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    Nıtrogen vs aır

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    Hey guys. ı just got nıtrogen on all my four tıres.... what ı best nıtrogen or normal aır??
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Nitrogen has less pressure change with temperature. Basically all that means is the pressure will remain more constant when hot/cold than they would with normal air

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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    okay thanks. ı was just offered nıtrogen on all four tıres wıth aıgnment and balanıng wıth tıres off and on the car. for only 100$ ıt was good
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Same nitrogen in my tires for 2 years and never have had to fill them.

    You payed $100 for nitrogen alone or full the whole balance and alignment? Nitrogen should cost $5 per tire max...

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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    How are the nitrogen filled tyres affected in below freezing temperatures?

    We get some pretty extreme climate changes here in Calgary with chinooks (warm mountain winds) during the winter, so it can go from -40*C to -5*C within a few days. Or overnight. Then in summer it's typically around 75F - 90F. So it would seem I'm in an ideal climate for N2 in my tyres?
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Hmmm.. I have a few Nitrogen bottles at work...
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Nitrogen is much better than air when it comes to changes in ambient conditions.

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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    anyone know of chains across the U.S. that carry Nitrogen??
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    Some Big O Tire stores carry it.

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    ^^ty!
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Costco and I have seen a few Audi dealerships here in ATL that have it.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by CO AVANT View Post
    Same nitrogen in my tires for 2 years and never have had to fill them.

    You payed $100 for nitrogen alone or full the whole balance and alignment? Nitrogen should cost $5 per tire max...

    yes 100 $ for the hole thıng ıt was really proffısıonal. they had 4 or 5 people workıng on my car 1 was under the car adjustıng somethıng ı dont know what he dıd under there and the other person adjustet the steerıng and the other one was checkıng the ınspectıon on the computer. after that they took all wheel of and wheel balancıng and took them back ın and balanced wıth 2 machıne each sıde. and then he told me nıtrogen. and ı was lıke ehhh??? nıtrogen?? and then ı told hım okay just put ıt ın ........
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by A4B7GA View Post
    Costco and I have seen a few Audi dealerships here in ATL that have it.

    You have to buy your tires at Costco or else they won't fill them with nitrogen.

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    Butler Tire does Nitrogen.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    You guys do realize that "air" is almost 80% nitrogen, right?
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by 04QuattroTurbo View Post
    You guys do realize that "air" is almost 80% nitrogen, right?
    Yeah, it's the other 20% the leaks out causing you to check your tires at every fill.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Nitrogen FTW. If your tires are filled with Nitrogen, doesnt that mean you wont get huge blow out if something happens to your tires?
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by jcg05c View Post
    Nitrogen FTW. If your tires are filled with Nitrogen, doesnt that mean you wont get huge blow out if something happens to your tires?
    no

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    ^ ive heard that before, are you sure. Nitrogen is less reactive right?
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by jcg05c View Post
    ^ ive heard that before, are you sure. Nitrogen is less reactive right?
    Perhaps it is...but when your tire decides to shred/blow apart at 80mph, it doesnt matter if air or nitrogen is in it...your hitting the wall.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Nitrogen molecules are physically larger than oxygen or c02 molecules, so they leak through the rubber far less than really any other known compressed air. Yes you pay more to fill your tires with nitrogen, but you will spend roughly zero time per year refilling your tires.

    Nitrogen's pressure remains constant under basically any temperature, so your pressure is always even and constant.

    Nitrogen will improve the handling of your car because since the pressure stays constant, so does your contact patch. You will get far less "irregularities" in handling with nitrogen vs regular compressed air. You will also see a very slight improvement in fuel economy.

    Not all nitrogen is created equal, purity matters. Unless your nitrogen is at least 97-98% pure, it will act just like compressed air. Be wary of who you buy it from. I highly recommend using a Nitro-Fil location.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by jcg05c View Post
    ^ ive heard that before, are you sure. Nitrogen is less reactive right?
    Nitrogen just wont catch fire, it'll still blow out though. Oh and I wouldn't service your own car w/ a bottle unless you know what you're doing cause putting High pressure nitrogen (or anything for that matter) in your tires will result in death or dismemberment.


