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    So Saturday i had a ko3-ko4 from gpopshop installed on my car, new injectors, 034 test pipe, and drove 65 miles and the turbo went. Blew out smoke all over. Anyone have any problem with these Ko3's built to Ko4 spec. Just wondering.
    Now the people that have my car wont get turbo out till thursday! I need to over night it back to gpopshop so they can check it and warranty it. SUCKS I NEED MY CAR BACK.

    Those 65 miles were good thought drove nice and smooth, new brought it up over 4,500 rpm, was waiting for the breaking before i had some fun with it. So that was my wonderful weekend.
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    damn. how much did it cost u for that ko3 ko4

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by romell View Post
    damn. how much did it cost u for that ko3 ko4
    $625. and $300 to install all of that. My good friend is an Audi Tech
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    damn that sucks... mine from gpop shop was great.. lol i barely even broke mine in be4 rippin on it too... ha
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by audikid66 View Post
    damn that sucks... mine from gpop shop was great.. lol i barely even broke mine in be4 rippin on it too... ha
    Yeah i was gonna wait for like 500m before ripping it but didn't happen that way. Spoke with them down the a gpopshop, and they said they would look at it and see if something was wrong with it. Tried to get them to send me another one and then send back the F-up one but they weren't having it. They started to give me the run around, but i gave it right back.
    Got done driving on Highway and, turned down the street and heard grinding and the white smoke everywhere.
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    A bit OT but which company's k04 file did you go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimlock View Post
    A bit OT but which company's k04 file did you go with?
    Revo stage 2. Found out that the shaft broke. Got turbo out and overnited it to gpopshop.com
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Mine just died too!

    Mine made it about 60 miles as well before it started blowing oil out the tailpipe and leaving a shuttle take off size stream of smoke behind me while I limped the 5 miles back to the shop.

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by johnouellette View Post
    Mine just died too!

    Mine made it about 60 miles as well before it started blowing oil out the tailpipe and leaving a shuttle take off size stream of smoke behind me while I limped the 5 miles back to the shop.
    was it from gpopshop.com, too? Just got off phone with them the said it was "due to forign object damage" Said something got sucked into turbo and cause the shaft to break......not sure why or how something got in there. I drove 65miles. and it was fine, down shifted, turn down my road, you mean to tell me something was in there the whole time and sunddenly just cam unstuck in went into my turbo? So said they could fix it and have it back to me by Wed afternoon, but do i want to pay for a built one after I paid for a new rebuilt one. With this kinda money spending, i should have went and got a BT. I hate me!
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    hrmm sounds wierd, if it was FOD failure, the shop that installed it is responsible and they gotta be able to prove thats what it was as in have the foreign object that damaged the turbo. did you install new oil supply and drain back lines when the job was done?

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    my car was still boosting so my shaft must still be good. Not sure what would cause the seals to go though. I didn't put new oil lines on, should I have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewmastr View Post
    hrmm sounds wierd, if it was FOD failure, the shop that installed it is responsible and they gotta be able to prove thats what it was as in have the foreign object that damaged the turbo. did you install new oil supply and drain back lines when the job was done?
    I tried to find what might have cause it. My friend installed it on the side. He works for Audi, and sometime on Saturdays he can get my car in shop and work on it for me. Yes he drained everything new oil, new coolant, just wondering if he dropped something in the intake area. But not likely, he's really good at what he does. Just sucks, gpopshop claim it was FOD.
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by kneel View Post
    So Saturday i had a ko3-ko4 from gpopshop installed on my car, new injectors, 034 test pipe, and drove 65 miles and the turbo went. Blew out smoke all over. Anyone have any problem with these Ko3's built to Ko4 spec. Just wondering.
    Now the people that have my car wont get turbo out till thursday! I need to over night it back to gpopshop so they can check it and warranty it. SUCKS I NEED MY CAR BACK.

