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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

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    Hey All,

    I have a Stage 3+ S4 with an OEM RS4 clutch in it and wondered if I could gain anything by going with an aftermarket kit?

    Any recomendations???

    Tx.

    Blu

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Audi S4 Turbo's Avatar
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Ceramic or Kevlar.
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    Active Member Four Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    my stage 3 ate my rs4 clutch. i ended up going with a vast stage 3 setup
    Stage 3+ RS6's

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    Veteran Member Three Rings saucys4's Avatar
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Wicked Motorsports sells a clutchmasters stage 3/4 which is essentially a CM FX400 ceramic that can mate up with your standard sized flywheel with no modifications. The beauty of a ceramic clutch is that they are not as fragile and there is no delicate break-in process that could destroy your kevlar clutch before you even get to use it
    J Fonz Stage II+

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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    You will actually be able to launch your car with a Ceramic clutch

    I can get you a VAST ceramic clutch kit if you want.

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Thanks for the direction...now begins the serious reading!

    If you wish to share any links...I would love to read them.

    Cheers,

    Blu

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    Veteran Member Three Rings BlueturboS4's Avatar
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    my stage 3 ate my rs4 clutch. i ended up going with a vast stage 3 setup
    so you have a rs4 pressure plate with a kevlar disc. sorry still not a fan of those pressure plates. I was pleased with clutch masters though.

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    Active Member Four Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    a good majority of the aftermarket clutches use the rs4 pp. i would hardly call that the weak link...

    my rs4 clutch shit the bed, but the pp is still legit.

    the vast clutch is used by Jay, Marc and several other serious stage 3 cars that put that clutch through serious abuse.
    Stage 3+ RS6's

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    Active Member Four Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    marc being a slut and claims he only used a southbend clutch...


    oppps looks like Marc lied!

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...+clutch&page=2
    Last edited by Das General; 07-05-2008 at 01:05 AM.
    Stage 3+ RS6's

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    Veteran Member Four Rings will175's Avatar
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    ^^^Do you or anyone have pics of Marcs car when it had intrax springs?

    And to the OP Im getting a new clutch put in, it might be a little too aggresive but I dont drive my S too much. Ill post up when I get it back.
    Train Hard, Go Hard, But always be Humble.

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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Love my Vast setup.
    Keep It Simple

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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Vast Kevlar. 40 plus ~4000+ rpm launches and still holding strong. . .wish I could say that same for my rear crossmember, CV shafts, & diff mounts. . .
    JHM.Vast.034.ER.SR.AWE.RS4.Apikol.APR.Innovate.Stg III

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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    ^^^^ no kidding Southbend OFE here and I'm going Monday to get a new propeller shaft.

    Grabs and goes like nobody's business.

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Stupid question?

    I was told in the early days that some of these clutch kits had lighter flywheels for faster response time but the problem with many of the kits is that they rattled? Can anyone shed some light on this?

    Also, I don't really track the car too much, I know I'm a pu$$y, but I do value a balance between performance and drivability can anyone comment on the clutch pedal feel after installing either the VAST or the ClutchMaster products?

    Tx.
    Last edited by Blu_Bee5; 07-05-2008 at 09:40 AM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    VAST ceramic clutch with OEM FW is the way to go man...

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    Veteran Member Three Rings NOVAS4's Avatar
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jerbel View Post
    VAST ceramic clutch with OEM FW is the way to go man...
    i hope so i finally decided on that yesterday... if i get resurfaced oem fw will it be drivable for a 50mile daily commute each day w/traffic
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    Veteran Member Four Rings S4 in_lowplaces's Avatar
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    being as i drive a tip, i dont know anything about clutches, and was wondering what the diffrence is between kevlar & ceramic? Pros, Cons? Which is stiffer? I do know how to dirve stick but i hate heavy (stiff) clutches. I see a six speed in my furtue furtue, what clutch would i go with if i didnt want a stiff clutch? I assume the kevlar is bulletproof? =)
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    Active Member Four Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blu_Bee5 View Post
    Stupid question?

    I was told in the early days that some of these clutch kits had lighter flywheels for faster response time but the problem with many of the kits is that they rattled? Can anyone shed some light on this?

    Also, I don't really track the car too much, I know I'm a pu$$y, but I do value a balance between performance and drivability can anyone comment on the clutch pedal feel after installing either the VAST or the ClutchMaster products?

    Tx.
    with a light weight flywheel you will see some "chatter" at low rpms. I have the awe flywheel and it used to be fairly loud in 2nd gear when you were really lugging the engine at low low rpms.

    its really not that bad at all.
    Stage 3+ RS6's

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Re: Best Stage 3 or better clutch kit...

    Quote Originally Posted by NOVAS4 View Post
    i hope so i finally decided on that yesterday... if i get resurfaced oem fw will it be drivable for a 50mile daily commute each day w/traffic
    You bet. I drive my car everyday. You'll love that setup.

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