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    New wheels, PICs

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    Hi Guys,

    OK, my car is done (yeah right). I pulled the trigger on new wheels and can finally show you my car. If you like what you see, let me know. No haters please...my car is sensitive . Sorry for the poor quality shot's, but I only have a happy-snap digital camera. Vellano is scheduling a professional shoot here in Vegas (too cool), but until then...

    -Wheels-Vellano VSQ (fully forged centers and barrels)- Front 19x8.5, ET32, 2'' lip. Rear 19x8.5 ET30, 2.5" lip. 24lbs ea. Will accommodate big brake kit.

    -Tires- Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport, 245/35/19 Front & Rear. I'm sitting at 25.5" all the way around no rubbing (top fender screws removed). I'm considering another quarter inch drop though.

    -Thanks out to Harvey at Desert BMW for brokering the deal with Vellano.

    -Thanks to Brandon at Vellano for the ridiculously fast turn around (built to order) and commitment to a perfect fit! Looks soo good and the quality is like none other.

    Have a good one...Steve

























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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    mean and clean...the only way to be!
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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    I'm not easily impressed. However, I like! Just a smidge more of a drop and it's all the way there. The left side looks a little higher than the right. Measure from ground-middle fender and check it out. Congrats.
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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    There is something about them just makes me not want to like them 100%.
    I like them about 90%. I think it might how the spoke widens at the end.
    Top quality wheel though.
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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    Car looks great man!!! BTW, are those Adams Rotors? I have a set sitting in my office - just waiting on the new Hawk Pads to come in. I noticed too that the 4 on your S4 badge is lower than normal. That looks cool too.
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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    ahhh Steve! you finally got a set! we gotta meet up sometime, i'm reworking my IForged at the moment, so maybe when i get done with those...

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    Props for being original, I like the deep dish in the rear, but something about it just doesn't do it for me, still nice though!
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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    Very nice, look really good. Just paint your grills black!
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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    The car looks nice. Can't decide on what color to paint the calipers? :)
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    looks great!
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    damn thats clean. love the rear lips. gotta go lower though. car looks great
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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    Those wheels have a forged center, but the barrel is not forged. Go back and ask them (Vellano, not whoever you bought them from) and see for yourself.

    For the strongest wheel, you want a fully forged 2 or 3 piece that is NOT a machined wheel like yours. A wheel that is forged INTO its final shape by a forging die is stronger than a wheel cut from a forged billet. Forged BBS wheels are made this way.

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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    Quote Originally Posted by S4J View Post
    Hi Guys,

    OK, my car is done (yeah right). I pulled the trigger on new wheels and can finally show you my car. If you like what you see, let me know. No haters please...my car is sensitive . Sorry for the poor quality shot's, but I only have a happy-snap digital camera. Vellano is scheduling a professional shoot here in Vegas (too cool), but until then...

    -Wheels-Vellano VSQ (fully forged centers and barrels)- Front 19x8.5, ET32, 2'' lip. Rear 19x8.5 ET30, 3.5" lip. 24lbs ea. Will accommodate big brake kit.

    -Tires- Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport, 245/35/19 Front & Rear. I'm sitting at 25.5" all the way around no rubbing (top fender screws removed). I'm considering another quarter inch drop though.

    -Thanks out to Harvey at Desert BMW for brokering the deal with Vellano.

    -Thanks to Brandon at Vellano for the ridiculously fast turn around (built to order) and commitment to a perfect fit! Looks soo good and the quality is like none other.

    Have a good one...Steve

























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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    damn!! this car is clean!! looks hot

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    sorry...not feeling the wheels. the car i very very clean!!
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    I like how you color matched the bottom and top of the chrome trim on both grills.... it sort of gives the illusion of the B7 grill.... subtle and different!
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    nice touch on the grille. i always wanted to fo this but never got around to it.

    As far as the wheels and the drop, if you lower it anymore you're gonna rub in the rear. A +30 with a 245 on there is going to rub. There is no doubt about it.

    I also think that you increased your total wheel weight as your went with a wheel that is lighter but then tossed on a heavier tire. Channa is the one to chime in if this is true or not.

    Nevertheless, nice looking car and nice looking wheels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4J View Post


    nice wheels and nice pics. (don't underestimate yourself with the point and shoot!). Is it just me or does the 4 look a little low compared to the the S badge?

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    Re: New wheels, PICs

    Looks great with a perfect drop. Good job.
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    Great looking car. Nice seeing somthing different. Wheels..about 70/30 on but, I like.

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    Looks good! The car looks very clean

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    i like!
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    I like the staggered without being staggered
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    i like your plates!!!
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    Looks great!! Tags are way cool.

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    All, thanks for the compliments and feedback.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckRS4 View Post
    I'm not easily impressed. However, I like! Just a smidge more of a drop and it's all the way there. The left side looks a little higher than the right. Measure from ground-middle fender and check it out. Congrats.
    Wow, very good eye. I’m very aware of the height difference but just haven’t had the time to fix it. That’s actually the quarter inch I’m planning for the lowering, but just for the drivers side.
    Quote Originally Posted by likewater View Post
    Car looks great man!!! BTW, are those Adams Rotors? I have a set sitting in my office - just waiting on the new Hawk Pads to come in. I noticed too that the 4 on your S4 badge is lower than normal. That looks cool too.
    No, ECS 2 piece. I’m getting the rears installed this weekend. Had to wait on my Carbotech Bobcat pads. Great eye on the S4 badge. You are only the second person to notice this subtle change.
    Quote Originally Posted by yoogene83 View Post
    ahhh Steve! you finally got a set! we gotta meet up sometime, i'm reworking my IForged at the moment, so maybe when i get done with those...
    Definitely…let me know man!
    Quote Originally Posted by Tek4ever View Post
    The car looks nice. Can't decide on what color to paint the calipers? :)
    Gawd I know. Way ugly now and obvious. Probably silver.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuffler View Post
    Those wheels have a forged center, but the barrel is not forged. Go back and ask them (Vellano, not whoever you bought them from) and see for yourself.