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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    The dealerships I work for recently started using nitrogen in all their new vehicles. Here's the run down...

    Nitrogen is a dry, inert gas. It is one of few gases actually LESS flammable than normal air. The molecules are larger than normal air, so their is less chance of a leak. Also, because it is inert, there is less fluctuation at different termperatures. And because it is dry, it will lessen corrosion on the inside of your wheels.

    So, less chance of a blow-out or leak, less corrosion, better gas mileage and tire life due to less pressure fluctuation, and it's just cool to tell people "I have nitrogen in my tires". NASCAR and other racing bodies, along with all major airlines, truckers and the U.S. military have been using nitrogen in their tires for years.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by SlappyB6 View Post
    The dealerships I work for recently started using nitrogen in all their new vehicles. Here's the run down...

    Nitrogen is a dry, inert gas. It is one of few gases actually LESS flammable than normal air. The molecules are larger than normal air, so their is less chance of a leak. Also, because it is inert, there is less fluctuation at different termperatures. And because it is dry, it will lessen corrosion on the inside of your wheels.

    So, less chance of a blow-out or leak, less corrosion, better gas mileage and tire life due to less pressure fluctuation, and it's just cool to tell people "I have nitrogen in my tires". NASCAR and other racing bodies, along with all major airlines, truckers and the U.S. military have been using nitrogen in their tires for years.
    True, but is it really worth the extra cost/hassle on the street? Probably not. I'd rather use that money towards buying my own air compressor to use at home. Also "air" is not flammable either. Yes the oxygen will help a fire that has already started, but guess what? There has to be a fire to begin with AND the car is surrounded by "air"

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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by Ill 3.0 View Post
    True, but is it really worth the extra cost/hassle on the street? Probably not. I'd rather use that money towards buying my own air compressor to use at home. Also "air" is not flammable either. Yes the oxygen will help a fire that has already started, but guess what? There has to be a fire to begin with AND the car is surrounded by "air"
    Nope, I don't see the point in paying extra for street use. Now maybe If you track alot then yeah, but I wouldn't just go out and fill up your tires w/ nitrogen just for the hell of it.

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    i would for the gas mileage improvement

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    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    i would for the gas mileage improvement
    that's what I meant by investing in an air compressor. checking pressures every couple of weeks will accomplish the same gain in MPG improvement as using nitrogen. plus you can fill your own tires anytime you want without driving to specific places for N2.

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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    i would for the gas mileage improvement
    So pay extra for the tire in your tires to save 1-2 miles on your MPG, doesn't sound very economical...unless of course I'm missing the point.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    A lot of places now are starting to fill all of their tires with Nitrogen, so you don't have to pay for it anyhow. In the long haul, the idea is that the improved gas mileage and wear on tires will out-weigh the cost of the nitrogen.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    my best friend dad whos in the tire business and i were talking a while back about nitrogen and tires and he said what % of air is nitrogen? its like 78%... so i personally dont think your going to see a huge difference in running just nitrogen to air....
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    Here's my vote: it's a waste of money.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymax_2.0t View Post
    And why does all the OP's posts "i"'s not have the dots on them?
    i noticed that too and thought my computer was going crazy, but then i noticed every one else had dots on their i's

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    seriously what kind of "i"s are those?
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    I noticed that pumping nitrogen on my Euro Van makes the ride quite smoooth though.
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    Re: Nıtrogen vs aır

    For those doubters out there, think of it this way. If you only filled your tires to 78% of the recommended pressure, don't you think there would be a noticeable difference in gas mileage and tire wear? There is a measureable difference when filling your tires with nitrogen. Not only in gas mileage and tear wear, but also in ride improvement due to less fluctuation in tire pressure.

    Why would I want to ride around checking my tire pressure every few days? Who has the time and patience for that? Not me...
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