    Those 65 miles were good thought drove nice and smooth, new brought it up over 4,500 rpm, was waiting for the breaking before i had some fun with it. So that was my wonderful weekend.
    same thing here, i bought it from gpopshop, installed it...got in my car...and NO BOOST!! well, i took it off and sent it back, they said there was a piece of metal in there that prevented it from spooling. well now they sent back another one and now i cant boost more then 10psi.....WTF?? i cant win anymore, i think this turbo was a bad choice. if anyone has the same issue let me know what could it be.

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    you guys need to stop playing around with the K04 BS. Go big
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    I'm glad this thread came along. I was very close to buying a K04 from gpopshop, but after reading about multiple failures for the same claimed "must have been a foreign object" excuse, it has made me reconsider.

    Anyone know a better source for K04?

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    well im getting my K03-K04 back from Ingolstadt West early next week, I'll let you know how it goes. It could be that your original turbo was already going out, and the extra power just blew it out that much quicker? I had audi give me a new turbo under warranty before I dropped it off at the shop to make sure this wouldn't happen lol. that sucks man, I hope you guys get those problems figured out!
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    these assholes at gpopshop cannot claim FOD unless they have it in hand and can prove thats what it is, smells like a line of shit to me.

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by brewmastr View Post
    these assholes at gpopshop cannot claim FOD unless they have it in hand and can prove thats what it is, smells like a line of shit to me.
    Well go turbo in yesterday. Seems to be running good. Still have to put boost gauge in to see what it is boosting at. But drove like 70 or so miles right after i picked it up. Drove just like before it blew. No actually it drive better cause now i have Revo Stage 2 on it.

    Gpopshop, said it was FOD, but it's there word against mine, and there really long warranty. It basically covers them, in any case. I read it thru and thru. But they only charged me to rebuild it, and got it back in a day and a half. They were cool about it, i guess. But def, gonna save for a BT now. Not dealing with this shit again. So hopefully it holds up for WF.
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    well my boosting 10 psi issue was figuered out.... DV valve (apr, 2nd one this year) went bad, so i had a rebuild kit on hand and rebuilt it, but no i cant boost more then 15 psi????? so i did a boost leak test and no leaks what so ever, well... then this guy at euro code looked at it and told me that wastegate is not adjusted properly and the turbo has to come off for adjustment. WTF!!! are you kidding me this is the 3rd time i am taking this turbo off (thanks gpopshop) whatever i am saying i am in it like 800 bucks only for install issues, SUCKS! i should have waited and bought one at ecs or somewhere else, gpopshop is not worth the hassle.

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    u gotta be careful where you source turbo's nowadays. i've had buddies "go cheap" literally and have 3 fail in 5 minutes back to back. rebuilds gone bad.

    the wastegate should have been tested before putting it on (air tank).
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    damn i am happy my gpop shop turbo is awesome...ill keep my fingers crossed
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    why did you pay $625 for a rebuilt K03 to K04 specs? aren't new K04 turbos only around $700-750? seems like a foolish idea...

    i've heard a bunch of people say to stay away from gpop shop btw.

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    you you guys prime the turbos before fully starting her up? the hotsides to teh k03s are small and its pointless to have a k03-04 imo
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by AMC83189 View Post
    you you guys prime the turbos before fully starting her up? the hotsides to teh k03s are small and its pointless to have a k03-04 imo
    dont the k03 and k04 share a hotside and just have different compressors?

    hence putting k04 internals into a k03 making it a hybrid....
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    Quote Originally Posted by B6Lovin View Post
    dont the k03 and k04 share a hotside and just have different compressors?

