Is this true? (GIAC)

[burn2burn]

"GIAC does not offer a trial program and there is a good reason...trial programs usually leave a traceable sign that the ecu was modified and thus risks your warranty"

Thoughts? Comments?

[kjr7888]

revo does the trial.... i was told by a revo rep that the trial does not leave a traceable sign... its all here say...

[Quattro]

revo does offer a trial version and after the trial it reverts to factory settings like nothing ever happened!!

I would suggest going with revo or apr to feel the full potential of a chip...where in socal are you located?

[AudiWxGuy]

GIAC is just as good as any other. I'm probably going to go with them when I get my next chip. They don't offer a trial, but like APR, they have a 30 day--money back guarantee.

[acidrome]

revo does offer a trial version and after the trial it reverts to factory settings like nothing ever happened!!

I would suggest going with revo or apr to feel the full potential of a chip...where in socal are you located?

U obviously have no clue what your talking about.
Your opinion is very biased especially since you kno nothing about GIAC.
Ever since you got Revo (about 2~3 months ago) all have been doin is saying Revo this..Revo that. They are a good company aswell as GIAC and APR.
Ive had GIAC-X for about a year n a half and I absolutley love it ( I've put on about 15K with it and its awesome, but you dont see me saying GIAC this...GIAC that).
I Know for damn sure that the peeps who have APR as well love it as well.

To the OP just go with which ever one that is closer to you/which ever tuner you feel more comfortable with.

They are all great, it just matters what preferance you like and also what your looking for outta your car. As of now GIAC and APR are the only ones at this time we know of that are coming out with BT kit software.

[Quattro]

U obviously have no clue what your talking about.
Your opinion is very biased especially since you kno nothing about GIAC.
Ever since you got Revo (about 2~3 months ago) all have been doin is saying Revo this..Revo that. They are a good company aswell as GIAC and APR.
Ive had GIAC-X for about a year n a half and I absolutley love it ( I've put on about 15K with it and its awesome, but you dont see me saying GIAC this...GIAC that).
I Know for damn sure that the peeps who have APR as well love it as well.

To the OP just go with which ever one that is closer to you/which ever tuner you feel more comfortable with.

They are all great, it just matters what preferance you like and also what your looking for outta your car. As of now GIAC and APR are the only ones at this time we know of that are coming out with BT kit software.

LOL far from it, ya i have revo and love it and I am giving my opinion based on what I have done. I tried GIAC for awhile, to me it was crap really didnt feel much difference from stock. Does that make GIAC less than REVO? NOT AT ALL, GIAC wasnt for me, I like the options REVO gives me (not going to get into it because you might cry if I talk about revo)

Apparently, my fondness with revo is bothering, but I could care less. If you havent read my other threads, I say go with the tuner close to you. Since you been following my threads I am sure you have read that.

In the end all chips do roughly the same and go with what tuner is closer to you.

To conclude, revo this, revo that =)

[redhott06]

revo<3
solely because i love to mess with my boost/timing etc. AND i dont want a cel when i run a testpipe.. those are the major differences i believe. but im no expert. def go with which ever dealer is closest to you, just in case.

[AudiWxGuy]

LOL far from it, ya i have revo and love it and I am giving my opinion based on what I have done. I tried GIAC for awhile, to me it was crap really didnt feel much difference from stock. Does that make GIAC less than REVO? NOT AT ALL, GIAC wasnt for me, I like the options REVO gives me (not going to get into it because you might cry if I talk about revo)

Apparently, my fondness with revo is bothering, but I could care less. If you havent read my other threads, I say go with the tuner close to you. Since you been following my threads I am sure you have read that.

In the end all chips do roughly the same and go with what tuner is closer to you.

To conclude, revo this, revo that =)

That makes no sense in regard to your GIAC comment. Maybe the place you went to didn't install it right, b/c that's the first time I've heard anyone say that about GIAC.

[Quattro]

That makes no sense in regard to your GIAC comment. Maybe the place you went to didn't install it right, b/c that's the first time I've heard anyone say that about GIAC.

I had my chip installed by jeff moss at torque factory, I am sure he did it right. GIAC to me, felt closer to stock than REVO. I was not very descriptive about my GIAC experience, but it was TO ME the same as stock, I felt a little gains but nothing out of the ordinary.

I am trying to not make this a comparison between chips, I just didnt enjoy GIAC as much as I taught.

[3.2some]

I'm letting the cat out of the bag......quattro works for Revo....he is only here to pimp his software....i know because he tried to sell it to me too....it's horrible really :p

[Quattro]

LOL thats why you the homie phill, i got a roof spoiler i might wanna sell....you interested? lol <3

p.s. I wish i worked for revo free software =D

[3.2some]

LOL thats why you the homie phill, i got a roof spoiler i might wanna sell....you interested? lol <3

p.s. I wish i worked for revo free software =D

dude quit making me buy shit off you!!! I've been eating Ramin noodless for the past 6 months bro!!!

[acidrome]

cry baby cry..... It might not have worked for u, GOOD. do you want a waamburger?, or should I just call u a waambulance...

Your opinion is still biased! and your arguement makes no sense.

[3.2some]

cry baby cry..... It might not have worked for u, GOOD. do you want a waamburger?, or should I just call u a waambulance...

Your opinion is still biased! and your arguement makes no sense.

why don't you marry GIAC already???lolzzz

[Quattro]

cry baby cry..... It might not have worked for u, GOOD. do you want a waamburger?, or should I just call u a waambulance...

