Couple Meth/Water Injection questions

[manhertm]

First of my engine is stock. I been reading up on the Boost Cooler kit.
1. Does Meth/Water increase gas mileage?
2. Can this system be run constantly(daily driving)?
3. Would I need to adjust my ECU to run this system?

PS. I'm not really looking into a Meth/Water injection system, but rather an HHO(Hydrogen) conversion kit.

[Grenade]

First of my engine is stock. I been reading up on the Boost Cooler kit.
1. Does Meth/Water increase gas mileage?
2. Can this system be run constantly(daily driving)?
3. Would I need to adjust my ECU to run this system?

PS. I'm not really looking into a Meth/Water injection system, but rather an HHO(Hydrogen) conversion kit.

1. Maybe, but that's not the reason.
2. They should only be used under boost
3. ECU will need to be adjusted. Timing, Afr's, ect.

4. Skip it.

I also see your on an ebay budget. Well, if that's the mentality you take for WI, you will be buying a new engine.

[manhertm]

1. Maybe, but that's not the reason.
2. They should only be used under boost
3. ECU will need to be adjusted. Timing, Afr's, ect.

4. Skip it.

I also see your on an ebay budget. Well, if that's the mentality you take for WI, you will be buying a new engine.

Meh, I guess, I'll never know until I blow it up.

[AudiA4_20T]

1. yes
2. yes
3. no

as an added bonus, its awesome

[manhertm]

Fuck it, I gonna let you guys in on what my girlfriend said I can try on her car.
http://www.vadaenergy.com/products/03packages.html
If this kit does work, one is going on the B6. Been reading up a lot on this and technology is getting a lot better for these kits.

[AudiA4_20T]

Fuck it, I gonna let you guys in on what my girlfriend said I can try on her car.
http://www.vadaenergy.com/products/03packages.html
If this kit does work, one is going on the B6. Been reading up a lot on this and technology is getting a lot better for these kits.

wtf is that? and u think that fuel controller is going to work on a B6 ECU? It seems like it is like a meth injection?

[manhertm]

Here's simplified layout of how the system will go in. It basically uses an electrolyte mixture of water and the cell separates the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules into gas, which is then connect via a hose to the intake.


My girlfriend has 02 Mercury Cougar, so I dunno.

[AudiA4_20T]

so it just puts straight water in? Water meth would be a better option?

[manhertm]

The air/fuel ratio can be adjusted via software right?

[manhertm]

so it just puts straight water in? Water meth would be a better option?

No, I don't think water i even injected. It converts the water from the fuel cell into gas. Then it is pumped into the intake.

[AudiA4_20T]

No, I don't think water i even injected. It converts the water from the fuel cell into gas. Then it is pumped into the intake.

ah so the hydrogen (an explosive gas) is injected right into the engine? I would imagine thats not too safe but it says it is well see

[manhertm]

Well, I've been a huge skeptic of this for a while(2.5 years to be exact). I've been checking out Youtube vids on the subject and the question is not whether it works ,but more how to regulate the system. Vadaenergy's kit is the first comphresion package, I've seen for this. Usually other websites have instructions on putting togther a fuel cell from scratch.

[AudiA4_20T]

Well, I've been a huge skeptic of this for a while(2.5 years to be exact). I've been checking out Youtube vids on the subject and the question is not whether it works ,but more how to regulate the system. Vadaenergy's kit is the first comphresion package, I've seen for this. Usually other websites have instructions on putting togther a fuel cell from scratch.

why wouldnt water/meth be the same tho? i mean its a combustable mix being shot into the engine

[manhertm]

why wouldnt water/meth be the same tho? i mean its a combustable mix being shot into the engine

That was kind of what I was trying to find out in the original questions. The major difference is the fact with the HHO system, its gas and not a mist, so I guess it burns more completely. I don't know how hydrogen compares with methanol as far as being combustible. I think the fuel controller in the VADAEnergy kits connects to the O2 sensor to lean out the engine when the hydrogen gas is being injected. Thats where the increase mileage comes in.

[manhertm]

Here's couple vids what's gonna happen.
The first is from Mythbuster's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydEkV-E0mP8
The other two are just two guys with they're own homemade system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EBml...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGhZ...eature=related

[AudiBama]

Here's simplified layout of how the system will go in. It basically uses an electrolyte mixture of water and the cell separates the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules into gas, which is then connect via a hose to the intake.


My girlfriend has 02 Mercury Cougar, so I dunno.

yeah....uhh thats not going to make NEARLY enough hydrogen to power an engine...ahem ahem MYTHBUSTERS.

[manhertm]

yeah....uhh thats not going to make NEARLY enough hydrogen to power an engine...ahem ahem MYTHBUSTERS.

Did you check the Youtube vids I posted, with said Mythbusters vid.

[AudiA4_20T]

yo I say you do this, it sounds badass

[evola4]

ah so the hydrogen (an explosive gas) is injected right into the engine? I would imagine thats not too safe but it says it is well see

Wasn't the Hindenberg made of Hydrogen? That worked out pretty well. Has this thing been proven on any amount of different vehicles? Has it been tested enough to know that it won't cause damage to the car?

[manhertm]

Wasn't the Hindenberg made of Hydrogen? That worked out pretty well. Has this thing been proven on any amount of different vehicles? Has it been tested enough to know that it won't cause damage to the car?

It was made with an incendiary paint and check youtube for some proof. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I have enough confidence along with VAG-COM logs to try.

[nihil]

To be honest, I don't have high hopes for this, but I am very interested to see your results.

[A4ringedONE8T]

why wouldnt water/meth be the same tho? i mean its a combustable mix being shot into the engine

Water/meth is not combustible

[A4ringedONE8T]

The air/fuel ratio can be adjusted via software right?

With a standalone, not with standard software

[manhertm]

With a standalone, not with standard software

Is there another way to lean the system out.