Spacers

[Squarrl]

How big a spacer would u need to run, I am lowered to 25.25inches all around.

VMR VB3 which are 18x8 et 40 and 255 35 18 tyres?
looking to buy these used that is why tyres are so wide

Are there negative aspects in running spacers?

[Ewok_Fetus]

You should really be measuring the distance from middle of wheel to the fender... Ground to fender can be misleading due to current tire sizes and pressures...

[jm121189]

I would pass and get something with smaller tires. I think when you run big spacers it puts extra stress on parts of the suspension but don't quote me on that.

[317ssayzarc]

I would pass and get something with smaller tires. I think when you run big spacers it puts extra stress on parts of the suspension but don't quote me on that.

im going to anyways lol

how so? that would mean wheels with a higher offset would do the same... all spacers do is effectively change the offset of the wheel, theres nothing wrong with a good quality spacer

[Poopie]

as long as they are hub centric there are no issues. Cheap ebay ones can wobble if they are not centered.

I'm already impressed you don't rub with current set up as it is.

[317ssayzarc]

maybe hes tucking depending on the width of his current setup... i know my golf at 24.7 is fine since the tires tuck about a half inch

[Squarrl]

right now i have oem Celebration RS4 rims which are bent to shit. they are 225 45 17 and the rims i think are et 45. they do not rub.

[bassed]

right now i have oem Celebration RS4 rims which are bent to shit. they are 225 45 17 and the rims i think are et 45. they do not rub.

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Those are et 42 iirc from my set, I run 8mm H&R spacers in the rear and none up front with my 17X8 OZ UL's and I rub a bit. I've not had the Celeb's on in about 2 months with the setup as it sits today.

[Squarrl]

what is the tyre width on your OZ?

[b5a4gt28]

i have 2 sets of brand new h and r 10mm spacers if you want...

[VMRSport]

Unless if you are rubbing on your strut or inner fender area, a spacer is not going to help you with getting those wheels to fit. Just making sure you are on the right track, as far as how spacers work, etc.

If you are rubbing on the outside fender lip of your car, a spacer would only make it rub even more, since it is pushing the wheel out further.

[Squarrl]

I am not going to bother with them going to get them new from VRM in a month or so just saw them in classifieds but no worky :(

[Nebone]

How can I tell if a spacer is hub centric?

[Ewok_Fetus]

How can I tell if a spacer is hub centric?

Because it has a large knub sticking out of it... Most spacers are flat... If you set it down and look in the middle to where it looks like a volcano, then it is hubcentric...

[noobtuner]

like these if i'm not mistaken
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi/?imageID=3947&html=viewimage.html

[onemoremile]

These are hubcentric.
http://www.midland-ferrari.co.uk/edi...ype1spacer.jpg

Spacers or wider wheels also change the scrub radius but that hasn't been much of a real world problem. Most people here are way too low to care about handling anyway.

[Nebone]

I have a set of H&R 8mm spacers. They don't look hubcentric but have a taper on the inner diameter. When I get some longer bolts I will try them out in the rear. My wheels ET43 or 45.

[onemoremile]

I have a set of H&R 8mm spacers. They don't look hubcentric but have a taper on the inner diameter. When I get some longer bolts I will try them out in the rear. My wheels ET43 or 45.

Hold a spacer to the inside of the wheel and turn until the lug holes line up. If it centers itself it is hubcentric. If it can be moved around it isn't.

[GillzAudi]

THe wheels I have right now rub the top control arm. I think they need a significant amount of space before they will fit. A local tire shop I went to didn't recommend spacers at all. Can they really do that much harm to the wheel or suspension?

-Also, what does ET mean? ex. ET30, ET40

[Silverstreak98]

I have these wheels and they rub in the back and I'm not lowered yet.

Any opinions on what size spacers would be needed for the rear, I will probably be close to 25.5"-25".

Would spacers be needed in the front after it is lowered?

[onemoremile]

THe wheels I have right now rub the top control arm. I think they need a significant amount of space before they will fit. A local tire shop I went to didn't recommend spacers at all. Can they really do that much harm to the wheel or suspension?

Spacers do put more load on the wheel bearing but it isn't usually enough to worry about unless it is an extreme case. They also move the center of the tire which changes scrub radius but again, that doesn't seem to change much in the real world.

I'd run a 255/35-18 on my Avant. My next summer tires will be between a 255/35-18 and a 275/35-18. At the very least they will be a 255/40-17.

[VMRWheels]

The ONLY vehicle i would recommend using a 255 safely is on an A6. 255 is way too wide for a normal A4. A spacer will only make you rub more since it pushes it out towards the fender more, virtually lowering the offset from a +40 to a +35 if you use a 5mm spacer.

As for hub centric spacers. They will have a lip coming out that is 57.1 for your Audi. So the spacer will sit hub centric on the hub and hub centric on the wheel.

-Charles@VMRWheels
www.vmrwheels.com

[Silverstreak98]

Sent you a PM VMR

[Squarrl]

These are hubcentric.
http://www.midland-ferrari.co.uk/edi...ype1spacer.jpg

Spacers or wider wheels also change the scrub radius but that hasn't been much of a real world problem. Most people here are way too low to care about handling anyway.

what is way too low?

[Silverstreak98]

Turns out the VB3's will fit with a smaller width tire of 225/40-18.

Big thanks to VMRWheels for helping me out as well!

[macgyver681]

An alternative to $$$ hubcentric spacers is to get the plastic hubcentric rings that fit your rims and regular spacers. I went a step further and centered the spacers on my rims and epoxyed them in place to eliminate any chance of wobble.
I am currently running staggered 18s with 255s in the rear w/10mm spacers. Yeah they rub even with stiff coilovers. But they don't vibrate or wobble at all.

[VMRWheels]

An alternative to $$$ hubcentric spacers is to get the plastic hubcentric rings that fit your rims and regular spacers. I went a step further and centered the spacers on my rims and epoxyed them in place to eliminate any chance of wobble.
I am currently running staggered 18s with 255s in the rear w/10mm spacers. Yeah they rub even with stiff coilovers. But they don't vibrate or wobble at all.

That could be an alternative, but some people may not like the idea of using epoxy on there nice expensive Audi's and rather spend the money and do it correctly the 1st time around.

-Charles@VMRWheels
www.vmrwheels.com

[onemoremile]

what is way too low?

Pretty much most race springs or coilovers dialed down to a zero gap. About a 1 finger gap is perfect. Most sport springs are just right.

Much lower and the roll couple is increased and the body roll increases. This puts the tire into the fender. Get the car back up a bit and not only do you have much more static clearance you also have less body roll. On stock sport suspension with rolled fenders I had no rubbing from a set of 245/40-17. Same goes for 235/45-17 which are taller and almost as wide.

[Squarrl]

ah i have at least a one finger gap, I thought anything lower then 25inches fender to ground would put the suspension geometry out of wack. I went 25 1/4 inches

onemoremile check your pm