Your opinion is still biased! and your arguement makes no sense.

ya call the waamblance, call whoever...I am much happier with revo...what opinion is not biased? who cares, well you do i guess...

how this thread turn into what I like and have? I like it though, just not fair to the OP. I love attention though, makes me feel loved that people follow my mods and i even have an ugly car!! man sooo cool thanks !




phill he might marry GIAC...had a comment but ill refrain from it

[AudiWxGuy]

I just think he is wrong here. If GIAC felt that way, there would be no point in them even selling software for $550 a pop.

[acidrome]

I never said Im INFATUATED with GIAC... If you took the time to read my post I just said the ur lil buddy is biased. haha

[slimmj0k3r]

maybe he had the crappy giac-S chip the first one that came out for our cars?

i love my giac and id be the first to say i am giac biased haha, then again theres nothing else around me.

[Quattro]

like I said I FELT!!! not saying that it is like that, just what I FELT haha, thats all I FELT.

acidrome, seems like we hitting a touchy subject of you and GIAC, care to share how much you love it and wanna sleep with it at night?

Ok thats all from me, I am getting bored and making more useless posts!

[3.2some]

I just think he is wrong here. If GIAC felt that way, there would be no point in them even selling software for $550 a pop.

there would be a point in them selling it for 550...to make money. there wouldnt be a point in people buying it is what you mean. either way, obviously GIAC software is quality as most people who have it are happy with it. Quattro did not have a good experience with it so he's just stating his opinion, it doesn't mean that he's wrong. he has not hidden agenda and he has no reason to lie either. it just means that he needs more powerfull software

acidrome and GIAC need to get a room, it smells like sex in here

[AudiWxGuy]

gotcha.

[acidrome]

Wow Quattro, u really dire much attention dont you?
Good for you that you love Revo....GREAT!!!!! u still want a cookie...I bet you do.
Hitting a touchy subject????? not at all, just like your more than happy with your software soo am I.

Lets just leave it on the track and dyno runs...

[acidrome]

acidrome and GIAC need to get a room, it smells like sex in here

I bet it does..... all you know how to do is talk nonsense with ur lil lover boy Quattro..

[Quattro]

I bet it does..... all you know how to do is talk nonsense with ur lil lover boy Quattro..

lover boy? wow now thats taking it to another level...you havent seen phill, he is damn sexy.... my gf was like omg phill....lol

look for us at the next meet so we can talk about giac and revo some more, ill bring you a t-shirt that says, " I LOVE GIAC AND I WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO KNOW IT"

[BLACKa4QUAT]

i like revo. and the giac dyno's i've seen that have been comparable to revo and apr, giac was lacking. to me itd be either revo or apr. but revo does have more user-end tweaks that can be done.

[IceMole]

AWE dynoed GIAC X chip @ 260hp 305ft/lb crank

[acidrome]

will do, as long as you keep your promise.

[AudiWxGuy]

i like revo. and the giac dyno's i've seen that have been comparable to revo and apr, giac was lacking. to me itd be either revo or apr. but revo does have more user-end tweaks that can be done.

What you're saying makes no sense.

Also, I'll be visiting AWE-tuning in a couple weeks and going for a ride in an A4 with GIAC-X. This may be my next mod. I'll let you guys know how it compares to APR 93.

[acidrome]

Those dyno's are a lil dated.... That was with the GIAC-S file not the current GIAC-X

[Quattro]

giac-X from what I know is meant for a test pipe and has more tweaks to accommodate the tp?

most people flash with regular giac, unless they have a test pipe then they go giac-X, right?

[Noffy]

I don't think the OP was asking which is better. he asked if any one new whether the post quote had validity.

Stop with the "go with the closes tuner to you" stick to the topic.

As far as the the topic goes.... I have know idea :) I would not doubt it though.

[acidrome]

Not exaclty..... u can still run the file with or without the testpipe.
I currently am running it with out the testpipe.
GIAC is just finishing writing their file for the fuel pump/HPFP.

here the link for the file they finished: http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=3801175

[IceMole]

giac-X from what I know is meant for a test pipe and has more tweaks to accommodate the tp?

most people flash with regular giac, unless they have a test pipe then they go giac-X, right?

It has nothing to do with test pipe.

If your vehicle is equipped with the old part number pump 06F127025B, we recommend using the Sport Flashloader chip program available for your vehicle to prevent surging issues, especially if you have an aftermarket high flow cat. GIAC has done extensive testing on multiple 2.0T vehicles and has found a correlation between surging with higher boost levels with the old pump number. If your vehicle is equipped with the new part number pump 06F127025F, you can opt for the X-Chip Flashloader file, no matter what exhaust system is used.

That's old news since it was written before they knew the specs for both pumps which are the same and they will load X on any pump.

[burn2burn]

woah, i leave for the day and a fire breaks loose....nice..just off topic. I was just asking this question because the very closest place to me that does this is right off of miramar road (Group 5 Motorsports) (I'm in San Diego) ...unfortunately they only do GIAC and they told me that this would happen. I'd just like a trial though first.

[AudiWxGuy]

They told you what would happen?

[IceMole]

A FYI GIAC offers 30 day money back, can't help you on the trial question but no tech is going to look that deep anyway or care since they don't keep track. I've read posts from audi techs that say the cars can leave the factory with upwards of 2-4+ on the flash counter, and sometimes dealer upgrades can add more then one. The real software doesn't change the counter so I'd imagine the trials are the same.