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  1. #1
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    time to upgrade car....

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    Right now i have a 2003 dolphin grey 1.8t with about 85000 miles. I'm going to sell it and look for a newer a4. Right now there is 3 cars that i cant decide on. One is a 2005 usp white 1.8t with 58,xxx miles, the other is a 2005 dolphin grey avant 1.8t usp with 43,xxx miles, the last one is B7 quartz grey 2.0t with 38,xxx miles. All these cars are about the same price, same used car place and 6-speed manuals. Right now im leaning towards the avant, the white usp is super clean, b7 is just newer and a little bit bigger engine. any input would be great.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings italian a4 1032's Avatar
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    i think the white usp would be the nicest but it has alot of miles
    i dont think the b7 is as nice as the b6 but it has low miles and should have a decent amount of time left on the warranty

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    b7 if you want to go faster.
    avant if you need the room and want to be a bit different
    I personally love a white usp but the b7 will have the warranty. For the same price I would definitely go newest.
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    Wink Re: time to upgrade car....

    I'd go B7
    Better Brakes
    More Power
    Looks Newer
    Lower Miles Too

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    ^ agreed!
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    B7. Lower miles and it will actually feel (well at least mentally) that you bought a new car and it will make you warm and fuzzy cause it's new
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    dolphin usp avant...

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    better idea lol.... a4 3.0L v6!! with front track and CVT tranny! lol
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Frey7190's Avatar
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    ^just messin... go for the b7... my gf drives it and its nice
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    2.0t is faster and the B7 has a more updated look.
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    USP Avant. Done Deal.
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    Quote Originally Posted by oregonaudi View Post
    B7. Lower miles and it will actually feel (well at least mentally) that you bought a new car and it will make you warm and fuzzy cause it's new
    yea, until september. lol

    i personally am not a fan of the b7 body, so id go with the white usp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMG View Post
    2.0t is faster and the B7 has a more updated look.
    No way.. the 2.0t isn't faster than my 3.0.. I have raced the two next to each other.. and they come neck to neck in the finish, but mine seems to pull through and win
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    B7 ftw! With just a chip it will surpass any chip stage 1 1.8T!
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    Registered Member Two Rings I Audi5K I's Avatar
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    in this order (PO)

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    Avant if you need the space or prefer the style... otherwise you're better off to go with the newer one on grounds of warranty and resale. Which, after September, will plummet anyways so buy the one you figure fits in with your lifestyle best.
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    What matters more...looks or performance?

    A USP looks a lot better than a standard (non S-Line) B7. You'd have to throw a few grand in mods to have the B7 turn as many heads. But...the B7 performs a lot better than a USP stock and chipped. So you'd have to spend a few grand on mods to make the USP perform better.

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    4. B7 (quarts grey and non S-line...boring car imo).

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    well a 2005 white USP 6 speed is my next girl, DROOOOOLLLL!!!! (gonna swap my stage 3 setup over from my 2003)

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    So how badly do you think b6's will go down in re-sale?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings 02SILVANT's Avatar
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    DG USP Avant is the way to go my friend!!! u wont regret it, Trust me. a Sedan is just another sedan!

    But again what ever fits your lifestyle!

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    thanks for the advice guys. i thought for sure more people would say the avant. lifestyle it might fit better, since i snowboard and mountain bike alot, which means a lot of driving, so the extra room might help a lot. I think this weekend i will test drive a 2.0t and see how much more peppy it feels. if it doesn't impress me much, im really not against putting a BT in the 1.8t. we shall see. one more thing are usp avants that rare? how much would you pay for one?

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    In fact USP avants are quite rare! i have a regular avant but only dream of an USP one. anyhow the avant is the perfect car for snowboarding, i have taken mine up for the past 2 years to the mountain and couldnt be more happy with the quality of quattro and the room that it has!

    Good luck with choosing the right car to upgrade with!

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    B7 2.0, if the price is the same. The other two has pretty high mileage and not before long you will be finding yourself in the same situation. At least with the car with the least miles, you will feel comfortable knowing that you know what's been done to it from 38K on.
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    USP AVANT!!!!!! that's the way to go.
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    ^^^Amen to that!

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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    Quote Originally Posted by Frey7190 View Post
    No way.. the 2.0t isn't faster than my 3.0.. I have raced the two next to each other.. and they come neck to neck in the finish, but mine seems to pull through and win
    I meant compared to the 1.8t, and if it's chipped probably faster than the 3.0 as well depending on the driver.
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    Quote Originally Posted by Frey7190 View Post
    No way.. the 2.0t isn't faster than my 3.0.. I have raced the two next to each other.. and they come neck to neck in the finish, but mine seems to pull through and win
    You must know some pretty bad drivers with your cvt.
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    Re: time to upgrade car....

    B7 - its newer, low miles and prob have better resale value.

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