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  1. 06-05-2008 07:43 AM #1
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    Question ko4 program question about apr 1+

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    i am getting my car back tomorrow with my manifold, tp, and ko4 installed. i will drive the car up to NGP saturday to get the apr ko4 program installed but before then i will be running the ko4 on the 1+ program. is this ok, i dont want to screw something up. it is a 2 hour drive to the shop. should i not boost it till the programming is done?
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  2. 06-05-2008 08:24 AM #2
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    No personal experience but I've come across threads where people say they are running the K04 on the K03 software without harming anything. It just doesn't operate at peak.
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  3. 06-05-2008 08:35 AM #3
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    yeah but 1+ has some high boost so i was concerned...i think i may just take it easy till then (sucks)
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  4. 06-05-2008 08:57 AM #4
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    It will spike pretty high (27psi or so) with the 1+ software, just take it easy on the boost until you get it flashed
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    OK, THANKS. what's the boost on the ko4 program from apr...i looked on their site but saw no charts for it.
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    stay off the boost. switch it to stock mode if you want to be safe.
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    how much more power do you typically see going from the 1+ to the k04 + software? Is it worth the money?
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  8. 06-05-2008 09:22 AM #8
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    with a turbo upgrade, yes it is worth it.
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  9. 06-05-2008 09:31 AM #9
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    Quote Originally Posted by b6onboost View Post
    stay off the boost. switch it to stock mode if you want to be safe.
    i ran 1+ all the way from CT to Maryland i kept it in stock mode. If you stay out of boost you will be fine.
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    ok, thanks guys. how do you switch to stock mode again...never done it.
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    Where you supplied with the stock program?
    Its done by holding down the cruise control for a number of seconds and the number of times the CEL flashes per second is related to a certain program (ie in my case one flash per second is Stock mode, two is 93, 3 is vallet and 4 is 100 octane). Your Apr dealer should of shown you this, its quite easy.
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    unless he didn't get the "stock" program
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  14. 06-05-2008 01:40 PM #13
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    cool thanks, i just found the paperwork on it. yes i do have the stock program as well.

    thanks guys.
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    Make sure you dont WOT! If you do, you might put the car into limp mode heeh
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    when you get it flashed please post up.... i'm curious to see if there's a big noticeable power gain over k03 1+
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    i thought there was. but it was all low end tq. honestly i kinda miss it, the GTRS doesn't have that kick you in the back seat feeling.
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    Re: ko4 program question about apr 1+

    yeah i talked to the NGP Racing (the ones doing the software) and they said leave it in 93 +1 and not to get on it. they said it is less likely to get into limp than stock.

    Phantomb6 i will repost and let you know the outcome but i only had the 1+ for about and hour before i got a cel and oil pressure light came on (the sludge problem) and had to get it home gingerly. so no real feel for it from the stage 1 program i just had upgraded that day. also, i had a test pipe, and a turbo manifold installed with the turbo so it isnt a fair assesment sorry.
    2002 A4 Quattro 5-speed, KO4, SPP Ported/Polished Turbo Manifold, ATP test pipe, APR ko4 tuning, APR injectors, APR R1 DV, Front mount intercooler, H&R sport springs/Bilstein sport shocks, Neuspeed snubber mount K&N, Blackedout grille, Badgeless rear.

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