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    Veteran Member Three Rings 1NaudiA4's Avatar
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    Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

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    I went in this past Saturday for emissions on my 98 A4 and obviously didn't pass due to them not being able to communicate with the stock ECU since its no longer there.

    They told me to come back Monday morning for the idle air test. So I go in this morning and prior to going in I leaned out my idle a bit to about 16 and pulled back the timing about 4 degrees.

    They hook up their probe to the exhaust but they needed a voltage signal for the rpm, but due to me just changing to the updated center console I didn't have the cigarette lighter hooked up yet. They had to go in my engine bay and hook up to the battery which I thought was for sure going to be a fail since I have no air filter on the turbo right now and just a screen. The guys actually commented me on my set up .
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    Anyways I passed by a hair on the HC... the limit was 220 and I had 219.8. I think might have been high because of leaning it out so much to the point of where it was miss firing a bit.

    Heres the spec's on my setup
    - Had the engine rebuilt with new rings. bearings, scat rods, hone, crank polished, 3 angle valve job and new valve guides and seals.
    - 034 IIC standalone
    - 860cc injectors
    - Ross machine fuel rail
    - Ceramic coated 034 manifold and downpipe
    - HTA3076r .82a/r
    - Synapse 50mm synchronic wastegate
    - Synapse synchronic BOV
    - Precision 600hp intercooler with custom 2.5" piping
    - Custom 3" downpipe back exhaust using aeroturbine mufflers (no cat)

    So far I've put about 1500 miles on the engine and everything is running good. It took a while to get the part throttle driveability tuned in on the IIC but its running good now and is daily driveable. Boost hits hard around 4400/4500rpms and doesn't stop pulling until you hit lightspeed.

    The only problem I've really had aside from a little coolant leak and figuring out a air filter solution is that theres a ticking coming the back of the head. Started after about 500 miles on the new engine so I don't think it lifter tic... I'm thinking its probably the cam chain tensioner.

    Heres a pic of my engine bay

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Howard Hughes's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Crazy.... I have a test pipe im wondering if it's going to be a problem, as last time they only plugged into my OBD port and ran a scan... but that was before my TP...

    Revo doesn't set off any fauly codes.. so I'm hoping it won't be a issue....
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Seerlah's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    You could not just slap a mushroom filter at the end of the turbo till you figured a way to route one? Or is the space that tight?

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    i was thinking the same thing, because my car has tp. do you run a cat?

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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Its not that hard to pass in IL, I had an '86 Lincoln that ran like crap. It passed with flying colors because one of the exhaust tips was rusted off half way under the car so they only hooked up one exhaust sensor. I got lucky since a fail would have totaled the car.
    '98 A4 Avant 2.8

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    Veteran Member Three Rings 1NaudiA4's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    They tried to plug into the OBDII but since I have a standalone I no longer have the stock computer they weren't able to get a signal. They tried 4 times through the port but it obviously didn't work due to the computer not being there. I passed last year with my stage III set up and a testpipe no problems though. As long as you don't have a check engine light your good to go.

    Its pretty amazing to pass the air test when you don't have a cat though.

    I actually ordered the hks mushroom filter but it ended up not fitting... I though it was rubber and would just slip over the inlet for the turbo but it actually needs a coupling.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings andyrew's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Im fiddling with the idea of never running a cat again...

    The cat that I had in my car was throwing codes left and right, and I had to smog it... So I went to ace, bought the big $20 thing of Toutline (sp?) and poured it into my gas tank; then i put a total of 5 gallons of gas in my car, swished it all around, put 5 miles on the tank various loads, cleared my codes and drove to my smog.

    Passed with flying colors, then as I was driving out, I got my CEL for the cat!!

    The reason that it works is because toutline, being like alcohol, doesnt get registered as a fuel in all the sensors.


    I passed visual with my hidden FMIC, and even my exhaust cutout (dude was looking for the cat from under the car, and as he was making his way on back I told him that it was in the engine compartment )



    Seriously though, Good job on your smog!! that engine bay looks menacing!!! Congrats!!!

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    Veteran Member Three Rings 1NaudiA4's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Thank you,
    Just gotta figure out a way to get the damn intake on the turbo figured out. It can't be good to be driving around with just a screen on the turbo... I could just imagine all the little mosquitoes that have met their fate at my compressor wheel.