    hence putting k04 internals into a k03 making it a hybrid....
    from what i believe the k03 hotside is smaller than the k04
    just like the rs4 k04 and teh rs6 k04 have different hot sides

    when i pull my motor ill let you know
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    no they are the same.. either way i had my hotside ported and polished.. and gpop shop uses a larger more aggressive deisgned compressor wheel then a regular k04...
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by audikid66 View Post
    no they are the same.. either way i had my hotside ported and polished.. and gpop shop uses a larger more aggressive deisgned compressor wheel then a regular k04...
    Same as a KO4. Nothing wrong so far with the new one. It make the car feel like i'm driving a completely different car. Turbo with the TP, injectors, and Revo2. I'm glad i saved for this. Just with a minor Hicup. As for now can't complain.
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by AMC83189 View Post
    from what i believe the k03 hotside is smaller than the k04
    just like the rs4 k04 and teh rs6 k04 have different hot sides

    when i pull my motor ill let you know
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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by kneel View Post
    So Saturday i had a ko3-ko4 from gpopshop installed on my car, new injectors, 034 test pipe, and drove 65 miles and the turbo went. Blew out smoke all over. Anyone have any problem with these Ko3's built to Ko4 spec. Just wondering.
    Now the people that have my car wont get turbo out till thursday! I need to over night it back to gpopshop so they can check it and warranty it. SUCKS I NEED MY CAR BACK.

    Those 65 miles were good thought drove nice and smooth, new brought it up over 4,500 rpm, was waiting for the breaking before i had some fun with it. So that was my wonderful weekend.
    Well I don't want to rain on your parade, but I will share my brother in laws experience. He bought a KO3s for his passat, installed it and it worked great (was good for him because his car had a KO3). Drove her for about 500 miles and experienced the same thing as you. He blew the seals on the turbo. The guy he bought it from was good enough to give him another turbo... Replaced it, and again worked like a champ! However 500 more miles down the road and same thing happened again... This time however the shop he got the turbo from was hessitant on sending another turbo. So I talked to a friend who is a tech, he said he needed to change out or clean out the oil pump. It was clogged and causing an increase in pressure and causing the problem.

    So step 3 - changed the oil pump with a new one, the guy from the shop that sold him the turbo was good enough to send one more (just the core) and he got it all back together.

    2k on her now, running excellent and not having any problems. So I would might look at the turbo and do a pressure check on your oil pressure. If it seems high, you have sludge issues and need to get a new oil pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesturbo View Post
    Well I don't want to rain on your parade, but I will share my brother in laws experience. He bought a KO3s for his passat, installed it and it worked great (was good for him because his car had a KO3). Drove her for about 500 miles and experienced the same thing as you. He blew the seals on the turbo. The guy he bought it from was good enough to give him another turbo... Replaced it, and again worked like a champ! However 500 more miles down the road and same thing happened again... This time however the shop he got the turbo from was hessitant on sending another turbo. So I talked to a friend who is a tech, he said he needed to change out or clean out the oil pump. It was clogged and causing an increase in pressure and causing the problem.

    So step 3 - changed the oil pump with a new one, the guy from the shop that sold him the turbo was good enough to send one more (just the core) and he got it all back together.

    2k on her now, running excellent and not having any problems. So I would might look at the turbo and do a pressure check on your oil pressure. If it seems high, you have sludge issues and need to get a new oil pump.

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    Did the test, everything is good. My friend must have dropped something into inlet pipe, or something. I"ll never know. But car is RUNNUNG GREAT!! NOW. Raced a WRX and a RSX and left both behind today. I'm happy for now.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by kneel View Post
    Did the test, everything is good. My friend must have dropped something into inlet pipe, or something. I"ll never know. But car is RUNNUNG GREAT!! NOW. Raced a WRX and a RSX and left both behind today. I'm happy for now.......
    how much psi are you peaking with this turbo??

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    Re: Turbo gone bad!

    no no not change oil pump, this is why anytime you change turbo put new drainback and feed lines for oil to the turbo, the drain back lines can become coked up and not allow the oil to drain back to the pan blowing out the seals in the turbo, and if the feed line is obstructed at all it can be lack of oil to the turbo, these lines are relatively inexpensive so replace them for god sakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utripn View Post
    how much psi are you peaking with this turbo??
    I'm not sure yet, I don't have the Revo turned up yet. We set it at a setting of 5. Gonna give it some more break-in time them with turn it up.
    And i still haven'tput the podiboost gauge on yet. Been busy with work.
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