To those with Tip: APR snub mount question...

[jonsaudi]

Has anyone installed an APR snub mount in their Tiptronic B6 1.8T and had vibrations at idle problem?? I've been reading other threads that pertain to this, like B5 w/ Tips and even Passats most of the time said they experience vibrations. Does it really make a difference in our type of vehicle?

[AudiA4Turbo22]

Yes Diagnosticator And A Few Others Confirmed U'd Get More Vibration!

[04QuattroTurbo]

This doesn't apply to the 6 speeds, does it? I'm thinking of installing one this weekend.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^u'll be fine!

[jonsaudi]

Yes Diagnosticator And A Few Others Confirmed U'd Get More Vibration!

I take it that you didn't even bother going for this mod??

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^i was going for it, because i have vibrations in my pedal area, but they said that it would only cause more vibrations and stick to something stock, or something not hardcore like APIKOL's!

[SeKKeY]

you just have to make sure the snub is centered properly and the vibration will be minimal

[AudiBama]

yeah...i let APR install mine because i could fit that in on the rest of the hour i had left after the injectors...

there is some vibration...but not much at all

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^are u tiptronic??

[Firefighter637]

I installed mine about a month ago and have a little vibration at idle. I think I need to reset the plate when the car is on and then tighten the bolts that the mount sits in, but yes you will get some vibration but its not to bad.

[Dolphin18T]

I've got one on my Tip. There's only a little vibration, but what do you expect when you switch density from that stock marshmallow?

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^was urs busted??

[kwimberly]

I'm not TIP, but after I installed my Apikol, I can't even tell my car is on when I'm in neutral at a light - it's eerily calm. Guess it's different for TIP though...

[Dolphin18T]

^^was urs busted??

No, just 4 years old and gummy.

[topcat]

no problems with vibration on mine. i've centered it properly and check when i change oil since i'm right there.

[A4TL]

you should really replace the engine/tranny mounts if you have higher mileage. the snub vibrations seem to be pretty bad (akipol and apr) when they are worn (104k). go drive a newer b6 with light miles and you'll see what i'm talking about smooth versus vibe city. the girls love the snub mount vibrations at idle :)

[Dolphin18T]

the girls love the snub mount vibrations at idle :)

Haha, more girls comment about the vibration than guys.... But I guess that was obvious.

[AudiBama]

^^are u tiptronic??

no im 5pd

[quattrotman]

I hated mine so much I took it out (I have tiptronic). Tried many times to center it but the problem is that with automatic it never really is in neutral. With standard, when you step on the clutch it's in neutral when at a standstill but with auto it's always engaged and this is when the vibration occurs. For me, the cons far outweighed to pros. To be honest, when I put in the APR snub, the only difference I noticed was the vibration. Waste of money and time IMO. I wouldn't do it unless you have a standard shift car.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

so A4TL do u recommend we replace pur snubs with stock ones, or other AM ones?

[grimlock]

I hated mine so much I took it out (I have tiptronic). Tried many times to center it but the problem is that with automatic it never really is in neutral. With standard, when you step on the clutch it's in neutral when at a standstill but with auto it's always engaged and this is when the vibration occurs. For me, the cons far outweighed to pros. To be honest, when I put in the APR snub, the only difference I noticed was the vibration. Waste of money and time IMO. I wouldn't do it unless you have a standard shift car.

Mine does vibrate when stopped but I felt what I would describe as a significant difference when shifting in tip mode. With the APR snub shifts in tip mode definitely feel "tighter". Worth the money IMO.

[clcsocal]

Wow, I almost make this mistake. I would not want more vibration. Anyone running the Apikol? Is that a good option for TIP cars? My stock only has 40k on it but is showing some slight splitting, need a good replacement option. Would love a more crispness when in Tip, but no extra vibration when stopped. Is there a good option out there?

[04QuattroTurbo]

I'm not TIP, but after I installed my Apikol, I can't even tell my car is on when I'm in neutral at a light - it's eerily calm. Guess it's different for TIP though...

My car feels the same way, with the AC off and radio off, it reminds me of a hybrid, quiet. However, yesterday with the AC blowing, I a chad a "chug, chug, chug", vibration coming from under the hood, I turned the temp down on the auto climate control and it went away. Any ideas what that may have been?

[RLB6]

If you own a tiptronic, getting an upgraded snub is a waste time, effort and money. It's not needed at all and you will not benefit from it like the manual tranny guys do. The only thing worth changing out/upgrading is the engine/tranny mounts as this is most likely to cure any vibration issues you have with your tiptronic A4.

[jonsaudi]

If you own a tiptronic, getting an upgraded snub is a waste time, effort and money. It's not needed at all and you will not benefit from it like the manual tranny guys do. The only thing worth changing out/upgrading is the engine/tranny mounts as this is most likely to cure any vibration issues you have with your tiptronic A4.

From what I gather from the majority is that snub mnt upgrade is useless for Tips but more beneficial for m/t. So you suggest engine and tranny mounts..sounds like a lot of work under the hood. But where do u think I can find the parts and a DIY write up for this??

[mxrz]

The only thing worth changing out/upgrading is the engine/tranny mounts as this is most likely to cure any vibration issues you have with your tiptronic A4.

Nonsense, you can have brand new transmission and hydraulic motor mounts, but if the front engine mount is bad or not centered, the vibration will be substantial. If it's bad, replace it with a stock one.

