I'm sorry. I have to vent!

[Phil_This]

Does anybody else feel guilt about driving a V8?

My round trip commute is 70 miles. This sucks!

I can only afford one car. But the thought occurred to me of maybe making my S4 a project car and dropping in a SC someday. I'll buy one of those stup!d ass driving in the left lane hybrids!

oh well... anybody else consider the same?

[ZachPDX]

Ive only had my s4 for a couple months now but I do know what your saying. I drive around 100 miles a day and its starting to eat at me.

Look at it this way.. at least it will keep the ladies who don't shave there pits away!

[MOFSTEEL]

If you're looking for a commuter car the B6/B7 s4 is definitely the wrong choice unless you have money to burn. Then again if you're going to go out buy another car you're going to have to first purchase and then insure. You'll end end spending more money anyway. So if you really want the s4 then you're going to have to live with spending lots of time at the pump.

[JMG]

It only bothers me when I'm actually at the station... then I drive out and remember why it's all worth it.

[ALWAYS4UDI]

It only bothers me when I'm actually at the station... then I drive out and remember why it's all worth it.

I completely agree. I just finished my 2 weeks of R&R back in the states and I had so much fun with my car. The thing drives and sounds amazing. If gas prices get too high and I can't afford to drive it, she'll be used as 3D artwork in the garage.

[Stevelev]

Does anybody else feel guilt about driving a V8?

Only until I debadged the V8 emblems !

[kerrys914]

What are you all getting for MPG? I thought they get atleast mid 20's for an average?

[Stevelev]

What are you all getting for MPG? I thought they get atleast mid 20's for an average?

This has been beaten to death and mid 20's is way off ... search is your friend ...

[d.p]

If you are going to get raped at the pump you might as well enjoy it my man.

[kerrys914]

Sorry I am new to teh wholw S4 thing.. It was just a quick Q as I was reading..


No worries, Search I will
Kerry

[swoyekr.]

I'm getting rid of mine for something more economical, not that it's not something i'd deal with just that it's stupid. Could be throwing money into stocks or something.

[Jdubya]

I'm getting 19-21 MPG. My Cobra was getting 11-12 so I can't complain.

[S4Fitz]

I am also seeing a consistent 19-21 mpg which is about the same as I got in my old WRX so its really not that bad.

[Maverick]

i don't know what to say to you
and I don't drive a S4

[kerrys914]

I am thinking about jumping into a 2001 or 2001.5 S4

Looks like it will cost me $850 more per year (20mpg compared to 30mpg) to drive a S4. Sounds crazy but I bet the S4 is worth the money :)

Cheers

[SuperAvant]

Yeah I just look around and see all the saps in big SUVs and think - hell if they can afford it I can.

[mystro]

Not after paying the ridicules gas guzzler tax. I bought myself a guilt free conscious.

[ngng]

I spent 180 at the pump on diesel last night :P

[Eddie Man]

Great to hear your opinion but the truth of the fact that yer driving a performance machine w/a screaming V8...

Just some quick math. At 10,000 mi annually, 15mpg and a jump of $1.00 annually for gas equates to less that $650 per year.

That may sound significant, I know...
But it seems such a dichotomy when we don't even bat-an-eye when someone spends $500-$1000 on mods.
Sh!t, I've spent that annually, easy.
We all spend $$$ on mods like it's going out of style and languish in the fact that it get's us off.
Likewise, if the V8 gets you off...
More power to you or us !!!

[91gl]

i just went a head and bought a 88 audi 90 quattro for 500 bucks and drive that to school and work everyday. its not a looker but it does 30 mpg.

[S4J]

I also own a 2001 Civic ULEV (ultra low emissions vehicle) 41mpg. I drive the S4 90% of the time because I love it. Thinking of selling the Civic. How's that for a dichotomy of the times? :)

[ChronicTeutonic]

I don't feel bad when I think about a friend of mine that has a Bentley GTC, BMW Z8, and a Merc G-55 AMG...

I also ride my bicycle to work at least 2x a week 25 miles each way. I pay to play in a different way :D

[JMG]

Great to hear your opinion but the truth of the fact that yer driving a performance machine w/a screaming V8...

Just some quick math. At 10,000 mi annually, 15mpg and a jump of $1.00 annually for gas equates to less that $650 per year.

That may sound significant, I know...
But it seems such a dichotomy when we don't even bat-an-eye when someone spends $500-$1000 on mods.
Sh!t, I've spent that annually, easy.
We all spend $$$ on mods like it's going out of style and languish in the fact that it get's us off.
Likewise, if the V8 gets you off...
More power to you or us !!!

yeah I figured a BT kit on my old B5 plus maintenance, FMIC, exhaust, clutch and brakes would cost way more than getting a 340hp stock S4 even if gas prices were high and I would have an old car with 15in stock wheels and unpainted lowers. it just made sense to me to get a stock S4.