    DId you get the stage III kit up and running?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings NorCal1.8T's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Clean engine bay, can i see some pics of the car???
    2018 Mercedes GLC 300

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    this is very admirable

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Quote Originally Posted by a88fl1 View Post
    Its not that hard to pass in IL, I had an '86 Lincoln that ran like crap. It passed with flying colors because one of the exhaust tips was rusted off half way under the car so they only hooked up one exhaust sensor. I got lucky since a fail would have totaled the car.
    Hey I see you live in Bull Valley. Where abouts? I live along Country Club Rd towards Ridgefield.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings andyrew's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 1NaudiA4 View Post
    Thank you,
    Just gotta figure out a way to get the damn intake on the turbo figured out. It can't be good to be driving around with just a screen on the turbo... I could just imagine all the little mosquitoes that have met their fate at my compressor wheel.

    DId you get the stage III kit up and running?
    Doing clutch and turbo kit over the next week... sooo... no



    But I have a track day (actually its a personal autox training day, 90-120 minutes of driving....Hell yes!), and I would like to learn the car with the stage 3 in...

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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Which 034 manifold, the side mount or top mount version?

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    Registered User Four Rings
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 1NaudiA4 View Post
    I actually ordered the hks mushroom filter but it ended up not fitting... I though it was rubber and would just slip over the inlet for the turbo but it actually needs a coupling.
    You can shave the housing down a little and it will work.

    Looking really good! That was actually the first manifold produced.I am assuming thats Stef's manifold.

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    Account Terminated Four Rings
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    @ 1NaudiA4: Your car looks an absolute beast!

    Well done passing the smog test.

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    Senior Member Three Rings bernB5's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    looking good man... glad you're having more luck with my stuff than I did!

    Can't wait to see some vids of it up and running. How's the 30r treating you? Is it obnoxiously loud? Mine makes me want to get a different turbo, JUST to get rid of the noise.. It's about as loud as a turbo garbage truck, under any spooling condition, whether it's at 2psi or 20.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings prodrive's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    How much psi are you running with that BAT ?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings .Mad Hatter.'s Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    theres no way that would have worked here...my car only has a TP and it would have failed....luckily my car passed with readings similiar to that of a new honda civic ;)

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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    BAY looks great. HKS Mushroom cut down will work.

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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Boost hits hard around 4400/4500rpms and doesn't stop pulling until you hit lightspeed.


    Ha i found that really funny.
    01.5 A4 1.8t sport

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Militant-Grunt's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Thats a really nice setup. In NYC AWD cars are exempt from emission testing, they only hook you up to the OBD2 machine. And even if I do have a check engine light there are spots in the city that have ways around it.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Seerlah's Avatar
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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    Does that only apply to NYC or the State?

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    Re: Passed Illinois smog today... with no cat and 034 IIC!!

    All they do is an OBDII scan.. To my knowledge the only ways "around" nys inspection is to have another car of the same year, with you at the time of inspection that passes fully. They scan your reg, then scan the passing car, and give YOU the sticker..

    Otherwise, it's all computerized. Cars from 99 and down are allowed 2 Failures in readiness.
    Old: 97 30r'd A4 ---> headaches
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    wow, and i cant pass with 04 GTI with 1.8t with a 3in catless dp.hopelly getting bfi angle spacer, and gettin codes cleard will do it.I had them cleared with doin nothing but vag-com(had generic o2 spacer) and the code came back after 25 miles.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings 1NaudiA4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by lazer View Post
    wow, and i cant pass with 04 GTI with 1.8t with a 3in catless dp.hopelly getting bfi angle spacer, and gettin codes cleard will do it.I had them cleared with doin nothing but vag-com(had generic o2 spacer) and the code came back after 25 miles.
    Only way I was able to pass was because they let me do a smog test where they actually measured the pollutants coming out of my exhaust. They changed their policies about a year after I did that smog test to basically never doing the smog tests again unless you have some super rare car that doesn't have OBD II or an old car that doesn't. I ended up registering my car out of the area this year so I never have to deal with emissions again.

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