[A4TL]

good rule to live by: replace all worn mounts at one time. always has worked for me. the extra load a new single mount will accelerate the death of the dying(dead) mounts.

i've never had a problem when replacing all mounts at once; but in many vehicles taking the shortcut of replacing one (side) or (front) or (back) depending on the car has always left me going !@#% should have done them all.

[tray1187]

If you own a tiptronic, getting an upgraded snub is a waste time, effort and money. It's not needed at all and you will not benefit from it like the manual tranny guys do. The only thing worth changing out/upgrading is the engine/tranny mounts as this is most likely to cure any vibration issues you have with your tiptronic A4.

I agree with RLB6. My stock snub completely fell apart a few months ago and I bought into the hype and got an apr unit. The result is more vibration when in reverse (out of a pking spot). Feels like when a coil pack goes bad.

[04QuattroTurbo]

I just changed my out, I have a 6 speed. The old mount looked brand new. Maybe they changed it as part of the CPO, albeit was not indicated by the work order. I followed APR's instructions and the whole thing took 45 mins. I took my time, but had a hard time on these places: 1. the splash cover. 2. getting the APR into the bracket. 3. Getting the whole assembly back in, I had to take the part that bolted on to the body out completely to get the bracket and mount in. I centered it according to APR's instructions, idle for 45 seconds with occasional throttle blips. Then tighten, check for low vibrations...done. Feels pretty much the same, with the exception of shifting, which is noticeably smoother, but only marginally, Is it $39.99 and 45 minutes smoother? I haven't made up my mind on that yet, but, oh well, bought it and it's installed. So when do I change the APR? (how long does it typically last?)

[eg6siR]

the girls love the snub mount vibrations at idle :)

that is no lie... they really do love it

[KPC1.8TQuat]

If you own a tiptronic, getting an upgraded snub is a waste time, effort and money. It's not needed at all and you will not benefit from it like the manual tranny guys do. The only thing worth changing out/upgrading is the engine/tranny mounts as this is most likely to cure any vibration issues you have with your tiptronic A4.

Have any of the TIP drivers upgraded their engine/tranny mounts? I think 034 has a package out there if I remember. I'm starting to notice a wicked vibration when stopped in D.

Disclaimer: I didn't ask about the snub.

[onlyaudis]

I changed my tranny mounts, and that helped the idle vibration in gear on the tip. Also, we raised the RPM at idle by 30 RPM's, and that helped quiet things down too. I have the APR snub on my TIP, and didn't notice any more vibration from it as I have it centered right. I figured with Revo stage 2, my car has a lot more torque, and the upgraded snub may help keep things aligned better than the factory marshmallow when shifting.

When I had the 2.5 inch Techtonics downpipe installed, my vibrations went up a little bit again. You can't win with vibrations on the 1.8T a4 TIp cars.

[widgget]

Have any of the TIP drivers upgraded their engine/tranny mounts? I think 034 has a package out there if I remember. I'm starting to notice a wicked vibration when stopped in D.

Disclaimer: I didn't ask about the snub.

doing mine next month, i'll let you know how it goes.

[KPC1.8TQuat]

doing mine next month, i'll let you know how it goes.

cheers

[diagnosticator]

On the tip cars, it's essential that the snub mount (torque reaction snubber,) is centered with the engine and mounts up to operating temp, and the adjustment must be done with the trans in Drive, with the engine idling, and with the car on ramps.
Since the power flow is not interrupted during shifts with the tip compared to the complete disconnect and interruption of power flow that occurs with a MT during shifts, the stiffer snub mounts from APR and others has practically no benefit on tip cars. However, the gear shifts will be felt more giving the impression that the drive line is "tighter", but there won't be any improvement in reducing engine motion on the mounts the same way the MT benefits by stiffer snub mounts. Transmitted engine vibration (NVH) in gear will be increased, using a stiffer snub mount on a tip, noticable especially at idle speed while holding the brakes locked.
I often slip the trans into neutral on my tip during long lights then shift back to Drive or tip mode before the light changes again, but it's easy to forget to shift back into gear occasionally, you have to be paying attention to the lights and avoid distractions.

[diagnosticator]

My car feels the same way, with the AC off and radio off, it reminds me of a hybrid, quiet. However, yesterday with the AC blowing, I a chad a "chug, chug, chug", vibration coming from under the hood, I turned the temp down on the auto climate control and it went away. Any ideas what that may have been?

It's caused by the increased load on the engine from the A/C compressor set at lower cooling temps. But check the Accessory Drive Belt, and the belt tensioner, you may be due for replacing those parts.

[diagnosticator]

I hated mine so much I took it out (I have tiptronic). Tried many times to center it but the problem is that with automatic it never really is in neutral. With standard, when you step on the clutch it's in neutral when at a standstill but with auto it's always engaged and this is when the vibration occurs. For me, the cons far outweighed to pros. To be honest, when I put in the APR snub, the only difference I noticed was the vibration. Waste of money and time IMO. I wouldn't do it unless you have a standard shift car.

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[diagnosticator]

If you own a tiptronic, getting an upgraded snub is a waste time, effort and money. It's not needed at all and you will not benefit from it like the manual tranny guys do. The only thing worth changing out/upgrading is the engine/tranny mounts as this is most likely to cure any vibration issues you have with your tiptronic A4.

2nd.

[diagnosticator]

Nonsense, you can have brand new transmission and hydraulic motor mounts, but if the front engine mount is bad or not centered, the vibration will be substantial. If it's bad, replace it with a stock one.

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[darkstar]

mine broke! kinda lame