting now? I avg 27.5-28mpg on every tank. A little less if I'm being a jack ass, but that's still ~400miles/tank.

[onemoremile]

im trying to get the best gas milleage possible, what things should i go for?

Reduce rolling resistance as much as possible. 40-42 psi makes a big difference. Skinny tires make an even bigger difference. I got 34 mpg with 205 and 27 mpg with 235mm wide tires over the same 1700 mile trip. Grippy isn't great for mpg.

Pay attention to the boost gauge. Think of air as fuel.

Coast in gear when you can because no fuel is used.

Ride a bike.

[andyrew]

Are S4 coils any better than A4 coils?

I say this because I have S4 coils on my car now, came that way... Im currently experiencing spark plug blowout under high boost situations and am going to order up some more spark plugs. I think im going to get the best single prong plugs I can get locally..

[creechsa4]

s4 are the same coilpacks as a4 ndbw 1.8 packs iirc. yah i'm getting spark blowouts above 20-22 psi on the 2871. so i run @ about 18psi on pump gas.... still enough to pull from a nice evo the other day.

[andyrew]

Alrighty I picked up a set of NGK PFR6Q's... the only NGK's kragen had that were premium.

Im going to put them in now and see if its any better.. There gapped to .32 so I should be good..

[Squarrl]

Alrighty I picked up a set of NGK PFR6Q's... the only NGK's kragen had that were premium.

Im going to put them in now and see if its any better.. There gapped to .32 so I should be good..

Those are the stock plugs

[andyrew]

Well I can gap these... I gapped them all to .30

[HEEPJEEP]

Yeah Andyrew, the stock A4 packs say "S4" but that doesn't mean S4 packs. I honestly get some bad blow out at about 7500 rpm, but only three cylinders. The only cylinder not blowing out is the cylinder with the STI coil pack (no matter where I put that pack). Looks like I am going to try buying three more STI packs...

[andyrew]

More details on the STI coil packs...

[gotaudi]

with these E3 spark plugs I pulled on an average of 2-3 degrees more timing than with the NGK BKR7E. I called E3 directly and asked them about the plugs, I specifically asked about the heat range, they really didn't give a straight answer. They cross reference the E3.64 plug (the one for the A4 etc) with both the NGK BKR7E and the Bosch FR5DTC. even though the NGK is one step colder and the bosch is two steps colder. I think the timing pull was due to the plug being a little too hot for my car. I am going to just pick up a few sets of the bosch and be done with it...

[JaVa]

these were run on an engine dyno on the TV show "horsepower" in a small block chevy iirc, they claimed to make an extra 6 or so HP and get about the same in better gas milage.

[Squarrl]

these were run on an engine dyno on the TV show "horsepower" in a small block chevy iirc, they claimed to make an extra 6 or so HP and get about the same in better gas milage.

I can also claim I shit gold bricks

I think Goauid experience show that these are not for our cars.