[Mooneywa]

I traded in a 2004 Z71 Tahoe with Ranchhand brush guard, rear bumper, stock size BFG All-Terrains and safari rack/ski racks on top. I was pretty excited to get above 12 mpg in that thing on the highway. At 35,000mi/year (back and forth to Colorado a lot) I definitely am getting an upgrade in mileage. I went to St. Louis for the 4th and even when I pushed it up into the high 80 mph range I was still getting in the 20s. Not to say gas isn't expensive but it's very much all relative.

[i_eat_staples]

the s4 is an excellent commuter car, i do 50-60 miles a day and enjoy every one!

[johntesi]

Wanna trade for my 2.0T that averages 30.6 mpg, 74 mph on the 80 mile drive to my lakehouse? :D
Straight up, no questions asked!

[BsixSfour]

My average is around 14-17. Usually 12 in city, and it's hard to keep it at that; yeah, I love the v8. And around 18-20 highway; and then comes the down-shift and then it's all down to 5 mpg which ruins the average.

[GameBreaker]

I knew what I was getting into when I bought the S4, but the way I see it is I spend way too much time at work so I want to enjoy my drive no matter what. I mostly drive in the city and average 16mpg with a heavy foot, but when I do drive on the highway I usually average around 24mpg.

[Phil_This]

Thanks guys! I feel better. LOL! there are definitely a few quotable one-liners in the above responses.

My original thought really wasn't about justifying the cost of a V8... As you all have posted, that's pretty easy to do. I've had that conversation with myself. So long as I can afford it, I will continue to do so cause me loves me S4.

Actually the guilt I was thinking of was social responsibility guilt. This is just IMHO, but regardless of where you stand on global warming or war in the middle east over oil, it's kind of hard to ignore the affects on society. No matter how you might explain it to yourself, driving a gas hungry V8 doesn't help. But we rightfully exercise our right do so for pure enjoyment...

It's not about right or wrong, I'm just voicing some thoughts...

The way things are going in the world... who knows how much longer I'll be able to drive a V8! Not because I can't afford to, but because society says it isn't acceptably "green" or "sustainable".

I have a feeling most 4-5 year old future enthusiasts will not be able to do so. But then maybe they'll be into the modding of their 400 whp all electric Audi!!!

Or maybe I've just been watching too much of the Discovery, NGO and SciFi channels

[Storm33]

Yes, it's all relative folks. I've all but parked my Lincoln Mark LT truck and am driving the "doubly fuel-efficient" B6 S4 to work every day. I think I've put about 40 miles on my truck since bringing the S4 home two months ago.

My big question now is, what will the MPG be when I put the SC on the 4.2?

[AudiOso]

I drive my 1.8T Avant back and forth to work and play with the S4 on the weekends... I feel no guilt whatsoever... As far as I'm concerned all the trees and birds can die.

[Lugi20]

Burn the gas while you still can. You'll have plenty of time to feel bad when you aren't allowed to use anymore in a few decades.

[Tugboatguy]

Only until I debadged the V8 emblems !

Guilt!! I want BIGGER V8 emblems !!!!

[a4rings]

all off the green peace tree hugging lovers should really look into how large the carbon footprint of producing a hybrid vehicle is...... ill tell you this much, that its much larger than that of a gasoline vehicle.

[colonelburke]

Ridiculous. I don't feel any "social responsibility guilt" or whatever you want to call it. If you do, fine with me, but don't try to bring me down. And if the war was really over oil, don't you think we would be paying less by now, we have the power to just take it. Its a lot more complicated than that. And what about Al Gore's house? And Arnold's plane? Too many hipocrates (?sp - sorry RAudi, too lazy to spellcheck) out there telling me what I should be doing.

But I digress, as I recently did my part by trading in our '04 Expedition for a '08 Tahoe. I feel much better now.

[a4rings]

Ridiculous. I don't feel any "social responsibility guilt" or whatever you want to call it. If you do, fine with me, but don't try to bring me down. And if the war was really over oil, don't you think we would be paying less by now, we have the power to just take it. Its a lot more complicated than that. And what about Al Gore's house? And Arnold's plane? Too many hipocrates (?sp - sorry RAudi, too lazy to spellcheck) out there telling me what I should be doing.

But I digress, as I recently did my part by trading in our '04 Expedition for a '08 Tahoe. I feel much better now.

the war was about oil, dont kid yourself. and if the US "just took" the oil they would get alot of shit from other countries

[Phil_This]

Ridiculous. I don't feel any "social responsibility guilt" or whatever you want to call it. If you do, fine with me, but don't try to bring me down.

Yes. Time for some popcorn drama.

colonelburke: While I respect your opinion, I think you completely miss the point of my musings. Your defensive reaction only proves you feel there is something to defend.

You are obviously a republican. Please don't take it so seriously.

[Tiesto]

It's around $80 to fill the A8 from a 1/4 tank, but I can justify having a V8 in a car of this size.

[mus27]

Yes. Time for some popcorn drama.

colonelburke: While I respect your opinion, I think you completely miss the point of my musings. Your defensive reaction only proves you feel there is something to defend.

You are obviously a republican. Please don't take it so seriously.

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