    For the strongest wheel, you want a fully forged 2 or 3 piece that is NOT a machined wheel like yours. A wheel that is forged INTO its final shape by a forging die is stronger than a wheel cut from a forged billet. Forged BBS wheels are made this way.
    Oh...OK, whatever
    Quote Originally Posted by wkornfeld View Post
    This is going to sound f'd up but kinda funny. I know exactly where you're taking the pictures of your car... Reason: I was watching an episode of cops where some guy stole this girls purse and ran off. He took out her credit cards and dropped the wallet in the planter right behind your car. They found him on the sidewalk which you were probably standing on and they drove up the sidewalk with like four cars at about 45 mph! Sweet pix yo! lmao
    Lol, sweet...infamous shooting location!
    Quote Originally Posted by quattroanillos5 View Post
    I like how you color matched the bottom and top of the chrome trim on both grills.... it sort of gives the illusion of the B7 grill.... subtle and different!
    Another good eye. I did this a few years ago and posted on here and on AW, but didn't get much feedback. As far as I'm aware, no one else has done this for some reason. I like it though...thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by RAudi Driver View Post
    nice touch on the grille. i always wanted to fo this but never got around to it.

    As far as the wheels and the drop, if you lower it anymore you're gonna rub in the rear. A +30 with a 245 on there is going to rub. There is no doubt about it.

    I also think that you increased your total wheel weight as your went with a wheel that is lighter but then tossed on a heavier tire. Channa is the one to chime in if this is true or not.

    Nevertheless, nice looking car and nice looking wheels!
    You may be right about the rubbing, but I hope you’re wrong...I'll let you know. As noted above, I'm already a quarter inch lower on the right side and no rubbing. As for the tire weight, the Bridgestone weighs 27lbs vs Michelin Pilot Sport 2s at 24lbs. I mulled this over a lot before buying. The PS2s are $140 more per tire...worth the $560 difference for the set? Maybe. I got the RE760s at Tireworks for $200 a piece. Also, I installed ECS Tuning lightweight rotors. The fronts saved me 10 lbs per side. Once I install the rears, I'll drop another 2 whole lbs. :) A loss of 22lbs of unsprung, rotational mass. Add in the total wheel weight loss of 12lbs, I'm at 32 pounds. My new wheels weight 12lbs less total. I've now got 44lbs to play with. Tireworks here also offers a 30 day drive and return policy. If you don't like a tire, you can get a different set, full refund on old set.

    Stock wheel- 27lbs x 4 = 108lbs, Vellano- 24lbs x 4 = 96lbs
    Stock front rotor- 25lbs x 2 = 50lbs, ECS- 15lbs x 2 = 30lbs
    Stock rear rotor- 13lbs x 2 = 26lbs, ECS- 12lbs x 2 = 24lbs
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    Stock Total = 184lbs Now = 150lbs
    Difference of 34lbs

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    holy SH**, look at that reply! That's gotta be the most thorough reply ever. S4J, it looks like you really did your homework, nice going. Just to let you know, the PS2's are worth every extra penny. That's the only tire that I use. It is, really, the best tire out there, period.

    I say that you are going to rub becuase I just got out of an S4 that had 19 x 8.5 +32 and was running 245's, front fender bolts removed and I still rubbed a tiny bit in the front and the rear. I stiffened up my suspension and that totally solved the problem, but once in a blue moon it would touch.

    I see that you are running the same suspension that I ran. I had my car set to 2F, 3R. I know that it sounds like it'll make the car understeer more than it already does but for some reason, the PSS9's feel more balanced when the front is a notch or two stiffer than the rears. Whatever you have the car set to, make the fronts one click stiffer and it'll feel more balanced going over the large highway dips.

    Also, make your next set of tires PS2's. You'll never go back!

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    Nice! Good job with all the weight loss.

    Just letting you know it's only a difference of 34lbs, not 44. You got a typo adding up your rear rotor weight.



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    One of the best looking B6's that I've seen. (Clapping) Well done sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAudi Driver View Post
    holy SH**, look at that reply! That's gotta be the most thorough reply ever. S4J, it looks like you really did your homework, nice going. Just to let you know, the PS2's are worth every extra penny. That's the only tire that I use. It is, really, the best tire out there, period.

    I say that you are going to rub becuase I just got out of an S4 that had 19 x 8.5 +32 and was running 245's, front fender bolts removed and I still rubbed a tiny bit in the front and the rear. I stiffened up my suspension and that totally solved the problem, but once in a blue moon it would touch.

    I see that you are running the same suspension that I ran. I had my car set to 2F, 3R. I know that it sounds like it'll make the car understeer more than it already does but for some reason, the PSS9's feel more balanced when the front is a notch or two stiffer than the rears. Whatever you have the car set to, make the fronts one click stiffer and it'll feel more balanced going over the large highway dips.

    Also, make your next set of tires PS2's. You'll never go back!
    Thanks
    Oh I my go back right away. I run PS2s on my stockers and they are definitely the best I've owned. Just giving the RE760s a fair shake. I'm running 4 all the way around on my PSS9s. I'll bump the fronts up to 3 and see how it feels.

    Quote Originally Posted by VR2V8 View Post
    Nice! Good job with all the weight loss.

    Just letting you know it's only a difference of 34lbs, not 44. You got a typo adding up your rear rotor weight.



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